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PachacutisBadAuntie · 20/11/2025 17:50

SeniorWranglerStanfreyPock · 20/11/2025 17:31

@Scout2016 Had league of gentlemen in my head all day with this talk of what gets funded...specifically Legz Akimbo and Issues

All these arts organisations were reminding me of something and of course, there it is the wonderful Legz Akimbo 😆

Just started rewatching this and it's quite startling that the deliberate taboo breaking is, if anything, more relevant 25 years on. I'd forgotten how diverse the casting was as well.

similarminimer · 20/11/2025 18:10

I think Nick Wallis says it was the judge who asked how many employees. And I presumed the answer 3 was a bit undermining for CE, as she had been trying to show that none of the many other employees had ever bewn put on sickleave and so there was worse treatment.

However if CE asked it must have been for another reason

SexRealistic · 20/11/2025 18:36

similarminimer · 20/11/2025 18:10

I think Nick Wallis says it was the judge who asked how many employees. And I presumed the answer 3 was a bit undermining for CE, as she had been trying to show that none of the many other employees had ever bewn put on sickleave and so there was worse treatment.

However if CE asked it must have been for another reason

No shade on earlier poster - but checking NW it was the Judge who asked how many.

J how many employees did you administer
ML three
CE no further qs
SD no re-ex

OP posts:
Scout2016 · 20/11/2025 18:39

SeniorWranglerStanfreyPock · 20/11/2025 17:31

@Scout2016 Had league of gentlemen in my head all day with this talk of what gets funded...specifically Legz Akimbo and Issues

All these arts organisations were reminding me of something and of course, there it is the wonderful Legz Akimbo 😆

Maybe they could do a remix but with "Concern, Conceeerning" instead of "Issues, Issssuuuuues"

She was seen with Posie P
>Issues
>Concerning

We got complaints, as many as three
>Concern
>Concerning

Send her off sick and take her key
>Issues
>Concerning

Poor oppressed Babs only wants to pee
>Issues
>CONCERNS...(Jazz hands)

You get the idea

ProfessorScorchedTerf · 20/11/2025 19:00

SexRealistic · 19/11/2025 19:31

Its not that they get paid to be on the board (although it appears to be a company rather than a charity so they might) - its that their stooge Michele (they've all worked together for 20 years) will create events where they get to show their movies, drink wine and have parties funded by the tax payer. They are then amplified and connected and likely get grants from tax payer. They then get press, get amplified and so on. Heck they even get on the BIGLY SCREEN.

https://www.blackboxbelfast.com/event/belfast-film-festival-presents-undisclosed-mark-cousins-project/

There are loads of examples - but this is one.

You can see why the likes of Rory Stewart started to squeak when Elon musk and DOGE started to cut the funding for all these projects

Londonmummy66 · 20/11/2025 19:15

SexRealistic · 20/11/2025 17:14

Ms Elves - Times Lawyer of the Week

archive.ph/kSgqU

Thank you - loved this Q&A

What is the best advice you have received?
Pay attention to what people don’t say and what’s not there.

Wonder who might have given her that piece of advice.....

SternlyMatthews · 20/11/2025 19:31

SexRealistic · 20/11/2025 17:14

Ms Elves - Times Lawyer of the Week

archive.ph/kSgqU

Its a pity the article doesnt mention it, but she is Dr Elves (DPhil in Law, Oxford).

This is to give credit where it is due, as this thread has a sharp focus on academic titles.

Justabaker · 20/11/2025 19:46

ANewCreation · 20/11/2025 16:10

Oh, that one is easy.
You can never have too many Yorkshires on offer!

My two grown sons, plus two of their mates said they could eat as many Yorkshires as I could cook at one time provided they had gravy.

I made 72 yorkshires (borrowed a couple of tins) and made 4 litres of gravy.

They won. Ate every last one. And a few slices of bread to sop up the extra gravy.

ProfessorBoiledbeetle · 20/11/2025 20:21

Justabaker · 20/11/2025 19:46

My two grown sons, plus two of their mates said they could eat as many Yorkshires as I could cook at one time provided they had gravy.

I made 72 yorkshires (borrowed a couple of tins) and made 4 litres of gravy.

They won. Ate every last one. And a few slices of bread to sop up the extra gravy.

72? Each or between them?

Lightweights either way!

