Kelly v Leonardo Employment Tribunal Thread 2

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Ms BM Kelly v Leonardo UK Limited Employment Tribunal – hearing Case number: 8001497/2024

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Abbreviations:
C or MK - Claimant, Maria Kelly
NC - Naomi Cunningham, barrister for C
KW - Katy Wedderburn, solicitor for C
R or L - Respondent. Leonardo UK
ST - Susanne Tanner KC, barrister for R
J - Judge
P - Panel member
GC - gender critical
GI - gender identity
AL - Andrew R Letton VP People Shared Services Leonardo - respondent witness

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Thread 1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5416903-kelly-v-leonardo-employment-tribunal-29th-september-10am?page=1

We need to crowdfund some noise cancelling microphones that can be provided to all important tribs!

Lost picture now, just a black screen with an observer's name!

I'm in the room, just asking others - can you see me (I think my camera etc are off but always a bit worried about being on screen!)

If you join as observer your camera and mic are automatically off.

Yes, it's OK. We've had that at the start of previous days.

The crossed out camera means it's off.

Edit - it might be a good idea to edit your post to remove that person's name.

I did, thanks, just checking.
Blank screen here too.

Good advice. I’ll do that.

I wonder are they horse-trading in a smoke-filled room, is that why they haven't started?

TT -
[The livestream has shut down again - not sure what is happening]
edited to say that that's what TT themselves are saying, not me.

I didn’t know that.

Sadly sold out at the moment, but I will bear it in mind, thanks.

It explains a lot though!

At least in Sandies when you couldn't hear them it usually meant they hadn't switched it on or the cable wasn't connected.

Please don’t name other observers on MN or anywhere else

I was thinking it was fingers crossed she'll run out of money, with a dash of 'can't see what she's complaining about so they're bound to be on our side, and a sprinkle of 'Who's Naomi Cunningham when she's at home?' They're now finding out the answer.

I think it's too late to edit the posts with the name in,

As I quoted one of them I've reported my own post to have it removed.

A message from the clerk has appeared in the chat to say they are having a private case management hearing before today's proceedings.

Ready for Naomi to make mincemeat out of the witness.

Wireless microphones can be very good, and they’re a lot easier to wrangle in an old building where wiring isn’t fitted. Maybe these ones just aren’t very good, or aren’t set up properly?

I can smell the smoke from the English Midlands.

Either that or someone is having a bonfire, despite the fact that it's pouring with rain.

@CriticalCondition You must be in a different room to me then, as nothing has appeared on my one. Thank you for the info.

Thanks. I don't have that on mine.

I'm growing restless. Might need to break out the biscuits.

Aren't they likely just sorting out a date for final submissions?

Aha. That sounds like legalese for horse-trading in a smoky room
Thanks, CC, nothing has come up about it on TT yet.

edited to say yes I KNOW horse-trading does NOT take place in smoky rooms, OK?😏

I think if you have quite a few of them all on at the same time, they can interfere with each other.