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BBC trans coverage ‘censored’ by its own reporters Corporation’s LGBT desk ‘keeps other perspectives off air’, leaked internal dossier claims

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 05/11/2025 19:49

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/5ac2c6a0bb851134

absolutely shocked.

no really….

BBC trans coverage ‘censored’ by its own reporters

Corporation’s LGBT desk ‘keeps other perspectives off air’, leaked internal dossier claims

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/5ac2c6a0bb851134

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Weneedmoreheretics · 07/11/2025 10:17

Evil corrupt biased public paid broadcaster, we all need to cancel our licence and withdraw our funding, MASS PROTEST NEEDED TO SHIT DOWN BBC ASAP

Weneedmoreheretics · 07/11/2025 10:18

shit was typo but very appropriate lol

TempestTost · 07/11/2025 10:26

SionnachRuadh · 06/11/2025 22:43

One of my bugbears about UK media is that there are almost no religion correspondents left. So when you get a big story that touches on religion, like Sarah Mullaly being appointed ABC, there are very few reporters who've got the background knowledge to explain what it means. The BBC's religion coverage has been uniformly terrible for years.

So I think there's definitely enough gay and lesbian news out there to justify one or two beat reporters who know the community and can dig up stories. I wouldn't even have a problem in principle with a beat reporter who focuses on trans issues. It really is the committee of apparatchiks laying down a party line that's the problem.

Yes, I think that's fair. (I agree about religion reporters too, some of the dumb stuff you see in reports on those topics is just embarrassing.)

I would have thought though that those are topics that might have specialists, but that they would also be general news reporters, and other reporters wouldn't be prevented from picking up stories on those topics too. Especially if the other guy doesn't want to touch it.

TempestTost · 07/11/2025 10:34

OneCraftyMentor · 07/11/2025 09:43

The trouble is this is ?mainly being reported on the Torygraph so people won't believe it.

This is what I am seeing where it is being discussed at all. This should be international but so far I've not seen anything in the Canadian press.

And reddit is full of people saying the speech splicing thing is just fine. They are a bubble of course but I think they do indicate what the "real" left types will say.

OneCraftyMentor · 07/11/2025 10:44

@TempestTost The more right wing media is frequently quite anti- BBC. I don't think I would have noticed if it wasn't a topic I was familiar with, even though I try and read a variety of sources.

TempestTost · 07/11/2025 10:51

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 07/11/2025 09:39

Really interesting read, thank you. If anything I find the issues called out on reporting around racial diversity most shocking as it’s so just so damaging to social cohesion. Destabilising the country is really not what I pay my license fee for.

As we all know too well, Britain’s social cohesion is strained, and too many politicians seek to exploit grievances around ‘fairness’. The British public should be able to rely on the BBC for an impartial exploration of the challenges and opportunities we all face in society.

I wish I found it shocking, but it really just confirms all the things I have suspected about the reporting they do on this topic. Which to me has been deeply suspect for a long time, in terms of their ability to understand statistical analysis.

It seems like it's been generally accepted for years now among the id pol/CRT theory types that all you need to do to show racism is find some kind of plausible correlation, and that's it. The Marxist American academic, Adolph Reed, has been complaining about this for a decade or more, what totally bollocksy shit information it produces.

Personally, I think this is what has driven the increase in real racism and racial divisions over the past 15 years or so - this kind of bad statistics and using it for headlines. People know intuitively that a lot of it is inaccurate, and it's used to justify giving race advantages within the system. It's gone a long way to undermine principles around racial equality and just foment dissent and anger.

TempestTost · 07/11/2025 10:53

OneCraftyMentor · 07/11/2025 10:44

@TempestTost The more right wing media is frequently quite anti- BBC. I don't think I would have noticed if it wasn't a topic I was familiar with, even though I try and read a variety of sources.

I wonder if the government getting more involved will mean other news outlets have to pick it up?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/11/2025 12:03

Beowulfa · 07/11/2025 09:56

According to that the BBC have been:

-making shit up to further their own agenda
-ignoring fact-based criticism
-arrogantly assuming they can do as they please

So acting just like Trump then?

And the purpose of your whatabouttery is...?

nauticant · 07/11/2025 13:18

Whenever I've drawn this sort of comparison to Trump it's been with deep irony that for all of their evident hatred of the guy, particularly about his shaky relationship with facts and truth, that they'll look at some of what he does and think "actually that's a rather effective trick so let's do the same".

Misla · 07/11/2025 13:31

They're discussing it on Radio 4 World At One right now.

SionnachRuadh · 07/11/2025 13:31

I wouldn't mind so much if they put in the Trumpian disclaimer of "I haven't looked into it but many people say so"

Talkinpeace · 07/11/2025 13:32

WATO desperately reying to ignore women YET AGAIN

nauticant · 07/11/2025 13:34

This is being "covered" on The World at One at the moment. The new line is that we can't discuss what the BBC did because they're refusing to comment.