ProfessorStlcakethereforeIam · 20/11/2025 20:39

Justabaker · 20/11/2025 19:46

My two grown sons, plus two of their mates said they could eat as many Yorkshires as I could cook at one time provided they had gravy.

I made 72 yorkshires (borrowed a couple of tins) and made 4 litres of gravy.

They won. Ate every last one. And a few slices of bread to sop up the extra gravy.

😁 have a Michellin star!

DarkNovemberBringsTheFog · 20/11/2025 20:50

ProfessorEmeritaVeraAtkins · 20/11/2025 08:14

Turns out Blackadder was talking about Ape Creatures - I always heard it as eight creatures because that was the background knowledge I had when watching Blackadder. Every day is a school day. But there really are EIGHT creatures of the Indus, as well as ape creatures.

Then Blackadder was being ingenious and using a - I can’t think of the word, not quite double meaning or pun, but something along those lines.

Excellent! Thank you for enlightening me.

SternlyMatthews · 20/11/2025 20:51

ProfessorBoiledbeetle · 20/11/2025 20:21

72? Each or between them?

Lightweights either way!

not sure that diet would make them lightweights!

SternlyMatthews · 20/11/2025 20:53

Londonmummy66 · 20/11/2025 19:15

Thank you - loved this Q&A

What is the best advice you have received?
Pay attention to what people don’t say and what’s not there.

Wonder who might have given her that piece of advice.....

Could have come from Sherlock Holmes, with curious incident of the dog in the night.
(It didnt bark)

SeniorWranglerStanfreyPock · 20/11/2025 20:58

Justabaker · 20/11/2025 19:46

My two grown sons, plus two of their mates said they could eat as many Yorkshires as I could cook at one time provided they had gravy.

I made 72 yorkshires (borrowed a couple of tins) and made 4 litres of gravy.

They won. Ate every last one. And a few slices of bread to sop up the extra gravy.

Oooof, it's the four litres of gravy that amazes me - I can never make enough!

It takes me back to childhood when we ate Yorkshires for Sunday dinner the old fashioned way, made in one big tin and as a starter just with gravy and a kind of onion & vinegar dressing my mum would put together. My favourite bit was the thick soggy bit of Yorkshire from the middle of the tin as it soaked up the most gravy.

Apologies in advance to any thread police watching...

KnottyAuty · 20/11/2025 21:01

SternlyMatthews · 20/11/2025 11:33

I used a search facilty which accepts natural language queries & delivers useful but not always reliable results (the Copilot AI/LLM).
Asking: 'The Cambridge English department was torn apart by Structuralism/Post-Structuralism?' brought up Colin McCabe, who Cambridge denied reappointment & academic tenure based on the content he taught, which included post structuralism & the work of Foucalt, Derrida & others.

Their positions in turn, including the promotion of 'subjective truths', are key to trans ideology (imo).

So I agree that this is well worth discussing, but the subject is complex & really needs a thread of its own, as this one has plenty of interesting & amusing tangents already.
--Professor Sternly

@KnottyAuty

Not being a professor I’m not sure I even understand your findings?! I’m defo not qualified to start a thread unless someone tells me what the question is 🤣

KnottyAuty · 20/11/2025 21:10

Mmmnotsure · 20/11/2025 14:31

@KnottyAuty

Cambridge English faculty in the early 1980s. The row revolved around whether a young academic – Colin McCabe – would be given a permanent position. It ended up as a bit of a turf war with the generally younger poststructuralism crowd facing down the old guard. Literary theorists v traditionalists if you like. Lectures were disrupted, grown people crossed the road to avoid each other, it contributed to at least one eminent academic leaving the UK. It was quite vicious.

Language is really important and it really matters. The Cambridge argument was largely driven by theories – including from Continental writers and philosophers – about language. It was political. Poststructuralism queers boundaries. I see a similar thing happening today - tearing things apart and making it impossible to have surety or agreement about what anyone is saying. At least then they debated it.

The Cambridge row might sound niche but it ended up on the front pages and you got asked about it at London dinner parties (people had dinner parties in those days).

It shook things up and had an effect in changing what was studied - it expanded the canon - and how it was studied.

Thank you!
Did one faction dominate? Or did they reach a compromise? Was this a precursor to what we’re seeing today with the theories that underpin trans?

