Sara Morrison v BFF - thread 5

[SexRealistic]

https://genderblog.net/sara-morrison-v-belfast-film-festival/

Oversized clothes, ankle socks and brogues. Her feet didn’t touch the floor. Her knees were crossed and feet wrapped around herself.

What a nice clear description. Very like the ghastly “look” as seen on Max Mara adverts on Mumsnet, which never fail to irritate me.

Yes to amplify this. I have had my post removed.

Something has been bothering my brain (it's big btw, I'm a Prof)

SD objected to NC saying that SM had had concerns about sending the email. They argued that she did agree to it going, albeit not from her and under duress.

But they also quote the reticence to send this email as the evidence they needed for her not undertaking tasks required of her role?

The usual wanting it both ways I think, Professor of All. I was surprised to find out that refusing to send an email, which I would think justifiable in those circumstances, counts as gross misconduct. If they've used the Big Bad Name for something that's maybe a bit of an irritation for them, what do they do for bigger things, perhaps if staff jumped up on the desk, naked, and danced provocatively in front of a potential client? I mean, in short, how was Sara's refusal gross misconduct?

what do they do for bigger things, perhaps if staff jumped up on the desk, naked, and danced provocatively in front of a potential client?

Film it, apply for funding and show it on the Bigly Screen??

Yes this all day.

Sean on the first day long before the conspiracy came unspooled got Sara to agree to a series of questions.

Along the lines of - You didn’t want to send the email did you? No

So Michele was being a supportive manager when she did that? Yes.

He then objects to any suggestion it was anything other than a supportive act. But in Sara’s witness statement she says how uncomfortable she was.

It goes to the heart of the case and you are right - they can’t have it both ways.

Wouldn’t get funding. Too straight forward.

Might need a non binary biological woman marrying an insurance broker who start a letter writing campaign.

Or a trans identified woman having a pregnancy scare because their ‘gay’ sex with a man produces babies - the fact it’s homophobic will wash 🧼 over them

It at the very least needs an LGBTQIA element and a set of breast milking sci-fi pumps or a Bolshie Bish quote.

Then they’ll fund it.

How about a plucky group of female detectives with fibromyalgia? They band together to slay the evil Big Bad Idealogues (not sure re spelling) by telling truth to power and protect rights for women whether or not they're suitably ideologically pure. That ticks the disability box and we could call it 'the Mumsnet files.' Some of them may well also be lesbian, or from ethnic minorities or have other disabilities but they neither notice or care.

It could run for several series at this rate...

Some folks on Twitter are wanging on about how the recusal application for Prof. Deb’s didn’t work because she liked some posts from eons ago.

That’s what’s annoyed me about the Judge allowing her to slink off. If she had cleanly rejected the recusal and Debs popped up on Monday that recusal application would have been bangin’.

Justice wasn’t done or seen to be done until that matter. Disinformation spreads online as no correction to the application.

On panel member McKeown recusal - fair enough - he was challenged, stated his position, nothing else has come out to the contrary.

They spelled JKR wrong! Are they stupid or is this some sort of 'diss' they've confected?

I used a search facilty which accepts natural language queries & delivers useful but not always reliable results (the Copilot AI/LLM).
Asking: 'The Cambridge English department was torn apart by Structuralism/Post-Structuralism?' brought up Colin McCabe, who Cambridge denied reappointment & academic tenure based on the content he taught, which included post structuralism & the work of Foucalt, Derrida & others.

Their positions in turn, including the promotion of 'subjective truths', are key to trans ideology (imo).

So I agree that this is well worth discussing, but the subject is complex & really needs a thread of its own, as this one has plenty of interesting & amusing tangents already.
--Professor Sternly

@KnottyAuty

I think that it's served a really useful purpose in this process is that it seems to have checked, based on how the transcripts read, the bias which the EJ was presenting as having.

It was quite a nebulous hard to prove one about who do these people think they are coming into my court and yadayada

I think that bias would have really taken her down a path of resistance which would have been hugely detrimental to this case and, in the long term, to her.

She didn't mention the fake professor title in her response to the recusal application, she did go through all the points of MM's recusal application on Monday and so this made it even more noticeable.

