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Barbie Kardashian is being released.

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Authenticgreekyogurt · 01/10/2025 10:06

Just at trigger warning that there are some graphic details in this article.
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/security-alert-as-transgender-inmate-barbie-kardashian-to-be-released-from-prison/a1646874413.html?s=08
This is terrifying news for women in Ireland.
Barbie spent time in the female prison and was eventually moved after making threats to rape, torture and murder female inmates and prison officers.

In other news Ireland is celebrating the 10th anniversary of Self ID this week.
Barbie Kardashian is legally a woman in Ireland and cannot be legally refused access to female spaces.
https://x.com/BirdyBooky/status/1973295859514085857?t=NOuPICmsfJoKHwAJxoophw&s=19

Security alert as transgender inmate Barbie Kardashian to be released from prison

Transgender prisoner Barbie Kardashian is set to walk free after serving a sentence for threatening to rape, torture and kill her own mother.

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/security-alert-as-transgender-inmate-barbie-kardashian-to-be-released-from-prison/a1646874413.html?s=08

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WarriorN · 02/10/2025 09:52

Conversation on twix last night:

Barbie Kardashian is being released.
lcakethereforeIam · 02/10/2025 10:34

That interview! He seems quite personable if you ignore what he looks like and what he's saying😳How on earth did he wind up on the ground. Was he trying to pose for the camera and fall on his arse? I suspect this was a big moment for him, hence the clothes and the slap. Possibly even the spiel, give his public what they want. He's probably been used to getting lots of attention behind bars, from the guards and the other prisoners. One lot trying to keep him safe, stop him hurting others. Then there's the court cases for shit he's said that he escaped punishment for but which gave him lots of attention. The other lot, well if nothing else he would be a diversion from the prison. I'm not sure how he'll cope outside that bubble. Aside from the cowardly attack on the social worker, it seems he's been mostly violent talk. With the attention off him, if that's what motivates him now, wtf will he do? Unless he's much brighter than he seems I can't see him transitioning to a normal life. He's show he's capable of violence but all the talk of rape and torture has been, so far, just talk although credible enough to see him jailed. I do hope for everyone's sake that he's getting help. That the mad clown on the street is something he's put on. That the 'real' person isn't someone worse.

MoltenLasagne · 02/10/2025 10:55

AnSolas · 02/10/2025 09:47

Ireland has very strong personal rights which he used to prevent himself being sectioned.

And at this stage it is a "waiting game" of a "convictable" offence to happen as the State failed to prove its last case

FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS

PERSONAL RIGHTS

ARTICLE 40
1 All citizens shall, as human persons, be held equal before the law.
This shall not be held to mean that the State shall not in its enactments have due regard to differences of capacity, physical and moral, and of social function.

2 1° -' 2° -

3 1° The State guarantees in its laws to respect, and, as far as practicable, by its laws to defend and vindicate the personal rights of the citizen.
2° The State shall, in particular, by its laws protect as best it may from unjust attack and, in the case of injustice done, vindicate the life, person, good name, and property rights of every citizen.

3° --

4 1° No citizen shall be deprived of his personal liberty save in accordance with law.

4 2° Upon complaint being made by or on behalf of any person to the High Court or any judge thereof alleging that such person is being unlawfully detained, the High Court and any and every judge thereof to whom such complaint is made shall forthwith enquire into the said complaint and may order the person in whose custody such person is detained to produce the body of such person before the High Court on a named day and to certify in writing the grounds of his detention, and the High Court shall, upon the body of such person being produced before that Court and after giving the person in whose custody he is detained an opportunity of justifying the detention, order the release of such person from such detention unless satisfied that he is being detained in accordance with the law.

4 3° Where the body of a person alleged to be unlawfully detained is produced before the High Court in pursuance of an order in that behalf made under this section and that Court is satisfied that such person is being detained in accordance with a law but that such law is invalid having regard to the provisions of this Constitution, the High Court shall refer the question of the validity of such law to the Court of Appeal by way of case stated and may, at the time of such reference or at any time thereafter, allow the said person to be at liberty on such bail and subject to such conditions as the High Court shall fix until the Court of Appeal has determined the question so referred to it.

4 4° The High Court before which the body of a person alleged to be unlawfully detained is to be produced in pursuance of an order in that behalf made under this section shall, if the President of the High Court or, if he is not available, the senior judge of that Court who is available so directs in respect of any particular case, consist of three judges and shall, in every other case, consist of one judge only.

4 5° -

4 6° Provision may be made by law for the refusal of bail by a court to a person charged with a serious offence where it is reasonably considered necessary to prevent the commission of a serious offence by that person.

