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Sara Morrison v BFF - thread 6

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SexRealismBeliefs · 26/11/2025 16:11

Sara Morrison v Belfast Film Festival - Employment Tribunal that took place on 10th to 21st November 2025.

It was live tweeted by Nick Wallis. Tribunal Tweets weren't allowed remote access, and no remote viewing was possible.

Background here:

https://genderblog.net/sara-morrison-v-belfast-film-festival/

Sara Morrison v Belfast Film Festival

Sara Morrison Sara Morrison used to be an inclusion and audience development co-ordinator working full time at Belfast Film Festival. She has an adult, trans-dentifying son. But she is a heretic. B…

https://genderblog.net/sara-morrison-v-belfast-film-festival/

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KittyWilkinson · 18/07/2026 18:22

The question for the tribunal is whether the treatment complained of occurred because of the claimant's political opinion or because of concerns arising from the perceived impact of the public controversy upon the respondent organisation and the claimant's role within it.

Well it's not a political opinion to say that people can't change sex. It's a biological fact. So that's a red biro line.

These judges need to realise that they are only presiding over first instance tribunals. They may think it makes them Very Important while they fuck around with people's lives. In legal circles, they are just small potatoes, as my Nan used to say. I hope that she appeals, but it's a hell of a strain I realise.

SexRealismBeliefs · 18/07/2026 18:23

This is the key finding

  1. While the tribunal has made individual conclusions on each act relied upon, the tribunal also has considered the matters cumulatively. The tribunal has not treated the individual rejection of each allegation as determinative of the cumulative case. It has considered whether the total course of conduct, including the public statement, stakeholder communications, investigation, systems-access failures, sickness-pay position, removal from the programme, grievance process and delay, cumulatively amounted to conduct calculated or likely seriously to damage or destroy mutual trust and confidence.

This is what I would struggle with - all these things all went against Sara and together they were fine???

  1. Viewed cumulatively, the tribunal accepts that these matters would reasonably have caused the claimant considerable distress and may have contributed to her perception that the respondent was not adequately supporting her. However, the tribunal finds that the respondent's actions were largely directed towards addressing stakeholder concerns, maintaining organisational operations and responding to issues which had arisen unexpectedly within a very small organisation. While certain aspects of the respondent's conduct were imperfect, the tribunal is not satisfied that, either individually or cumulatively, the respondent acted without reasonable and proper cause or conducted itself in a manner likely to destroy or seriously damage trust and confidence.
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SexRealismBeliefs · 18/07/2026 18:25

KittyWilkinson · 18/07/2026 18:22

The question for the tribunal is whether the treatment complained of occurred because of the claimant's political opinion or because of concerns arising from the perceived impact of the public controversy upon the respondent organisation and the claimant's role within it.

Well it's not a political opinion to say that people can't change sex. It's a biological fact. So that's a red biro line.

These judges need to realise that they are only presiding over first instance tribunals. They may think it makes them Very Important while they fuck around with people's lives. In legal circles, they are just small potatoes, as my Nan used to say. I hope that she appeals, but it's a hell of a strain I realise.

To be fair it’s different legislation in NI - so religious or political opinion is an equivalent of belief per Forstater.

The one positive is that sex realist beliefs are accepted in law in NI and this case accepts they’re valid.

First time it’s been tested here.

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CriticalCondition · 18/07/2026 18:34

Awful news. Reading back over NW's account of panel member 'Professor' Boyd's recusal reminds me what Sara was up against. I hope she can find grounds and the strength to appeal.

Boiledbeetle · 18/07/2026 18:34

Poor Sara.

Any of us who followed the tribunal will not be the slightest bit surprised by the judge's decision.

I hope Sara appeals, but totally understand if she thinks fuck that.

SexRealismBeliefs · 18/07/2026 18:35

Not one mention (apart from being listed as witness) from Dr Laurence McKeown -

https://www.facebook.com/laurence.mckeown.9

Either he was too controversial or too underwhelming….

No problem him being pro Palestine and attending rally’s - and being a convict.

That’s all on the right side of the West Belfast Film Festival.

Laurence McKeown

Laurence McKeown. 8,090 likes · 15 talking about this. “Let’s be realistic and attempt the impossible,” Ché Guevara

https://www.facebook.com/laurence.mckeown.9

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icingonmycupcake · 18/07/2026 18:37

Oh that's 💩

Not surprised though. It's Ireland. 🙄

She should appeal if she can. On the advice of counsel of course.

RhannionKPSS · 18/07/2026 18:41

I’m sorry to see this Sara, I hope you know you have legions of women beside you if you want to appeal

GirlsInGreen · 18/07/2026 19:12

Gutted for Sara, a woman who has lost more than most to this fuckery.

ProfLargofesse · 18/07/2026 19:44

I can’t near to read the judgment because it couldn't have been any more obvious they conspired to sack her because of her beliefs. Although i think we knew this was the destination from the off. I also think the j was going to enact her revenge for the humiliation of fake prof being outed.

prh47bridge · 18/07/2026 19:47

fanOfBen · 18/07/2026 17:47

Hmm. Calling lawyers: was this really "the question for the Tribunal"? Doesn't this open the door to "oh, we're not prejudiced, it's just that our customers are, so we have no choice but to avoid employing black people" and the like?

