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BBC trans coverage ‘censored’ by its own reporters Corporation’s LGBT desk ‘keeps other perspectives off air’, leaked internal dossier claims

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 05/11/2025 19:49

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/5ac2c6a0bb851134

absolutely shocked.

no really….

BBC trans coverage ‘censored’ by its own reporters

Corporation’s LGBT desk ‘keeps other perspectives off air’, leaked internal dossier claims

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/5ac2c6a0bb851134

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nauticant · 10/11/2025 18:17

It would be a weakness in any case Trump might bring, which would in all likelihood be a civil case. However, even a weak case would give Trump massive leverage over the BBC. Imagine, for example, if he got it allowed into a Florida courtroom in front of a tame judge?

GallantKumquat · 10/11/2025 18:32

nauticant · 10/11/2025 18:17

It would be a weakness in any case Trump might bring, which would in all likelihood be a civil case. However, even a weak case would give Trump massive leverage over the BBC. Imagine, for example, if he got it allowed into a Florida courtroom in front of a tame judge?

In addition the BBC is highly on US partnerships to broaden its distribution channels and collaborate on creating content. Trump's trade war already directly targeted UK production. The BBC is highly vulnerable to the Trump admin's regulatory apparatus.

tbh, I was somewhat surprised that the amount of the suit was so modest. I'm curious if that means that Trump isn't gearing up to pursue a vendetta or whether it means that his approach will be a broad and more comprehensive effort to influence the BBC as an institution, similar to the ways he's attacked elite universities in the US, which would be unprecedented for a foreign state media organization like the BBC.

SionnachRuadh · 10/11/2025 19:22

whether it means that his approach will be a broad and more comprehensive effort to influence the BBC as an institution, similar to the ways he's attacked elite universities in the US, which would be unprecedented for a foreign state media organization like the BBC.

I'm old enough to remember the Daily Mirror under Maxwell's ownership, when Cap'n Bob was pursuing his own Eastern Bloc diplomacy, and on a regular basis you would see pictures of Maxwell posing alongside the General Secretary of Mongolia or it may have been Bulgaria, with Pravda-style text about the great strides being made by the socialist states.

I thought, no, it's inconceivable the BBC would be that obsequious to an American leader.

And then I remembered how they covered Obama.

Obama wasn't particularly shy about using the CIA to influence foreign media, say planting stories in the German press that were helpful to Merkel, but he didn't really need to do that. The BBC gave him the Pravda treatment unprompted.

They've barely pretended to be impartial on American politics for as long as I've been alive, and they never believed it would bite them on the bum.

Brainworm · 10/11/2025 20:42

Today’s episode of The Newsagents was interesting. All 3 presenters, all 3 of whom held prominent roles at the BBC were briefly speaking in defence of the BBC. Not a huge amount was said about trans issues but John Sopel was very clear about ideological capture and having taken a ridiculous stance. Emily Matlis agreed and commented that lots of newspapers had done this too. Sopel was pointing out the BBC failing in relation to not apologising and changing stance.
Unsurprisingly, Lewis Goodall, who was vocal throughout the rest of the show, said nothing in this. He is completely TWAW and it is significant that he didn’t push back on the points Sopel was making. It suggests that TRA journos are running out of road.

nauticant · 10/11/2025 20:46

Is Lewis Goodall the Richard Hammond of The Newagents?

moto748e · 10/11/2025 21:19

I watched David Dimbleby being interviewed on C4 News. I thought he was like a general fighting the battles of the previous war, trying to defend the BBC. He could point with some justice to the fact that the likes of Charles Moore, and Press barons in general in the past, have always resented the BBC. None of that excuses the BBC's recent behaviour and policies.

NextRinny · 10/11/2025 22:19

The below just sums up my annoyance with the bbc (we investigated ourselves and found nothing - and we're not going to give it more than a passing one sentence cover. No evidence, no supporting information. )

And on the review of sex and gender identity, the EGSC noted much of the coverage met the BBC's standards of impartiality and accuracy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2p1v77gl2o
Letter to the Culture, Media and Sport Committee

Samir Shah wears a grey blazer, the lapel studded with a Remembrance poppy, a white shirt and a brown and blue stripped knitted tie.

BBC chairman's statement in full

Samir Shah has apologised for an "error of judgement" over the editing of a speech by Donald Trump in a BBC Panorama documentary.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2p1v77gl2o

moto748e · 10/11/2025 22:26

Clearly the ratio of drag queens to Darlington nurses was correct, then.

Brainworm · 10/11/2025 22:33

nauticant · 10/11/2025 20:46

Is Lewis Goodall the Richard Hammond of The Newagents?

All I know of Richard Hammond is that he made a joke, in the mid twenty teens, about ice-cream being gay. I’m not sure where he fits into things.

Lewis Goodall goes to James O’Brian school of wokery whereby TWAW and anyone who disagrees is far right and funded by the Tuftan Street mafia.

I imagine his silence today must have been challenging for him, but he could see that Maitlis and Sopel had made up their minds. Previously, they’ve not pushed back on his nonsense.

lcakethereforeIam · 10/11/2025 23:23

A writer for the Telegraph is not impressed with Samir Shah's response

https://archive.ph/kSUxv

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/10/bbcs-defence-shows-it-has-learnt-nothing-from-scandal/

The BBC's bias on gender dismissed in one sentence

On the review of sex and gender identity, the EGSC noted much of the coverage met the BBC’s standards of impartiality and accuracy.

Michael Prescott, earlier in the article, is quote as feeling despair at the inaction of the EGSC.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/10/bbcs-defence-shows-it-has-learnt-nothing-from-scandal

BungledBundle · 10/11/2025 23:50

ItsCoolForCats · 10/11/2025 18:00

Helen Lewis gets a lot of stick for trying to sit on the fence, but people like Evan Davis will listen to her because they think she is reasonable and moderate. Let's be honest, Evan Davis is never going to be persuaded by Helen Joyce.