5 -

6 1° The State guarantees liberty for the exercise of the following rights, subject to public order and morality: –

6 1°i The right of the citizens to express freely their convictions and opinions.
The education of public opinion being, however, a matter of such grave import to the common good, the State shall endeavour to ensure that organs of public opinion, such as the radio, the press, the cinema, while preserving their rightful liberty of expression, including criticism of Government policy, shall not be used to undermine public order or morality or the authority of the State.
The publication or utterance of seditious or indecent matter is an offence which shall be punishable in accordance with law.

6 1°ii -

6 1°iii -

Thank you, that is very informative. I must admit I'm equally as ignorant about the letter of UK law as well, so don't really know how it compares. Is there an equivalent to 4.6 related to parole?

4 6° Provision may be made by law for the refusal of bail by a court to a person charged with a serious offence where it is reasonably considered necessary to prevent the commission of a serious offence by that person.

I'm just frankly baffled that any person can be released from prison while vocally announcing their intention to commit more serious crimes that they were thwarted in doing the first time round. I fully appreciate due process must be followed, but he's making credible threats of violence!

worksineducation · 02/10/2025 11:14

I'm increasingly convinced that the balance of criminal's rights vs normal people's rights to be safe is now vastly and dangerously skewed towards the criminal such that essentially in many cases the state will only act once murder has happened. Wayne Couzens one example of this - he actually committed a crime (indecent exposure) that was reported right before he murdered Sarah but the police did nothing - if he'd been arrested for this Sarah may be alive now.

Unless of course it's a tweet criticising this state of affairs, in which case, throw them in prison!

BettyBooper · 02/10/2025 11:29

Boiledbeetle · 01/10/2025 22:50

"If I can't find my parents I will murder..." then the clip cuts out.

Nice bloke isn't he!

The only small positive in this is he is absolutely revelling in the limelight and has no concerns about saying exactly what he intends to do on camera.

Unfortunately, the negative is that the authorities seem completely incompetent in taking his threats seriously.

AnSolas · 02/10/2025 11:39

lcakethereforeIam · 02/10/2025 10:34

That interview! He seems quite personable if you ignore what he looks like and what he's saying😳How on earth did he wind up on the ground. Was he trying to pose for the camera and fall on his arse? I suspect this was a big moment for him, hence the clothes and the slap. Possibly even the spiel, give his public what they want. He's probably been used to getting lots of attention behind bars, from the guards and the other prisoners. One lot trying to keep him safe, stop him hurting others. Then there's the court cases for shit he's said that he escaped punishment for but which gave him lots of attention. The other lot, well if nothing else he would be a diversion from the prison. I'm not sure how he'll cope outside that bubble. Aside from the cowardly attack on the social worker, it seems he's been mostly violent talk. With the attention off him, if that's what motivates him now, wtf will he do? Unless he's much brighter than he seems I can't see him transitioning to a normal life. He's show he's capable of violence but all the talk of rape and torture has been, so far, just talk although credible enough to see him jailed. I do hope for everyone's sake that he's getting help. That the mad clown on the street is something he's put on. That the 'real' person isn't someone worse.

He has a history of delayed ambush attacks while in care/ Oberstown (?). Court records said that he was taken into care for abuse/attacking his mother the care management was in a "single" unit (so likely deemed a danger to other children). Then detention management policy was that he had to have a minimum of 5 male staff/PO on site and no women PO were to be assigned (assuming to protect the male staff from attack and if one was attacked to have 3/4 males on hand to be able to safely overpower him )

A criminal history pre 18 is supressed under the Irish Childrens Act and Tusla (Irish child SS) have written a takedown notice to every newspaper and SM outlet so a reporter is risking a criminal record and their personal assets while fighting the State agency which is tax funded.

His history became a matter of public record via a High Court action after he was 18 and therefore imo Tusla staff were overreaching with the Act.

MidnightMeltdown · 02/10/2025 11:50

ChangingWeight · 01/10/2025 10:56

I clicked on this thinking it was about a literal Barbie doll styled after the Kardashians being released. It’s bizarre that people can change their name to mimic trademarked brands. Especially criminals.

Yep, I expected to see a Barbie doll version of Kim Kardashian. Instead I see that horror in clown makeup.

Signalbox · 02/10/2025 11:51

Authenticgreekyogurt · 01/10/2025 10:31

No, it was reported in the past that he isn't technically insane. He was assessed as being highly manipulative and cunning. He can also be very charming.
But very very dangerous, especially towards women.
While in custody he attacked his female social worker in the car on returning from court, gouging her eyes with his long nails, causing serious injuries to her.
He is an example of everything that is wrong with Self ID. Anyone can just declare themselves a woman. No safeguards are in place.
But in Ireland,the government and it's opposition parties fully support Self ID and are looking at making non binary a legally recognised gender.