93. The tribunal has considered whether the claimant was treated less favourably than the hypothetical comparator identified at paragraph 68, namely an employee occupying the same role as the claimant whose circumstances were the same or not materially different save that they did not hold the claimant's political opinion. The tribunal accepts that the email arose directly from the claimant's public speech and the views expressed within it. The question for the tribunal is whether the treatment complained of occurred because of the claimant's political opinion or because of concerns arising from the perceived impact of the public controversy upon the respondent organisation and the claimant's role within it.
94. The tribunal finds that a hypothetical employee occupying the position of Inclusion and Diversity Officer who had publicly expressed a different political opinion, but whose public comments had generated a similar level of concern among stakeholders and Board members regarding the organisation's reputation, stakeholder relationships and confidence in the employee's ability to fulfil the role, would have been likely to attract similar discussion. In particular, the tribunal finds that consideration would similarly have been given to whether that employee should continue to participate in a specific project pending resolution of the matter. The tribunal is satisfied that the focus of the email was not the claimant's political opinion as such but the perceived consequences arising from the public controversy and its potential impact upon the organisation.

I'm not an expert on Northern Ireland law and I have not read the whole judgement, but these two paragraphs on their own seem highly problematic to me.

The tribunal has (rightly in my view) rejected BFF's suggestion that their MD was a suitable comparator and have invented their own. As far as I can see, their conclusion that their chosen hypothetical comparator would have been treated in the same way is a conclusion without evidence. That is straight away cause for appeal. It was for BFF to rebut the suggestion that a valid comparator would have been treated differently. By choosing an inappropriate comparator, they failed to do so. In my view, that means the tribunal should have concluded that a hypothetical comparator would indeed have been treated differently. And, of course, this part of the judgement falls apart completely if Sara or her team can identify someone at BFF who made a speech expressing political views and no action was taken when stakeholders expressed concern.

The suggestion that BFF can take action because stakeholders are concerned is troubling. It is tantamount to saying that their stakeholders can determine which political views are acceptable for employees.

The tribunal concludes that the focus of the email was not on Sara's opinions but the perceived consequences. That appears perverse given what the email actually said. "We can’t have an Inclusion/Diversity Officer who, many weeks after making such an ill-advised speech, still stands by her actions completely” reads like a clear call for Sara to be dismissed or, at the very least, forced to withdraw her opinions.

These paragraphs appear to ignore the well-established principle that employees have the right to express their protected beliefs and take part in peaceful political activity in their own time. As far as I am aware, Sara did not claim to be speaking for BFF, nor did she identify herself as a BFF employee. BFF may, possibly, have been able to remove her from a specific project if her views impacted on that project in some way (e.g. if she expressed anti-abortion views and the project was related to abortion clinics), but their actions appear to me to clearly overstep the mark.

My view is that these two paragraphs on their own give multiple causes for appeal. I hope she appeals and wins. It is clear that far too many ETs are captured and need to learn to apply the law, not what GI activists say the law is.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 18/07/2026 19:48

Poor Sara

I hope she appeals , this was the most egregious example of "we made up our minds before we even started" I've seen

but understand if she doesn't want to after all she's been through

IonianNerveGrip · 18/07/2026 21:42

The suggestion that BFF can take action because stakeholders are concerned is troubling. It is tantamount to saying that their stakeholders can determine which political views are acceptable for employees.

Also my interpretation.

SexRealismBeliefs · 18/07/2026 21:49

IonianNerveGrip · 18/07/2026 21:42

The suggestion that BFF can take action because stakeholders are concerned is troubling. It is tantamount to saying that their stakeholders can determine which political views are acceptable for employees.

Also my interpretation.

What makes this worse is outburst had not connection and could not be considered stakeholders of BFF.

No collaboration or work together. Because Michele Devlin had a relationship with Ruth McCarthy of Outburst arts partner and therefore there was no way they’d work together.

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SternJoyousBeev2 · 18/07/2026 21:53

Boiledbeetle · 18/07/2026 18:34

Poor Sara.

Any of us who followed the tribunal will not be the slightest bit surprised by the judge's decision.

I hope Sara appeals, but totally understand if she thinks fuck that.

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Sadly, I was expecting this decision. I don’t pretend to know anything about the political landscape in N Ireland but the impression I got was that this was going to go against Sara no matter what evidence was presented.

NebulousSupportPostcard · 18/07/2026 22:50

So sorry, Sara xxxx

Grim reading. 71/2 months for this rubbish.

IwantToRetire · 19/07/2026 01:38

Have only just seen this.

Just terrible.

... The judgment, published on Friday, found that after Morrison's speech at the rally "a number of external organisations raised concerns" related to "the claimant's participation in the rally and its perceived incompatibility with her role as inclusion/audience development co-ordinator". ...

The judgment stated: "The tribunal therefore concludes that [Morrison's] political opinion was not the reason, nor any part of the reason, for the treatment complained of."

If the second statement is correct then they are saying her politics make her incompatibility with here role. Which is confirmed by there being complaints. Saying that participating in a LWS is inconpatible with inclusion / audience development. Not only finding her at fault, but basically saying anyone who attends a FWA event is not someone they want at the BFF. How else can they claim they are incompatible, rather than encouraging a diverse audience.

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 19/07/2026 06:02

The tribunal was a shitshow from start to finish. I am angered and disappointed for Sara but not surprised at the outcome.

FFS nearly 8 months and the chair can’t even get the legal reps the right way round on the first page 🤬

#IStillStandWithSaraMorrison

impossibletoday · 19/07/2026 13:15

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Sara Morrison v BFF - thread 6
AnnWMurphy · 19/07/2026 13:46

There are commenters on the Northern Ireland reddit badmouthing her and making potentially libellous statements. Possibly legal action required here as well?

https://archive.today/IgXCj

AnnWMurphy · 19/07/2026 13:47

Sorry wrong link I meant to link to the archived thread itself

https://archive.today/1QHY0

Veilsofmorning · 19/07/2026 15:44

ProfLargofesse · 18/07/2026 19:44

I can’t near to read the judgment because it couldn't have been any more obvious they conspired to sack her because of her beliefs. Although i think we knew this was the destination from the off. I also think the j was going to enact her revenge for the humiliation of fake prof being outed.

Absolutely agree!