I came on here tonight to see if anyone had mentioned the weasely little shyster Evan Davies on PM.

From the bit I heard in the car home, he was all earnest appreciation of the situation until Helen(?) brought up sex/gender issues whereupon he did a big weellllllll, like thatcher said, there's no such thing as society, there's really no such thing as the bbc/really lots of different departments/newsnight covered gender issues quite a lot/wibble wibble.

I nearly threw the car radio out the window. What a load of disingenuous bilge. Like the BBC doesn't have a floor full of governance bods, people creating editorial guidelines and language style guides etc etc.

I'd love to get him in a locked room and harangue him til he wept. Grrrrr.

On a calmer note, I will be complaining about the Badenoch speech edit.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 11/11/2025 08:08

lcakethereforeIam · 10/11/2025 23:23

A writer for the Telegraph is not impressed with Samir Shah's response

https://archive.ph/kSUxv

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/10/bbcs-defence-shows-it-has-learnt-nothing-from-scandal/

The BBC's bias on gender dismissed in one sentence

On the review of sex and gender identity, the EGSC noted much of the coverage met the BBC’s standards of impartiality and accuracy.

Michael Prescott, earlier in the article, is quote as feeling despair at the inaction of the EGSC.

Thank you for sharing that.

The BBC have been righteously refusing to apologise for a long time as we know. And the weasely bit about 'we post corrections' is another BBC MO we all know. It basically boils down to saying the version they wanted to get out to the public, knowing full well the issues with it, and a few days later pop out a tiny bit saying 'actually the truth was x' knowing barely anyone will see it and their preferred version will be what everyone thinks is the truth.

They're past saving, sadly. The time to sort them out was 20 years ago.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/11/2025 08:19

lcakethereforeIam · 10/11/2025 23:23

A writer for the Telegraph is not impressed with Samir Shah's response

https://archive.ph/kSUxv

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/10/bbcs-defence-shows-it-has-learnt-nothing-from-scandal/

The BBC's bias on gender dismissed in one sentence

On the review of sex and gender identity, the EGSC noted much of the coverage met the BBC’s standards of impartiality and accuracy.

Michael Prescott, earlier in the article, is quote as feeling despair at the inaction of the EGSC.

Thank you

If Mr Shah is so passionate about impartiality and trust, why did he do nothing when Mr Prescott made managers, including him, aware of what Panorama had done? And why, when Mr Prescott later wrote to him in person about the same subject, did he not even bother to reply?

I’m increasingly feeling Samir Shah is straight up incompetent for the role he is in

Misla · 11/11/2025 08:30

lcakethereforeIam · 10/11/2025 23:23

A writer for the Telegraph is not impressed with Samir Shah's response

https://archive.ph/kSUxv

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/10/bbcs-defence-shows-it-has-learnt-nothing-from-scandal/

The BBC's bias on gender dismissed in one sentence

On the review of sex and gender identity, the EGSC noted much of the coverage met the BBC’s standards of impartiality and accuracy.

Michael Prescott, earlier in the article, is quote as feeling despair at the inaction of the EGSC.

On the review of sex and gender identity, the EGSC noted much of the coverage met the BBC’s standards of impartiality and accuracy.

"Much" doing a lot of heavy lifting there...

nauticant · 11/11/2025 08:43

@BungledBundle: I also heard Evan Davis move the conversation on sharply once Helen Lewis came out with wrongthink. It seemed like Davis was expecting a bit of fence-sitting, "but the BBC means so well and is so nice", and for her not to be so critical. And on the topic of capture by genderism, of all subjects!

lcakethereforeIam · 11/11/2025 10:18

Misla · 11/11/2025 08:30

On the review of sex and gender identity, the EGSC noted much of the coverage met the BBC’s standards of impartiality and accuracy.

"Much" doing a lot of heavy lifting there...

It also met the 'BBC's standard', which doesn't seem to be worth the post it's dangling from.

Misla · 11/11/2025 11:29

Ariana12 · 11/11/2025 10:51

https://x.com/JournalismSEEN/status/1988135685383946296?t=TlzGnglFhlVzJVNRvKyHkg&s=19

Evidently the concerns of female journos were ignored.

Well colour me totally and completely shocked. Shocked, I tell you 🙄

WinHour · 11/11/2025 14:32

I have a vague question I hope you can help with for a discussion elsewhere.

I recall back in February ISH for the Sandie Peggie case there was a BBC headline about Sandie admitting to harassment.

I remember it being misleading as she admitted that under the NHS policy something she said constituted harassment.

I can't find it now as I suspect the BBC changed or deleted it.

Can anyone remember what it is and ideally has an archive copy? I think someone might have made a complaint?

Thanks in advance!

IvePiercedMyFootOnASpike · 11/11/2025 15:25

@WinHour

BBC 17 Feb : During her evidence, Ms Peggie confirmed she had called Dr Upton a man and said she believed the medic was a biological male.

She acknowledged that this would be considered harassment under NHS Fife's diversity and equality guidance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3d5d0x97vyo

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2025 19:05

As pp said, at one point they put out a headline that she had “admitted harassment” based on this. Complete spin. You can track it on both the live threads here and UK trans Reddit, who lapped it up obviously.

Lalgarh · 11/11/2025 19:09

I hope you're all satisfied.

Little Owen Jones says the BBC dying will be ALL YOUR FAULT

https://nitter.net/owenjonesjourno/status/1988257584873156999#m

SionnachRuadh · 11/11/2025 19:18

Morph is VERY VERY ANGRY