They might get away with this. But if they don't the minimisation campaign they've been running will make things worse.

nauticant · 07/11/2025 13:36

They got Roger Moseley, a recent BBC bigwig, in to do today's minimising.

Talkinpeace · 07/11/2025 13:40

And he focussed ENTIRELY on Trump
not on the BBCs failings to UK taxpayers and licence payers

disgraceful

SionnachRuadh · 07/11/2025 13:50

If anyone is in the mood for a philosophical take on this, David McGrogan is here to help:

What has been going on at the BBC must be understood, then, not as an attempt to simply trick viewers or achieve a real world outcome of some kind, but rather as a particular chapter in a long story of, let us call it, Truth management that has been going on ever since Trump was elected first time around. This is not the behaviour of a newsroom full of journalists chuckling over their cornflakes about how they will dupe their viewers. It is the behaviour of people who are in the grip of a commitment to a set of ‘Truths’ which are simply more important to them than facts. It is the conduct of those who, thoroughly imbued with one conception of reality, will think it entirely natural to distort facts in the service of that conception of reality. It is True that Donald Trump is a threat to all that we hold dear. And the facts must replicate and reinforce that ‘Truth’.

The Truth about Trump - by David McGrogan

Talkinpeace · 07/11/2025 13:56

He needs more salt in his navel

as he is not looking outside his bathroom

rzm · 07/11/2025 14:23

It was very telling when Have I Got News For You didn’t cover the court case earlier this year and in the following episode had to address it due to criticism. I know BBC doesn’t directly control HIGNFY it’s commissioned I believe (?) but very much of the same ilk!

Dragonasaurus · 07/11/2025 14:56

Sadly I can’t read the article, but the truth is that the bbc MASSIVELY influence how people in the uk view the world around them. This is especially true for issues/events which they aren’t hugely interested in, and so don’t have another source/perspective.

The BBC’s approach to the trans debate and women’s rights has been a huge part of why Stonewall’s law was so widely adopted. The bbc are absolutely culpable in the row back of women’s rights. I would love to see what the LGBT+ desk’s response to Isla’s pink leggings was. Some stories can’t be buried - fortunately!

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 07/11/2025 15:08

meanwhile in fucking clown land:
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1oqu7m4/new_telegraph_trans_bbc_video/

"Yeah I saw the article about it and I was aghast. This is the same BBC that won't post any trans positive stories- no mass lobby of parliament, no protest of 150k people. We only get mentioned when we are being blamed for something or CGs are in opposition. sex matters are routinely given the last word and a lot of jk Rowling tweets about trans people get their own articles.
Id love someone to do a report on how the BBC covers and frames trans people."

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Misla · 07/11/2025 16:03

Dragonasaurus · 07/11/2025 14:56

Sadly I can’t read the article, but the truth is that the bbc MASSIVELY influence how people in the uk view the world around them. This is especially true for issues/events which they aren’t hugely interested in, and so don’t have another source/perspective.

The BBC’s approach to the trans debate and women’s rights has been a huge part of why Stonewall’s law was so widely adopted. The bbc are absolutely culpable in the row back of women’s rights. I would love to see what the LGBT+ desk’s response to Isla’s pink leggings was. Some stories can’t be buried - fortunately!

You can read the article by clicking on the archive link that the PP posted.

HildegardP · 07/11/2025 17:34

TempestTost · 06/11/2025 22:28

Isn't that just news, like other news?

It's not like you ignore the news that doesn't have an especially assigned person associated with it.

Until Davie rocked up & until the imbecile wheeze of austerity, the Beeb had loads of specialist beat journos as well as genuine regional news journalists. Now everything's cut to the bone & a tiny group of people control everything in News. It's a recipie for failure.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 07/11/2025 17:40

I been watching for years how BBC have been promoting transgenderism. Negating the views of women and have neglected their duties towards children. They disgust me.

IwantToRetire · 07/11/2025 17:45

I think we really need to understand that what to FWR seems like a core issue is one that the majority of people just dont care about.

The BBC like other news outlets is driven by competition. They dont go on about the Royal Family because the are royalist because the majority (idiot?) audience responds to it. Just as the popular news paper put pictures of the Royals on the front page.

Sadly to say most of the news we get is in response to audience reaction. 90% if not more of our news is now personality politics.

ie there is far more media reaction to a presenter being censored for making a face. (In responce to 20 complaints.)

So nice as it is to have somewhere to commisserate and talk with those who have a similar outlook it has no impact whatsoever on the media, bbc or any other, let alone the listening, reading public.

Short of Sex Matters (as no one else is doing anything) starting another legal challenge, its not likely to.

Particulary if as seems possible, somehow Labour negates the changes that the Supreme Court Judgement should bring about.

Sadly the group characterised as silly old women who haven't moved with times, are not going to get the sympathy of the young brave sons and daughters families support.

How do dinasours make themselves as lovable and worth saving.

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