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Katie Lam and Pochin from Reform spouting stuff that makes me feel sick. Looking at all the glossy goons like Kristi Noem and Pam Bondi surrounding Trump. I am predicting that Erica Kirk will be the first woman President or perhaps more likely Vance’s Vice President. I’m not talking about women who would like to pay less tax, or Theresa May, but those who rise in extreme right wing circles.

I’m working my way extremely slowly through Andrea Dworkin’s ‘Right Wing Women’. Has anyone else read it? I don’t have any conclusions about this yet…

The Celts, who have been here since before the Roman invasion, beg to differ.

That's exactly what I was going to say.

It makes me nostalgic for the days when there was much more involvement from ordinary people, via unions and the local membership. Nowadays, it feels like endless whinging from the political elites because the plebs won't do as they are told.

The thing is that there were people on the left who kind of saw this coming, even if they only saw it partially. And not only intellectuals like Christopher Lasch or Maurice Glasman.

The period after the Brexit referendum was very revealing. I'm not looking to argue here about whether Brexit was a good or bad thing, I'm just making a point about the popular will. Almost all MPs said before the vote that they'd respect the outcome, and then when the outcome wasn't what they expected, the majority of them spent the next three and a half years acting like a toddler refusing to put his wellies on.

There was a small group of Labour MPs in heavily Leave-voting Red Wall constituencies (Stephen Kinnock, Caroline Flint, Gloria De Piero and a couple of others) who said "we voted Remain, we don't like the outcome, but we promised to respect the result and we'll have to do that, and get the least damaging exit deal". Nobody listened to them.

There was a similar thing in Plaid where Adam Price had a rush of blood to the head and thought Plaid could become massively popular by jumping on the second referendum bandwagon, to which Leanne Wood responded (I'm paraphrasing here) "you must be fucking joking, there is no way on earth I can sell that to Rhondda voters".

I'm not making an argument about the merits of Brexit here, just saying there was a point of view that our leaders might have benefited from paying attention to. I think all those people are now out of active politics except for Stephen Kinnock, who was forgiven due to being regime aristocracy.

The point about the consent of the governed is that there has to be a mechanism where the governing class can listen to the people and receive feedback. You can't have a Parliament full of Rory Stewart types telling us what we should be thinking. That way lies disaster.

This shit again.

I am sick to death of leftists sacrificing women and children on the altar of "racial harmony" and other ideological sacred cows. It's a common pattern.

1. It's misogyny to blame a rape victim seeking justice for "hurting the cause". The man who raped her harmed her, which trumps any cause, and he's responsible for any harm that the fallout of his action do to the cause. The First, Third and Tenth Rules Of Misogyny spell this out.
2. It's misogyny to expect women to shut up about rape for the cause.
3. It's men and only men who benefit from women and girls being silenced. It's men who benefitted from the grooming gangs being covered up. Pakistani and Bangladeshi women and children do not benefit from women being silenced and do not benefit from grooming gangs being covered up. Think about it: the kind of men who rape white children aren't going to magically be nice to the women of their own community.

Oh god yes to Rory Stewart types. I think they got it wrong on the run up to Trump too.

I don’t believe the populist term, I think it’s democracy that the status quo institutions fear and don’t want.

I sometimes wonder if populism is the opposite of 'take your nasty medicine and don't argue because we know what's best and you're too thick to understand anything.' Neither of them are a good way to treat people imho.

What did the Celts ever do for us?

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the issue we face now is populism has probably been replaced by the power of the algorithm

<hums free will by Roisin Murphy>

Indeed.

Hear, hear.

'the authorities were concerned about racists using the gangs as a way to sow discord amongst white and Pakistani communities. I feel like that is a sensible concern. Had they dealt with the problem in house, spoken to community leaders and convinced them to deal with the gangs internally, then there would never have been an issue for the far right to jump all over in the first place'

An absolutely chilling statement. God forbid anyone cause discord by talking about abuse, especially women.

