Muslim charity run

[Thomasina79]

Has banned women and girls over the age of 12 from participating. Thoughts?

Are you from Rotherham too? Or do you think you know me in real life?

But the reason why women and girls over 12 are excluded from the Fun Run is because of Islam.

So of course we will discuss attitudes to women and girls within Islam.

Being a 'feminist Muslim' is an oxymoron.

Islamic law states that the weight of a woman's testimony is half that of a man. And a daughter inherits only half of what a son is entitled to. Men can have four wives. A woman can have only one husband.

A man can marry a Jewish/Christian woman, because as the Head of the Household all children will be raised Muslim. A woman can only marry a Muslim man. So a Jewish/Christian man would have to convert to Islam to marry a Muslim woman to ensure the children are raised as Muslim. As the man makes all important decisions.

It is possible to be a liberal Muslim. Where she chooses to obey the laws and customs in the UK, such as having a civil as well as a religious marriage, freely choosing her (wholly unrelated) husband, and making close friends of people outside of her immediate family and the local Muslim community. She may even refuse to cover her head outside of a Mosque!

But being a 'feminist' Muslim is like being a vegan who regularly buys food at McDonalds. She may only eat the fries and veggie burger, but if she looks around, what does she see and hear?

How would she square her beliefs on women's equality with men, with only women having to cover their faces and the exclusion of all women and girls from the main beautiful prayer hall of a mosque. Typically females and young children are relegated to small shabby back rooms.

The cognitive dissonance must be very unpleasant.

Not from Rotherham, from East Lancashire. Don't know you in real life. Identify a lot with your post

Ah I get you.
I can completely understand why people who didn’t grow up in towns like Rotherham, Rochdale, etc could never believe that such lawlessness exists, but it isn’t half infuriating.

Yes, it was describing a society consisting of entirely separate groups that 'leave each other alone'. If you don't see an issue with that, I'm not sure what to say really. I guess it's better than open conflict.

In Sikhism there is no edict that tells women to obey their husbands or places men as the head of the household etc. menstruation is not seen as being in any way an impurity (this is in the religious context of India at the time and was revolutionary for the time) etc etc. All women regardless of whether they are sikh or not should be granted the same courtesy you show your sister, mother or daughter. Marriage is a partnership not submission, so not all religions oppress women.

Cultural habits which promote misogyny however are very real and those views should be challenged wherever they are found.

That's the age a female is considered responsible for their religious actions (not considered an adult which is a legal thing). Same as in Judaism and many other religions.

Awards were presented to the fastest runners by Lutfur Rahman, the mayor of Tower Hamlets, who praised the event and hoped it would continue to grow.

When asked what he thought about women being excluded, he said: “What is important is that they have brought communities together. There is no room for criticism. There’s room for celebration and congratulating the fact that youngsters from a very young age to an elder who is 94 participated.”

https://archive.ph/t6HH7

There is no room for criticism?????

Celebrating the exclusion of women???

This ain't Saudi Arabia

“There is no room for criticism?????”

To be fair, it’s been a very effective slogan for the last 30 years.

No room for criticism? 🥴 What a fool.

Lutfur Rahman has been elected again as the Executive Mayor of Tower Hamlets Council, following the expiry of a five-year ban from running for office after he was found guilty of corrupt and illegal practices in 2015.
Rahman of the Aspire party was re-elected last week (5 May 2022) after receiving a total of 40,804 votes, beating the Labour candidate, John Biggs, by more than 7,000 votes.
He previously held the mayoral post from 2010 to 2015 until Richard Mawrey QC, sitting in the Election Court, concluded Rahman had "driven a coach and horses" through election law.
The 2014 election of Mayor for Tower Hamlets had to be re-run following the decision, and the court made an order banning Rahman from standing for office for five years.

https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/50466-former-mayor-of-tower-hamlets-re-elected-after-five-year-ban

Should have been permanent

Exactly. What good is a 5 year ban on someone so blatantly corrupt? He should never have been allowed to stand.

We are throwing our democracy away for these men.

Unbelievable.

Let’s get this race cancelled. Everyone complain to Mayor

The Muslim mayor who told us to expect terrorist events

We should complain anyway because the event is illegal and breaches equality act

No it wasn’t, it was talking about a specific area where white people go out drinking and eating S Asian food, and where the mainly Bengali Muslim population use other shops and businesses in the same place. Both groups coexisting. Which is mainly what we do everywhere. We coexist. When you get on a train do you greet every person on it? Say hello to every other diner in a restaurant? Do you get upset that other people in your postcode area don’t all like exactly the same leisure activities as you? Or do you mainly not notice because you’re going about your business?

So long as when it’s needed people can support each other - in a crisis, a pandemic or an emergency - then what’s the problem? I don’t like there now but when I lived at either end of Brick Lane it was friendly and calm, I used the Bengali and Turkish shops near me, but of course the Muslim people I worked with didn’t come to the pub. Were we ‘atomised’?

The race was this morning so good luck with that.

Thank you for correcting me, I should have been more precise.

You co exist but don't integrate.

So why come to the UK.

‘You’? I don’t know who you’re directing your question to.

Most of the Bengali people in that area are 2nd or 3rd generation. A significant number (probably a majority) of white people in that area are from other parts of the UK and moved there in the last decade.

So who is failing to integrate?

And again, what do you even mean by integration? Does everyone have to do everything the same to be considered an integrated community? How incredibly dull.

Work. Marry outside your own race. Teach your children English. Don't marry your cousin. Respect and follow the rules of the land..... Ie don't have a race where a female who's 13 isn't allowed to exercise. This isn't Afghanistan

Why have you assumed that people don’t speak English? They do. English is widely spoken in Bangladesh so ‘teaching your children’ is hardly unusual. Not every single person in an area supports the mad rules of a religion, any more than all white people think it’s ok to cover up child abuse in the church. Cousin marriage is declining precisely because of integration. All these things I know because I speak to people who don’t look like me. Maybe you need to get out more.

What are you going on about? I’ve just told you that learning English at home is very common, and that many of the population of TH are 2nd or 3rd gen.

Clearly this one race means all minorities are living by their own rules. 🤪

The rest if your post is just nonsense. Get some sleep, you’ll feel better.