Sara Morrison v BFF - thread 5

[SexRealistic]

https://genderblog.net/sara-morrison-v-belfast-film-festival/

Yuk.

It's just a common enough name that I could believe there'd be another in these circles, having said that.

I think that was possibly one of the most helpful pieces of evidence, but for all the wrong reasons!

If it was ignored by the internal investigation - does this further reinforce the solicited narrative.

i.e. - oh no, the idiot witness has made it clear that we've asked him to provide evidence that helps us get the outcome we want, better not include that in the complaint

I also think it noticeable that in xe SD did not take SM to this complaint. He did use the story about the nail bar/ art exhibition to accuse SM of hideous transphobia so why, given that was a clear aim of his questioning, did he not xe about this — it must be because he had been told by BFF to treat it as unreliable.

They were hoping the complaints would be seen as one entity justifying their actions and did not expect them to be used this way.

I also love, in addition to not affording him the BIG I AM status LM clearly expects by having CE do questioning, that they didn’t Spens very much time with him, treating him as a side issue and not the BIG MAN.

What happens next? Do we get oral submissions (on Friday) or is it just written?

Good question, ColadhSamh!
As far as I can see, Niall Ó Donnghaile, who is an Irish speaker, never uses the anglicised form of his name.
Unless of course someone was trying to hide the fact that the Niall Donnelly mentioned in evidence is Niall Ó Donnghaile [who resigned from SF after sending 'inappropriate messages' to a teenager].

edited to say he was suspended from the party - I can't remember what other actions were taken against him or what positions he resigned from, sorry.

A few things I need to get off my chest

SD calls Moyra Lock (ML)
[she is affirmed]
I just imagined someone solemnly saying to her 'you are a woman'.

Lisa Barros D'Sa* *- love her name. I don't know how people stop themselves making jazz hands after saying it.👐

To me Nick Wallis looks faintly like David Bowie in the picture of him that keeps coming up with the links to his blog. I always read his initials as north-west.

Feel unburdened.

written submissions in by 9am Friday, oral submissions on each others statements and overarching comments and answers to panel q's at 11.30am Friday

New user name for me, sadly not Prof, Dr or Rev, but the best line of this tribunal:

Icanaskthequestionandyoucanrefusetoanswerit

Just mega!

There's a bit more to this. Remind me to come back to it once I've been through my notes.

No, 2 is 2. Three is many, but also very few.

In similar vein, I keep thinking that TP is the Thought Police.
Phew.

a man so far up his own arse he can lick his own brain

😂😂😂😂

I've very glad they didn't abbreviate Lisa Barros D'Sa to LBD. I've struggled enough with TP which is Third Party in my head.

Note for themuns over there:

CE she was given permission because MD had the right sort of opinions for the BFF
LM no if SM wanted to endorse the greens or unions she could - people disagree and work together

CE said 'right sort of political opinions'. SF, Greens and unions are all left wing, and the Irish Green party is an all-Ireland partly like SF; hardly contrasting areas of politics with significant disagreements.

'TP' reminds me of working with Americans, who used the letters instead of saying 'toilet paper'.

I’ve been calling her Little Black Dress as I couldn’t remember her name. I kept confusing MTM with MGM and wondering what films they were putting on the bigly screen.

Can I just say the butter/breastmilk/sci-fi penis extender thing Venn diagram thought has had me smiling since I read it. I could’ve done without seeing the image but thanks to whoever posted it. 🤢

As kids we used to say 'One, two, three, lots and lots'. I've always liked that.

The big Sein Fein man gets rather arsey when the wimmin start pushing him to answer the contradictions in his evidence

SM speaking in favour of freedom of speech for women = bias
MD publicly supporting Sein Fein candidates = not bias

SM "entitled to her views" (according to LM in xe) = not bias?
But according to LM stating them publicly on a platform he disagrees with = bias

CE - no complaints from women's' groups = not bias
LM - I might have read some on social media ... anyway Belfast small... women's sector small... LGBT small... it's broader... I was worried about what she might have said about trans.... anyway it's the context... = bias

CE - but were you encroaching on her protected belief?
LM - I've heard a lot of theories ... "I'm not going down this road"

I picked that out as the line of the day too, and it was said by CE, not NC - what a team they are

As an aside, I wonder if Fake Professor Boyd is listed for being a Panel member over the coming months? Or will she be allowed to Carry On Conning?

This immediately followed an extended huffing, not captured by NW, about hypotheticals. He was objecting to the 'if', rather than necessarily anticipating the direction of the Q.

He sounded throughout like a man well practiced in not answering questions, and not fond of being asked them.

Interesting that the UU hasn't felt moved to decry her

And the Tribunals service doesn't feel a need to clarify their plan of action

I thought it was a stroke of genius to get CE to do the xe

LM was obviously all wired up for a blunt head to head confrontation with NC and I think he had prepared for this. It was probably also a blow to his ego that his examination was by the "junior"