Always been GC, but now afraid I'm becoming transphobic

[HouseOfGuineaPigs]

I've always been gender critical and 100% in support of safe spaces for natal women only. I'm completely comfortable with being gender critical. But I'm concerned I've crossed a line into becoming a full on bigot, which is something I don't want to be. Due to my own background of mental health and trauma issues I follow pages on this issue on Facebook. I just saw one with a graphic post saying Using Preferred Pronouns Is Suicide Prevention and it made me want to scream and throw things.

I've been suicidal, I've attempted. I've battled see harm and self destructive behaviours since childhood. I should be sympathetic about the struggles people are having . But I feel manipulated seeing posts like that one. I use preferred names when I'm addressing trans persons. I am kind to them, I don't mention their issues. I treat them the same as anyone else. I will call a bloke Sue even if his real name is Bob, it feels odd, but I will do it to be respectful . But calling a he a she is a step too far. I would either use their name or use they.

Why do I feel so strongly that I'm being manipulated ? None of the trans people I know have abused me in any way. They haven't infringed on my boundaries . I have 2 trans friends, another who is non binary and 2 acquaintances. They have all been decent .

I just feel resentful that I'm being made to feel responsible for someone not taking their life because I don't affirm their identity ?

I'm horrible aren't I ? Please sort my head out !

That's a lie. I said that there is no.evidence bsse to.supprt that the babies of trans maternity users are at any elevated risk just because they are trans. There may be some things to consider like how medications they have taken may effect the pregnancy, but that goes for anyone who has taken regular medication or drugs around conception or during pregnancy.

There is no.evixence base that recommends insisting to trans men that they are women or must be called she or they will have a worst outcome.. in fact, there is evidence stating the opposite.

Giving holistic care to pregnant trans men that doesnt challnge their self identity wont put their babies at risk, nor other people's babies at risk. I get that you want us to really punish them and stop them from both being trans and being parents, but there is no need for us to do that.

Obviously so called “trans men” must have maternity care, because they aren’t actually men.

I get called transphobic

I reject it as meaningful

I do not hate or wish harm to people who feel they are transgender, I just believe they are deluded

Sex is real, gender identity is not, trans people are the sex they were born and always will be, sex is what makes you a man or a woman and thus determines which spaces, services etc you have access to and there is no need to Be Kind and pretend you believe in the delusions of those who insist their feelings trump reality. I hope trans people get the help they need but I don't think the agree with me as to what that helps is.

I am really not being ridiculous. People wouldn't want their trans friends to be excluded from safe maternity care and they mean emotionally safe

The trans users that need maternity care are women!!

I haven't met a single one. And I can guarantee that any woman who accepts it in principle would change their mind if Isla Bryson walked into the loos behind them.

There are no "trans friends', just friends who have extreme mental health problems.

You're being hysterical.

They don't identify that way and the people who would protest for them would also see them as not-women. Most of those people would be women who everyone would agree are women
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So nobody has a trans friend? They are all.jhst extremely mentally ill people who arent friends to anyone? And I'm the hysterical one?

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I posit that anyone who believes TWAW are neither sane or rational.

Even if they would (no idea who that is btw), most would want trans men to be welcomed at breastfeeding and antenatal classes. And that's the point.

What is the difference between someone who feels 'sick and wrong' because they have a penis, and one who feels who feels 'sick and wrong' because they have 2 legs, or who feels 'sick and wrong' because they have a normal BMI?

Two and three are recognised as mental illnesses. Why do you think the first one is not?

I disagree. I would absolutely campaign for transmen to use maternity services. Why wouldn't I? They're female and it's a service for females.

Nobody actually thinks they are men.

I think the current posters can continue to make my points for me like Ivy is doing marvelously.

You’ve misunderstood my post entirely. And are grossly misrepresenting my views on trans-identifying individuals. Please don’t do that.

What I do think is that it is dangerous for practitioners in evidence-based professions to adopt and affirm beliefs like gender identity ideology. It offers no benefits to anyone, and in the long term will undermine the credibility of the profession and of science itself.

It's not polite to gaslight women to ignore our eyes and lived experiences as the oppressed sex to indulge a fantasy. It is not polite to coerce the oppressed to call the oppressor the oppressed. Just as it would not be polite of Rachel Dolezal to expect white people to participate in her cosplay and call her African American.

The oppressor does not get to tell the oppressed to adopt them as their own.

Sane and rational people don't believe 'feeling like a woman' makes a man a woman

Oh we have been complaining loudly for years, so much so that the NHS has been ordered to change everything back to the way it was and use the words woman, women, girls and mother instead of the dehumanising terms like pregnant person, birthing person, cervix haver/person with a cervix and bleeders etc.
And yes btw pregnant women do care about this and again have been saying so for years.
By claiming that no-ones complained you are showing how little listen to or care about what women in general want or say and clearly paints you as a misogynist

So you believe that the only way to provide safe care to a pregnant trans man is to.chsllnege their gender identity in maternity appointments and if they refuse to drop it and identify as a woman, refer them to social services, is that about right?

Most people said they are fine with pregnant women and people

I will not give them any emergency care until I ascertain they identify in ways I totally agree with. Not even taking their pulse until they tell me whether they are British or English. Anyone with the wrong.answer will get a psychiatric assessment before anything else.

Its funny that all examples are about men being women. I am pretty sure there are more trans and NB people who are biologically female than there are biological males. I dont know why I know that but I'm pretty sure I've heard this figure..for.the UK at least