And while I have my book out, here's the sick pay bit from Moira Lock.
SSP = statutory sick pay
CE: You've been responsible for pay since 2021?
ML: Yes.
C: Including administering SSP?
M: Yes.
C: para 2 of your witness statement you say instructed verbally by MD. Not automatic decision by you?
M: I don't make decisions for the company.
C: So it's not automatic to put employees on SSP?
M: Not automatic. I take instruction.
C: When we're you instructed?
M: 24 or 25 July [note, NW has 'before 25 July' here - not sure which of us misheard]. Don't have exact date.
C: So before she was on sick leave?
M: No. Would get a sick note.
C: When?
M: Would have been before that date. Sick note is received then I get instruction.
C: So before C went on sick leave 25 July?
M: No. Must have a sick note. Can't have one before the other.
C: This email to you from Bethany is August 1st. Then you received the form.
M: OK.
C: Apparent from the emails that you'd not done SSP before.
M: No, I hadn't.
C: So if anyone was sick between you starting in 2022 [my note - earlier I put 2021, not sure which is right] and this time, they wouldn't have been on SSP?
M: Depends on their contract. We have very few employees, don't recall anyone before this sending sick note.
C: How many employees?
M: 3
C: No more Qs.