SternlyMatthews · 20/11/2025 21:23

ProfLargofesse · 20/11/2025 12:13

I think that it's served a really useful purpose in this process is that it seems to have checked, based on how the transcripts read, the bias which the EJ was presenting as having.

It was quite a nebulous hard to prove one about who do these people think they are coming into my court and yadayada

I think that bias would have really taken her down a path of resistance which would have been hugely detrimental to this case and, in the long term, to her.

She didn't mention the fake professor title in her response to the recusal application, she did go through all the points of MM's recusal application on Monday and so this made it even more noticeable.

I am hoping that the MSM will weigh in on it once the ET has finished hearing evidence and I am presuming they are trying to get info from UU about the credentials.

I imagine the judiciary are also trying to get a handle on it and will issue a statement when press take hold of the story although it might be feasible that MSM thinks it doesn't matter I don't think they would ignore such a juicy scandal.

At that point it won't really matter why Boyd recused herself becuase that narrative will be overwhelmed.

So whilst it didn't do much in the court of public opinion I think it turned the tables in the ET itself and ensured a fairer hearing for the C which is what matters in the moment.

I agree that there were changes after the first recusal application, I've been wondering what was said here:
From Friday NW: "The judge, does, however, have a right (apparently) to privately carpet the parties, which she is doing right now.",
if this was just the judge NC & CE, they had an opportunity to bite back more effectively than in open court, especially if the judge let off too much steam.

ProfessorStlcakethereforeIam · 20/11/2025 22:46

I stumbled across this cartoon in, I think, the Spectator. For some reason it reminded me of these threads

Sara Morrison v BFF - thread 5
JanesLittleGirl · 20/11/2025 22:53

SeniorWranglerStanfreyPock · 20/11/2025 20:58

Oooof, it's the four litres of gravy that amazes me - I can never make enough!

It takes me back to childhood when we ate Yorkshires for Sunday dinner the old fashioned way, made in one big tin and as a starter just with gravy and a kind of onion & vinegar dressing my mum would put together. My favourite bit was the thick soggy bit of Yorkshire from the middle of the tin as it soaked up the most gravy.

Apologies in advance to any thread police watching...

I'm kinda with you. We got a starter of Yorkshire pudding and gravy followed by meat and vegetables. No vinegar based sauce though.

ProfessorOfAllTheThings · 20/11/2025 23:21

SternlyMatthews · 20/11/2025 21:23

I agree that there were changes after the first recusal application, I've been wondering what was said here:
From Friday NW: "The judge, does, however, have a right (apparently) to privately carpet the parties, which she is doing right now.",
if this was just the judge NC & CE, they had an opportunity to bite back more effectively than in open court, especially if the judge let off too much steam.

What does carpet mean here?

I'm not getting the point...

ProfessorBinturong · 20/11/2025 23:22

Carpet = tell off.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 20/11/2025 23:23

Carpet = severely reprimand

ProfessorOfAllTheThings · 20/11/2025 23:26

So the judge told off NC and Dr CE for their first application but we think that meant they could also expand on their concerns?

DarkNovemberBringsTheFog · 20/11/2025 23:48

SeniorWranglerStanfreyPock · 20/11/2025 20:58

Oooof, it's the four litres of gravy that amazes me - I can never make enough!

It takes me back to childhood when we ate Yorkshires for Sunday dinner the old fashioned way, made in one big tin and as a starter just with gravy and a kind of onion & vinegar dressing my mum would put together. My favourite bit was the thick soggy bit of Yorkshire from the middle of the tin as it soaked up the most gravy.

Apologies in advance to any thread police watching...

In my childhood in Yorkshire we ate individual Yorkshires with gravy as a first course (I’ve since been told this was the Yorkshire way to take the edge off your appetite before you got to the expensive part of the meal), then possibly again with gravy, roast meat and veg as the main course. While we were eating another batch would go into the oven, to be eaten with strawberry jam as the pudding course.

This continued when we moved to Lancashire but I don’t know if the neighbours there did the same.

DarkNovemberBringsTheFog · 20/11/2025 23:55

There was a section on BBC Look East about the Northampton Police Chief about an hour ago. I didn’t realise Dr CE had been involved. The focus was on Ms Buzzard-Quashie’s ill-treatment by the police and her persistence in taking the matter to the ICO, and the police’s wrongdoing.

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