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Hobbycraft employee badge - no terfs, no Tories

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ItsCoolForCats · 27/10/2025 18:36

Another example of why bringing your whole self to work is a terrible idea.

Hobbycraft seems to be busy trying to mitigate the fallout, presumably because they know which demographic spends the most money there.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/politics/5359520/dundee-hobbycraft-trans-row/

EXCLUSIVE: Perthshire designer 'ordered to leave' Dundee Hobbycraft shop after transgender rights badge row

Crieff woman Rebekah Chapman claims she was subjected to "intolerance and nasty slogans" after complaining about a staff member's "no terfs, no Tories" badge.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/politics/5359520/dundee-hobbycraft-trans-row/

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ThatBlackCat · 31/10/2025 10:30

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nicepotoftea · 31/10/2025 10:48

Swiftasthewind · 31/10/2025 09:50

Do they? That comment goes against the established paradigm that the younger generations are far more left leaning and pro LGBTQIA+ than any of the generations before them. Just seems like bitter millennials who like her these days.

The established paradigm that the younger generation are more 'left leaning' has taken a knock in recent years, but a big chunk of the HP market is children who don't have opinions on politics.

Having said that, Rowling's views on this issue are completely in line with her left wing politics.

The Strike novels are aimed at an older audience. I don't know if her readers are 'bitter', but there certainly seem to be plenty of them.

nicepotoftea · 31/10/2025 10:51

ThatBlackCat · 31/10/2025 10:27

It didn't take long for you to show your true colours did it? 🙄I've only purchased one thing of hers, and that was several years ago, before all this. I know it really grinds your gears that feminists support someone who defends womens rights. Sorry to burst your bubble but we aren't all MRAs like you. The majority of people do support womens rights. As much as you hate that idea.

The use of 'Joanne' always suggests that the writer is rather more obsessed with Rowling's thoughts than anyone on this board.

Kucinghitam · 31/10/2025 10:52
Art Loop GIF by sus4n

As always, those who self-identify as Wonderful Angels of The Right Side of History seem to not look quite so radiant to outside observers who haven't got their own head so far up their own golden arse that they've got high on their own Righteous Farts.

#OperationLetThemSpeak

SionnachRuadh · 31/10/2025 10:55

nicepotoftea · 31/10/2025 10:51

The use of 'Joanne' always suggests that the writer is rather more obsessed with Rowling's thoughts than anyone on this board.

It's a weird verbal tic you often see on e.g. trans subreddits.

It's a bit like the people who, whenever there's a Tommy Robinson discussion (and I stress I do not like TR and am not comparing him at all to JKR), but there's a subset of people who make a huge performance of always calling him "Yaxley Lennon", and they remind me a bit of Cliff Richard superfans who call Cliff "Harry" and love to show off how much they know about his life.

Greyskybluesky · 31/10/2025 10:56

nicepotoftea · 31/10/2025 10:51

The use of 'Joanne' always suggests that the writer is rather more obsessed with Rowling's thoughts than anyone on this board.

Yes, it's a dead giveaway.

That she continues to be a highly successful, multi-million-pound author obviously still grates on many people, particularly those who may be failing at life.

Swiftasthewind · 31/10/2025 11:00

Greyskybluesky · 31/10/2025 10:56

Yes, it's a dead giveaway.

That she continues to be a highly successful, multi-million-pound author obviously still grates on many people, particularly those who may be failing at life.

Well it is what it is. The Lord of the Rings is also highly successful but in modern context those books are mess of European ethno-nationalism and problematic stereotypes about black people in the form of ‘orcs’.

Success doesn’t equate to moral.

SionnachRuadh · 31/10/2025 11:02

Swift, have you ever read LOTR?

If you read any of the passages with orcs and say "hey, that reminds me of black people", that's more of a you problem than a Tolkien problem.

ThatBlackCat · 31/10/2025 11:05

Swiftasthewind · 31/10/2025 11:00

Well it is what it is. The Lord of the Rings is also highly successful but in modern context those books are mess of European ethno-nationalism and problematic stereotypes about black people in the form of ‘orcs’.

Success doesn’t equate to moral.

You refuse to answer any questions. Why is defending the rights of the vulnerable oppressed sex not 'moral'?

Kucinghitam · 31/10/2025 11:05

SionnachRuadh · 31/10/2025 11:02

Swift, have you ever read LOTR?

If you read any of the passages with orcs and say "hey, that reminds me of black people", that's more of a you problem than a Tolkien problem.

cow tornado GIF

I think we've clearly established that Swift really does think everybody else is the problem. Also, I'm imagining they live in a purity spiral like this.

TerrierSlave · 31/10/2025 11:07

ThatBlackCat · 31/10/2025 10:27

It didn't take long for you to show your true colours did it? 🙄I've only purchased one thing of hers, and that was several years ago, before all this. I know it really grinds your gears that feminists support someone who defends womens rights. Sorry to burst your bubble but we aren't all MRAs like you. The majority of people do support womens rights. As much as you hate that idea.

I've never bought any of her books or watched any of her films, let alone bought a ton of merchandise. Clearly I'm Terfing wrong!

