Muslim charity run

[Thomasina79]

Has banned women and girls over the age of 12 from participating. Thoughts?

Yes. We need to require religion to be practised in line with the law. We don’t allow them to marry children - a recent prosecution underlines that, we shouldn’t allow other j lawful practices.

You are.

You say Sharia courts are not an issue because ‘we’ (non-Muslim Brits) are not subject to them.

Firstly, it doesn’t matter whether every individual in the land would be under the ‘authority’ of a Sharia court or not - extrajudicial courts are damaging to the Rule of Law and should not be allowed.

Secondly, there will be many Muslims subject to them who don’t want to be but feel forced to.

This ‘I’m alright Jack’ attitude is a disgrace.

On a feminism and women’s rights board, I would take ‘we’ to mean women.

Disgraceful. They twat on about “compassion” and “inclusion” but display neither.

Look I don’t want to turn this into some sort of muslim bashing thread, I think muslim women in the UK face higher barriers to things like education, work and now to a fun run and I think thats a bad thing.

I think it’s very much to do with patriarchy and very much to do with men enforcing rules women and using their religion as the reason, I hate to see that shit happening to any woman, anywhere. I don’t want muslim women to think they have to accept this and I think it’s up to the rest of society to say “no we don’t think it’s ok to treat women like this”.

If they had left it open to women and no woman wanted to run thats one thing, specifically telling girls and women they can’t run and lets be honest, because it’s indecent, is another thing.

I haven’t run for ages but I’m tempted to go and run this, wearing whatever the fuck I like, because the law in this country absolutely says I can.

Yes, once they hit puberty they're regarded as women. It's why many Muslim men go after younger girls in the west. They're not allowed date though or have sex before marriage. Although this rule may be broken by some Muslim men when it's a non Muslim girl. They take it as the rule doesn't apply in this case. It's up to each family (or sometimes Muslim country) what age they are allowed to marry

Complain direct to the charity

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I’m appalled. This is the UK. Not Saudi bloody Arabia or wherever fucking segregation is the norm. We CANNOT start normalising the subjugation of women. It makes me sick to my stomach to be quite frank.

I’m of Indian origin (before accusations of racism start getting thrown) and DEEPLY concerned with what the fuck is happening in this country.

Women are treated like shit in the majority of places in this world. It cannot be tolerated here. I just hope this is not a slippery slope…

I try to be open-minded etc but that's just vile. All their "open to everyone" guff and then women aren't allowed but they can come to cheer the men on? Thanks a lot bro.

Just go and walk and carry a sign

It is shocking really in this day and age. It's in the UK too. It is their race though 🤔

There’s nothing funny about this.

Are you suggesting that because one bad thing is happening, we should keep quiet and turn a blind eye to a different bad thing happening? That’s a weird generalisation about ‘Daily Mail men’ btw.

Fucking hell, never have I seen such a desperate, sustained campaign of whataboutery and deflection. Well done @ThatSpryShaker

So Muslim men are not British?

Girls over 12 and women are excluded but they can clap and cheer! No problem with that then?

Yet girls under 12 can run.

Are some of us so terrified of being seen as anti-Muslim that we will defend anything on their part.

If you replaced the word Muslim with Catholic would the regulations of this run still be ok?

Who’s up for CRASHING this race? Walk or run it. I don’t live nearby or I would.

Well if you know the answer, why not just tell us? I'd like to know too.

I fucking take issue with the basic premise that women are excluded due to the fact they are sexual beings (sorry didn’t mean to quote you)

@ThatSpryShaker you're not coming across as very smart here. It doesn't matter whether you consider there to be adequate provision across the country for Muslim women and teenage girls to run. The fact remains that it is unethical (and probably illegal) for any event to exclude them. If I decide not to let gay people into my cake shop it doesn't matter that there's other cake shops. I'm still not allowed to do it. With good reason.

@ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird - you want to live where people’s beliefs are tolerated even if distasteful to you?

I think you’ll find that quite a few “distasteful” practices are actually illegal in this country. I don’t want to live where “tolerance” means turning a blind eye to child marriage and indeed the subjugation and exclusion of women.

It's also interesting that that poster doesn't seem to think Muslims can be British.

I'm also starting to get a bit tired of the "YOU DISAGREE YOU MUST READ THE DAILY MAIL" stuff. It's starting to sound very adolescent. All news sources have a bias and an agenda and the only way to get as fair an impression as possible is to read a broad range of them and try to be equally critical of them all. We all have our own biases too, of course, so none of us will get it totally right, but it's starting to feel so lazy and student politics-y to me to just throw out that you hate the Mail and think that must mean that you're right.

How is that supposed to work, 2 objects occupying the same space at the same time?
If a liberal, tolerant, pluralistic society plays host to communities that not only reject its values but actively practice customs that undermine them, how can they coexist within the same national framework?
At what point does pluralism collapse under the weight of irreconcilable worldviews?

Complain to - email the Mayor at [email protected]

Excellent points. 👍

The race could have been a male only race.

Its the inclusion of pre pubescent girls into a male race that is concerning.