No, it was reported in the past that he isn't technically insane

I honestly don’t understand this. He’s clearly off his rocker. They love widening the diagnostic criteria for all sorts of conditions to include almost everyone. Except for when you have clearly insane people who obviously pose a risk to others and continually make threats of obscene violence but they can’t be locked up because technically they aren’t insane. Well widen the diagnosis of insanity then before this nutter rapes or murders someone! The same thing happened with Axel Rudakubana and look where that ended.

lcakethereforeIam · 02/10/2025 11:54

He reminds me of that 'Tiffany' guy, who claimed to be a woman, who died in a Scottish prison last year. Was being prepared for being moved to the women's prison before the Isla Bryson shit show saw it cancelled.

AutumnyCrow · 02/10/2025 12:08

Is there anything to stop him moving around Ireland and/or the Common Travel Area?

I can’t work out if he even has to report to any authority or check in anywhere, live at a specific address, etc, and for how long.

AnSolas · 02/10/2025 12:24

MoltenLasagne · 02/10/2025 10:55

Thank you, that is very informative. I must admit I'm equally as ignorant about the letter of UK law as well, so don't really know how it compares. Is there an equivalent to 4.6 related to parole?

4 6° Provision may be made by law for the refusal of bail by a court to a person charged with a serious offence where it is reasonably considered necessary to prevent the commission of a serious offence by that person.

I'm just frankly baffled that any person can be released from prison while vocally announcing their intention to commit more serious crimes that they were thwarted in doing the first time round. I fully appreciate due process must be followed, but he's making credible threats of violence!

The State has to be careful
It already lost a case where be made threats to a PO and an female prisioner.
It was a Jury trial over a number of days and even he was suprised that he ended up with a not guilty verdict. (Per my prior post he explained in graphic detail how he would carry out the attack )

To get bail one must first be lawfully arrested and the police had no grounds to arrest him before he made the statements. Even then the DPP (Irish CPS) need to be able to present a case that 12 members of the general public will agree it meets the benchmark of "more likely than not to happen".

so I suspect that the police will have to hold off making any early arrest as it would likely create legal issues in that he could sue the State and may win but more important would create a narrative that the police are "out to get him" (and this did happen to a family/community in Donegal cost the taxpayers €11m to 55 individuals)

Signalbox · 02/10/2025 12:36

Isn’t he out on licence? Surely he will be recalled to prison on the basis he’s just made multiple threats to murder and rape upon his release.

Lottapianos · 02/10/2025 12:49

Just listened to the podcast. What a very strange and grim listen it was

Barbie rambling on about wanting surgery and to be a prostitute and a pornstar reminded me of my 8 year old nephew going on about wanting to be a Premier League footballer - same level of childish fantasy and immaturity. Not remotely surprised that his view of women is all to do with fetishizing body parts and being used and abused

Paddy did a v good job of asking challenging questions in a 'more sorrow than anger' tone. He was clearly horrified and v disturbed by what he saw and heard

Authenticgreekyogurt · 02/10/2025 13:08

JaquelineHide · 02/10/2025 12:12

That's one of the most disturbing interviews I have ever listened to.
Every single word he uttered was just chilling.
Paddy O'Gorman deserves an award for how he was able to handle it.

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AnSolas · 02/10/2025 13:20

Signalbox
Oddly enough the whole insanity detention sparked a wholesale reform of the Irish MH Acts.

(Pre divorce so pre 1995 ) a womans family had to go to court to have her removed from a MH lock-up unit. Her husband had arranged with a Doctor to see her argue with her husband in public and the numpty signes the paperwork. They sucessfully argued that a court has to ratify the decision to lock someone up.

Now the courts have to rule on detentions and sanity and technically most* * insane persons can not be guilty of a crime as they lack the mental capacity to have a "guilty mind". And the person could murder and be a nutter during the act but recovered and let go by the time the trial is finished or at any time there after. (Sligo hospital car park case where man left the MH unit then shot (?) his ex-girlfriend her mum/aunt (?) and missed (?) her Dad/brother (?) and was sectioned and was freed as doctors said he was sane).

TLDR summary is : he had a trial and the doctors could not prove he was nuts.

AutumnyCrow
Technically the passport office is not obliged to issue a passport (act below) which would limit his travel to the UK.

He is still with in his conviction term as the suspeded part applies so the Court may have imposed conditions on travel or notifications to the police.

