Advice please - TIM teacher just arrived at DD’s school

[KnottyAuty]

DD reports that the new teacher has asked to be referred to as she/her and Ms Smith. They are obviously male. DD isn’t happy about the power imbalance of potential behaviour points and detentions for non compliance.

I’ve got no idea how to advice DD how to handle this but obviously know from reading here that using this language is a safeguarding problem. Ms Smith should follow the same rules as all the other male teachers. If everyone must use this language, then it looks like the school is unable to tolerate GC beliefs.

Suggesting that DD respectfully avoids pronouns doesn’t seem workable as using the teacher’s name will include “Miss”….

Is there a gender neutral way of referring to a teacher like “Professor”?!

What do I advise DD so she can work within her GC beliefs? And what should I write to the school to say about this?

eta clarification

Men who crossdress don't typically identify as trans women.

Because you have already been given the answer to your question in ICD-10. Now it is your turn to provide evidence of equal weight to counteract that if you disagree with the evidence presented

That ChatGPT response was almost impenetrable with the repetition and the lack of formatting.

I wonder though how AI squares the 'but some of the crimes were committed before transition' as being relevant? What the fuck does ChatGPT think magically happens to a male person when they declare that they are female? How does this mitigate the fact that they are referring to male people who have already shown that they are sex offenders? It doesn't. But ChatGPT has pulled that falsity from somewhere.

Yes. Do you have evidence that they are not?

Where do you get that idea from? Where is the evidence that supports your statement here please?

It isn’t. He is a man so it is Mr

Until recently Stonewall considered cross dressers to fall within the definition of trans

Because it was before they become part of the "prisoner" demographic. Most trans women are not and have never been prisoners.

No.

Cross dressers are typically comfortable with their sex. They just like to wear clothes typically associated with the other sex.

The vast majority of Transwomen began with crossdressing. Plus, Transwomen are men who dress in womens clothing, the literal definition of a crossdresser.

Probably because they wanted to try it out jn secret first. Lots of heroin addicts start with cannabis. Doesn't mean every stoner will go on to start shooting up.

Who said they’re a man? Has the school announced they are male? Or has the OP’s daughter just decided they are? It is possible to be mistaken you know.
And if they are trans they are still Miss. The OP, her daughter, you or anyone else doesn’t get to decide someone else’s name whether you agree or not. The school has hired them a Miss so that is their title. Pupils just can’t decide to call them a different name

Woah - you all have a lot to say. I've got back from work and finishes supper expecting there to be a dozen replies. I'll need to read everything at the weekend but wanted to reassure you that I'm not a plopper.

DD and I have agreed a plan that I can enact without exposing her to risk of any sanctions or people hating on her for believing sex is real, while simultaneously avoiding calling the teacher "Mr" - wish us luck xx

Where is Pete the Plumber when you need him?

'Trans' is a subjective concept, so there isn't a clear line between men who 'cross dress' and trans women.

'Cross dress' is also a rather odd term because it is normal for women to wear men's clothes. Strictly speaking, a man who wanted to dress as an average woman would be wearing jeans, a t-shirt and trainers.

Most men are not and have never been prisoners. Yet safeguarding policies use a blanket exclusion based on the risk that men present.

There is no change that happens in a male person when they transition that reduces their risk of committing a sex crime to that of the general female population.

What will she do op? Sounds like it could be useful

There is no need to be uncomfortable with your sex to identify as trans.

So?

What a terrible idea to compel children to ignore the evidence of their eyes.

Especially when the issue is to do with adult sexual feelings. That’s the massive elephant in this room.

And there is no risk that the majority of men who are not violent will suddenly become violent predators if they transition. There are also no laws that specifically safeguard against men. There are laws that are sex based to uphold privacy and dignity.

So the idea that the average trans woman working as a teacher poses some sort of increased threat just isnt based in reality. If it was the case, we wouldn't have any male nurses, teachers, social workers or anything.

There are also no laws that specifically safeguard against men.

Spaces are single sex to safeguard against men and to maintain privacy and dignity.

If some of my new grad colleagues are anything to go by, they'll cope fine. Today's younger generations seem to be remarkably accepting of some of this stuff.

It's just calling people a name/title that doesn't mean a thing unless you let it.