I am hoping that the MSM will weigh in on it once the ET has finished hearing evidence and I am presuming they are trying to get info from UU about the credentials.

I imagine the judiciary are also trying to get a handle on it and will issue a statement when press take hold of the story although it might be feasible that MSM thinks it doesn't matter I don't think they would ignore such a juicy scandal.

At that point it won't really matter why Boyd recused herself becuase that narrative will be overwhelmed.

So whilst it didn't do much in the court of public opinion I think it turned the tables in the ET itself and ensured a fairer hearing for the C which is what matters in the moment.

I think the increased attendance in support of BFF yesterday was quite telling. I think they have re-grouped and within their clutch have re-affirmed to themselves that the case NC is making is 'rubbish' and that it won't stand up.

They probably think the rejection of the recusal applications is a sign in their favour. I might too if I was grasping at straws.

I think they've probably had lots of external validation from the captured too and so decided to hold their heads high, as it were.

I wonder if it was for the benefit of LMck who seems to be in that classic position of male privilege where he can fire lots of demands but not dirty his clean white gloves with actual work --no the wimmin can do the actual dirty work.

True - but if Boyd remains on the Panel then the integrity of the Indutstrial Tribunal is in question. And if they allow her to resign they’ve allowed her to walk away without penalty twice.

Having said that they will likely say it wasn’t raised in any recusal application or brought to the attention of the Tribunal so we didn’t need to do anything about it. I know legal people from NI are reading on here but I think they’d be scared to raise their heads.

I think they were reading on here too.

Last week we wondered why Michele had no support and the very next day a man who identifies as a woman turned up as did a friend. This week we’ve had Emma her partner, her Dad and now her close Venn diagram pal Cian.

The fact he allegedly took photos of the public support for Sara in attendance - would point to the fact the heavies were in to intimidate.

They think they can silence women - they tried it with Sara, they tried it with the gallery. LMcK tried it with ‘I will not go down this road’.

Well done Charlotte saying, well I can ask the question and you can refuse to answer. You’ve submitted to the Tribunal Laurence. You don’t get to make the rules.

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I believe the increased presence was for Laurence McKeown, whose hefty ego struck me as requiring quite a bit of stroking, plus a belated realisation that the lack of support for MD undercut their supportive organisation spiel.

I wondered if the 'Homebird' short film was on YT & googling brought up a trailer for it - but it also brought up an animated short of the same name by Ewa Smyk which is gorgeous. It's only 10 minutes, so do take a look. Won't lie, I was in tears when it got to the heart of its story.

I find LMck is rather reminiscent of "who will rid me of this troublesome priest"

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The photograph is really intimidating, why is there this bizarre tendency for people who think they're ultra liberal to be total bullies?

I find LMcK is rather reminiscent of "who will rid me of this troublesome priest"

Given his speech yesterday about being The Big Man. I was getting more Terry Malloy On The Waterfront vibes.

"You don't understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am."

@KnottyAuty

Cambridge English faculty in the early 1980s. The row revolved around whether a young academic – Colin McCabe – would be given a permanent position. It ended up as a bit of a turf war with the generally younger poststructuralism crowd facing down the old guard. Literary theorists v traditionalists if you like. Lectures were disrupted, grown people crossed the road to avoid each other, it contributed to at least one eminent academic leaving the UK. It was quite vicious.

Language is really important and it really matters. The Cambridge argument was largely driven by theories – including from Continental writers and philosophers – about language. It was political. Poststructuralism queers boundaries. I see a similar thing happening today - tearing things apart and making it impossible to have surety or agreement about what anyone is saying. At least then they debated it.

The Cambridge row might sound niche but it ended up on the front pages and you got asked about it at London dinner parties (people had dinner parties in those days).

It shook things up and had an effect in changing what was studied - it expanded the canon - and how it was studied.

I'm hoping to head up to Belfast tomorrow for the summing up. Can't wait.

Please give all our love to Sara! I'm so sorry for what she's going through. Betrayal is absolutely rotten to have to discover and witness in this way, but I hope she takes some comfort in knowing that we all see her former colleagues at Belfast Film Festival for the pathetic self-absorbed bullies that they are. And we see her amazing strength and love her so much for taking them on in this way.