On the broader issue the UK and Irish police forces have exchanged information on dangerous people as they have a number of suspected serial rapist/murderers who are believed to have offended in both countries

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2008/act/4/section/12/enacted/en/html

Refusal to issue passport.
12.— (1) The Minister shall refuse to issue a passport to a person if—
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(a) the Minister is not satisfied that the person is an Irish citizen,
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(b) the Minister is not satisfied as to the identity of the person,
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(c) the person would be likely in the opinion of the Minister, after consultation, where appropriate, with the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform or the Minister for Defence or both, to engage in conduct that—
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(i) might prejudice national security or the security of another state,
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(ii) might endanger public safety or order,
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(iii) would be contrary to the common good, or
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(iv) might endanger that person or others,
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(d) the Minister has been notified by the Courts Service that a court in the State has ordered the person (including by way of a condition of a recognisance entered into by the person admitting him or her to bail under the Bail Act 1997 ) to surrender any passport in his or her possession or, if he or she is not in possession of a passport, to refrain from applying for a passport for so long as the order is in force,

Passports Act 2008, Section 12

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2008/act/4/section/12/enacted/en/html

WarriorN · 02/10/2025 14:01

Jfc I’m listening now

BettyBooper · 02/10/2025 14:47

Authenticgreekyogurt · 02/10/2025 13:08

That's one of the most disturbing interviews I have ever listened to.
Every single word he uttered was just chilling.
Paddy O'Gorman deserves an award for how he was able to handle it.

I'm only 8 mins in and 😱.

BK says 'its good I got away with it' (re charges of rape threats) 'otherwise I'd still be in prison now'.

WTAF.

And says clearly that he intends to kill his parents if he can find them.

And people are going to prison for tweets. This is insane.

CalzoneOnLegs · 02/10/2025 14:49

What an absolutely ridiculous name he has chosen, it’s just embarrassing.

Lottapianos · 02/10/2025 15:18

It's a sickening listen but I did laugh out loud at 'is your dog ok with other dogs? Coz I wouldn't want to cause a scene'

😮😮😮🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤯🤯🤯

BettyBooper · 02/10/2025 16:59

Lottapianos · 02/10/2025 15:18

It's a sickening listen but I did laugh out loud at 'is your dog ok with other dogs? Coz I wouldn't want to cause a scene'

😮😮😮🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤯🤯🤯

I know! It was kind of like listening to two different people. He was polite and respectful one minute (second) and then saying horrific things the next, but in such a matter-of-fact way.

I imagine he can be very captivating and charming in a weird sense.

Unfortunately, I imagine he'd get a lot of followers on social media should he decide to do that.

Which is a horrifying thought.

Although I thought the podcast was important, I'm concerned about what happens next tbh.

AnSolas · 02/10/2025 17:06

BettyBooper · 02/10/2025 14:47

I'm only 8 mins in and 😱.

BK says 'its good I got away with it' (re charges of rape threats) 'otherwise I'd still be in prison now'.

WTAF.

And says clearly that he intends to kill his parents if he can find them.

And people are going to prison for tweets. This is insane.

Imagine being one of that jury ...

MarieDeGournay · 02/10/2025 17:11

Here's a report from when BK was sent to prison:

A probation service pre-sentence report cited “major concerns that the accused is unrepentant about their threats to kill or cause serious harm to their mother”, the judge said.

“The report concludes the accused is at high risk of not just re-offending, but also about committing serious crimes.”
Judge O’Donnell said the court had a “major concern” about Kardashian’s movements after prison.
He said the probation service had stated that it was “incumbent on the State services and associated medical services to get involved and try and come to some long-term solution” in respect of Kardashian.
The judge said five psychiatrists assessed Kardashian and that “all five” believed there was a “real danger” Kardashian would follow through on “fantasies” of rape and murder
In summing up, Judge O’Donnell said: “One can only hope that the relevant State agencies take heed of the stark warning contained in the probation officer’s reports.”
Barbie Kardashian released from prison despite ‘grave concerns’ over ‘threat to public’

So the Judge saw how dangerous BK is, and was very clear about it.
I'm not clear how BK came to be released under licence - I know his sentence was backdated to 2022 for time served, so that's 3 years of a 5 year sentence, and if the last 12 months was suspended [Why?] .. that still doesn't explain why he was let out early.

StElwicksNeighbourhoodAssociation · 02/10/2025 17:14

Jesus, Barbie has been well versed in trans hasn't he? It's almost like a bingo card. Horrific listen but also so bizarre. His obsession with being a porn star and genitalia, I wonder how much of this comes from the childhood abuse he suffered?

BettyBooper · 02/10/2025 17:27

StElwicksNeighbourhoodAssociation · 02/10/2025 17:14

Jesus, Barbie has been well versed in trans hasn't he? It's almost like a bingo card. Horrific listen but also so bizarre. His obsession with being a porn star and genitalia, I wonder how much of this comes from the childhood abuse he suffered?

Very true.

I also noticed the 'my unmet needs' comment, which is straight from the social work book.

I'm not blaming social workers at all, but noticing that the language gets used and absorbed.