Swiftasthewind · 31/10/2025 11:07

Kucinghitam · 31/10/2025 11:05

I think we've clearly established that Swift really does think everybody else is the problem. Also, I'm imagining they live in a purity spiral like this.

I know your intention is to mock me but that picture of the cow flying around a tornado did get a chuckle out of me 😂

Brava!

Helleofabore · 31/10/2025 11:09

Kucinghitam, you are on fire today with gifs.

SidewaysOtter · 31/10/2025 11:09

Greyskybluesky · 31/10/2025 10:56

Yes, it's a dead giveaway.

That she continues to be a highly successful, multi-million-pound author obviously still grates on many people, particularly those who may be failing at life.

I suspect the used of "Joanne" in such a way is just another example of men/MRAs being incredibly patronising to women who step out of line. A deliberate faux-familiarity designed to convey condescension.

Swiftasthewind · 31/10/2025 11:11

Helleofabore · 31/10/2025 11:09

Kucinghitam, you are on fire today with gifs.

I’m not sure of the context however. Am I supposed to be the cow or the tornado? It all goes way over my head I must admit.

Greyskybluesky · 31/10/2025 11:14

TerrierSlave · 31/10/2025 11:07

I've never bought any of her books or watched any of her films, let alone bought a ton of merchandise. Clearly I'm Terfing wrong!

Me neither. I have a basic knowledge of what it's all about thanks to young relatives who adore the stuff (and who all think identifying as trans, NB etc is just cringey attention seeking, but that's for another thread)

I became interested in her for her rise to success, her opinions on women's rights and her refusal to be browbeaten by people who haven't even read her supposed "anti-trans" writings

SidewaysOtter · 31/10/2025 11:16

Swiftasthewind · 31/10/2025 11:11

I’m not sure of the context however. Am I supposed to be the cow or the tornado? It all goes way over my head I must admit.

I'd go with the tornado if I were you. All that swirling hot air.

SidewaysOtter · 31/10/2025 11:22

...young relatives who...who all think identifying as trans, NB etc is just cringey attention seeking, but that's for another thread

I think it is relevant to this thread. I've seen multiple mentions in FWR discussions of kids now seeing the whole trans/NB thing as deeply uncool/just attention-seeking. Nothing was going to end the trend/contagion faster than it being seen as unfashionable and out of date.

Of course, this belies the statement that that generation (Alpha?) are more TQIAWTF-minded and it's not how @Swiftasthewind would like it to be, so it can't possibly be allowed to be the case Hmm

Helleofabore · 31/10/2025 11:25

Swiftasthewind · 31/10/2025 11:11

I’m not sure of the context however. Am I supposed to be the cow or the tornado? It all goes way over my head I must admit.

I believe the cow is illustrating the spiral effect. You are in fact neither, but people have understood that you 'live' in a purity spiral from reading your posts. A cyclone or hurricane is actually a good analogy for a purity spiral because purity spirals are destructive, but if you live in the eye of these phenomenons, you cannot see the destruction of that 'spiral'. I don't believe tornados have eyes, but still, it is evocative of destructive purity spirals.

SionnachRuadh · 31/10/2025 11:44

Tolkien's writing was of course deeply informed by his Catholic faith, but he always resisted attempts to read his work as a religious or political allegory.

Though of course people have been doing that since, much to the elderly Tolkien's bemusement, the hippies discovered him in the 1960s. Some conservatives, and a few people further to the right, like his work and see some of their own values and priorities reflected in it. If it matters, the biggest LOTR fan I know of in British politics is that well-known right wing agitator... er... Richard Burgon.

It's one mark of a good work of art that all sorts of people can bring their own experiences and values to it, and take away their own interpretations. This is why I've never liked agitprop art that insists on only one interpretation. That would condemn us to a living hell of listening to Billy Bragg.

DuesToTheDirt · 31/10/2025 14:45

Swiftasthewind · 31/10/2025 11:00

Well it is what it is. The Lord of the Rings is also highly successful but in modern context those books are mess of European ethno-nationalism and problematic stereotypes about black people in the form of ‘orcs’.

Success doesn’t equate to moral.

Are these the same "black people" that you want to travel to Africa to have casual sex with?

JaquelineHide · 31/10/2025 16:49

DuesToTheDirt · 31/10/2025 14:45

Are these the same "black people" that you want to travel to Africa to have casual sex with?

Ah yes, the "exotic lovelies".

JanesLittleGirl · 31/10/2025 16:51

I would advise staying away from Tolkien. I understand that he is Hobbit forming.

TempestTost · 31/10/2025 16:54

Why wouldn't a European writer set his fantasy in a European type world? I find most Asian writers set their books in Asia, African writers set their books in Africa. I used to read a Canadian fantasy writer whose books were set, at least partly, in Canada. There was a flying canoe.

EdithStourton · 31/10/2025 18:03

Swiftasthewind · 31/10/2025 09:50

Do they? That comment goes against the established paradigm that the younger generations are far more left leaning and pro LGBTQIA+ than any of the generations before them. Just seems like bitter millennials who like her these days.

Having recently accompanied a school trip to Harry Potter World, I can confirm that this is bullshit.

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