What sex are the 'community leaders'?

This entire hypothetical scenario is people by males only. Male gangs, male racists, male community leaders.

The women are just the 'issue', an inconvenient noise banging on about being abused.

If the men had just not raped and abused women, and then failed to investigate, and then actively covered it all up, and then tried to cover up the cover up, that's when there wouldn't have been a fucking 'issue'.

Had they dealt with the problem in house, spoken to community leaders and convinced them to deal with the gangs internally, then there would never have been an issue for the far right to jump all over in the first place.

You honestly think not prosecuting Pakistani rapists of white girls and those that defended those rapists would never have been an issue for the far right? That setting up a very definition of a two tier system where crimes by certain communities are dealt with by ‘community leaders’ whereas white men get imprisoned would be accepted? And what is your evidence that community leaders would deal with the gangs rather than take part in them?

If you wanted to stop grooming gangs being a means by which the far right can sow discord, you come down hard on these rapists and those who cover up for them and deport any foreign nationals involved.

I meant that they should have been punished from within their own community, or if they were to be punished by our own judicial system, then there should have been an injunction on the cases so the prosecutions could have been sealed without the media whipping up racist sentiment.

A lot of people still need to be convinced that multiculturalism is the future for the west and they will never be on board if they get fed narratives about gangs of roving Pakistani men stealing girls from the streets by bad faith actors.

A lot of people still need to be convinced that multiculturalism is the future for the west and they will never be on board if they get fed narratives about gangs of roving Pakistani men stealing girls from the streets by bad faith actors.

That's the Morgan McSweeney school of narrative management in a nutshell.

You honestly think the far right, or most people, would be happy with the Pakistani community operating a parallel (Sharia?) legal system in the UK? and you think having a community that is not accountable under UK law for crimes committed here would convince people multiculturalism is good?

As for your suggestion that the thousands of victims of grooming gangs is simply a narrative spread by bad actors… words fail me.

What sort of multiculturally society would have 'community' based courts and punishments or have people routinely taken to court and punished in secret, without the the public knowing?

Not exactly a liberal democracy.

We already have a situation in Birmingham where West Midlands Police pretty much let Pakistani areas police themselves. We saw this during the riots last year, where white yobs were labelled "far right" and rammed through the criminal justice system at record speed, but gangs of armed and masked Muslim men patrolling central Birmingham was no biggie, nothing to see here.

And this is what causes people to say, if only there had been a Midlands MP in the 1960s predicting this kind of thing.

Are you serious? You support their reasoning to cover it up all in the sake of a false sense of harmony? If people were living harmoniously together you wouldn’t need to cover this up. White girls are deliberately targeted but you twist it to make white people the villains. Unreal.

I can't quite decide if Swift is deliberately trolling us, because there are people who think this way. Which is kind of the problem with our political class.

Labour: PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN

Voters: Hang on, there's a man behind that curtain

Rory Stewart: Today on The Rest Is Politics, Alastair and I will be discussing how we can manage the problem of Vladimir Putin, Elon Musk and other bad faith actors undermining voters' faith in the Wizard

You don’t cover shit up to stop racism.

thats how we end up with Tommy Robinson etc

Why wouldn't they be punished by the British legal system for committing crimes in Britain? What other way should they be punished? Or do they have more rights than the so-called working class Northerner? I'm happy to be corrected but that seems to me to be what you're insinuating. If they'd been stamped on hard as soon as it came out then it wouldn't have got to this stage and we wouldn't have Keir Starmer fudging for all he was worth (Again.)

Posting this again, https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a80c4fded915d74e6230579/The_Casey_Review_Report.pdf

Swift may wish to read this wrt getting the local communities to “get it all done in house”

https://www.womenpolicycentre.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/The-Sharia-Question-REPORT-WPC-25-09-2025.pdf

This sort of community punishment?

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/pakistani-council-orders-revenge-rape-of-16-year-old-girl-idUSKBN1AC1DT/