Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival - Thread 2

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Continuation of previous thread - don’t have all the details to hand to add here, so if someone can pop them on, pls do! Want to get this up quickly!

This is from Queen’s University website.

So even if she has been awarded a visiting professorship, which seems increasingly unlikely to me now in itself, she should have stopped using the title eons ago:

‘Visiting Scholar
The School of Natural and Built Environment also hosts Visiting Scholars from around the world. This facilitates academics, researchers and practitioners visiting from other HEIs who wish to conduct research with Queen’s staff. Candidates must hold a doctorate and have an academic sponsor within Queen’s.
Application Process
All applicants who wish to be considered for a Visiting Scholar position must be nominated by a member of academic staff in the School. The nominating staff member must complete the Visiting Scholar Nomination Form for recommendation by the Head of School and onward approval by Academic Affairs. Completed forms should be returned to the School: [email protected]
The Visiting Scholar title will be conferred initially for a period of 3 years and a cumulative maximum of 6 years’

I find it intriguing that there is no evidence of her being awarded a PhD or other post grad qualification because to be a ‘visiting professor’ she would already have to have equivalent standing, at least a PhD.

Someone checking her CV might not clock the detail behind the title.

Sorry to ask, but can someone check I have this right? I want to make sure I'm keeping up.

On Thursday NC's team were given a note by a journalist present in the room to suggest that they had heard something they felt was suspicious from DB when she asked to leave the room. This had occurred after pulling a face when someone (who?) said something about TW being men. Was this connected to SM's child?

Naomi's team were therefore late to the tribunal on Friday as they needed Friday morning to conduct investigations to support an application for recusal. The thinking of observers at the time was whether DB might be allied to a trans-supporting organisation, therefore not neutral.

When proceedings began again, J said DB has fibromyalgia and had needed a meds break but was now stepping out completely.

Am I right in thinking the only people digging into the prof proof are MNers? It's not been mentioning by Naomi or the man who does the tweets, has it?

Just to be clear, the title “visiting professor” can be given to someone that the university has sought out to provide research or lecturing expertise (say because of their experience in industry). BUT, it can also be held by random academics who are on sabbatical (or just “between academic jobs” - ie jobless) who decide they’d like to hang out at X university for the duration, usually so they have somewhere to access research facilities, sometimes to work with specific people. The former might show up on a uni website. The latter, due to the fact that they may be “visiting” for an indeterminate time and may not be contributing to lectures, may have no online presence at all. It’s really not an earned title in the way that other academic titles are.

eta: unis differ in terms of their process for allowing/inviting visiting profs.

I think you can be assured that the collective efforts of the MN vipers will be way beyond any other teams on this this weekend.

Except maybe the Elves....

The MN work will hopefully be utilised by someone with a bit of journalistic curiosity.

I don’t think that’s right.

At 10pm on Thursday NC team was made aware of PBs affiliation to women’s group mentioned by SM in her speech.

They were late because that triggered writing the application for recusal.

During the process of presenting application they were handed a note from a journo — and so don’t think we know what that note said altho there has been speculation,

As it stands currently I think that evidence of any research or academic involvement for Deborah Boyd has not been forthcoming? Apart from the O Levels listed in LinkedIn?

So it really would be a stretch.

could she have gotten her PHD fairly recently and its not online yet? Trying to be fair. One of her FB friends referred to her as doctor 4 weeks ago.

But she changed her name to to Professor Deborah Professor Boyd on CH in 2010. So that seems unlikely.

Hmmmm.

Thank you. But also not a title to be used in the manner of titles.

ie Joe Bloggs, Visiting Professor at Pantsonfire University

Not

Professor Joe Bloggs

…unless the reason you are a visiting prof is because you have a chair elsewhere.

if you are emeritus you would be

Professor Emeritus Joe Bloggs

or

Joe Bloggs (Honorary Professor)

if I’ve read the research so far correctly?

If you're going to list your O Levels, you'd surely also list your PhD?

If you had one...

The BBC are using Professor and Prof for her throughout.

Wonder if BBC Verify has checked that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0gj42l4zeo.amp

Wonder how SD is feeling about his forthright comments this morning.

And maybe your A Levels, undergraduate studies and professional courses in between?!

Very much a stretch. And in any case, use of “professor” by a visiting professor is really, really
frowned on. As noted above, it will get you severe side-eye from all other academics, at the very least. Using it to put yourself forward as an expert is (to me anyway) akin to fraud.

Was just wanting to highlight that even if she had been a visiting prof wherever, there might not be any evidence online of that.

All I know is that on every gender critical ET going forward, the vipers will do the big once over on every lay tribunal member. Regardless of the outcome here, NC has shone the light and ET panel members better be whiter than white and disclose everything henceforth.

I would love to know if exaggerating qualifications is prevalent among ET panelists.

Just to add, we only have pointers about DB so far and I am not saying she has exaggerated qualifications. I’m sure the truth will come out in the wash over the next few days.

Nice summary - yes, all correct.

I don't know when this screen grabs is from but this would suggest the Dr thing isn't particularly recent

Sorry, didn't share the pic before

Twitter news seems alive to the potential problem with her use of Prof

Seriously, I’d come here to solve cold cases before I went to the police. MN has collective research skills beyond compare.

Given that the R3 website specifically mentions visiting prof at Queens it shouldn’t be hard for a journo in Belfast with a good contact book to make the call on a Saturday to someone at Queen’s to check.

Nick Wallis certainly picks his scandals well. This one has blown up spectacularly (and partly thanks to his well timed intervention). Go Nick!

It’s not clear that he was the journalist who flagged an issue - in fact all evidence points to it not being him.

Not sure if this has been mentioned but there is / was a Deborah Boyd listed as contact for Dirtworks Ltd in Armagh in 2024 - no use of professor though and seems to be about a waste processing license. Not listed as a director on companies house

I thought it was a visiting professor at Ulster and environmental tutor at Queen's?

Yes that's what I've got