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JK on Emma Watson

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Lowarnes · 29/09/2025 13:08

A stunningly perfect response to Watson’s recent comments. Haven’t seen a thread on this so thought I’d post below:

”I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.”

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2021x · 30/09/2025 10:01

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 09:55

No, this is a very disingenuous take.

She's saying that someone like Emma, wealthy and privileged for all of her life, has not made any effort to understand what single sex spaces mean to women who don't have her advantages.

Emma will never find herself in public changing rooms with predatory men. She'll never end up in a domestic violence refuge that she has to share with a man. She'll never have to accept intimate care from a man on an nhs ward. She has no clue what other women go through and that's what makes her stance so hard to take.

Right but it’s possible she is wrong.

Emma might have taken a lot of time to do this and come to a different conclusion.

Emma has spent time with young TG women and overly sympathised with them. She is working in entertainment where there is a much higher percentage of LGBT etc… people and lower boundaries around fluidity, Something that JKR didn’t have experience of at that age.

ThatCyanCat · 30/09/2025 10:02

What have death and rape threats got to do with childish jabs on twitter and award shows?

Well you'd hope that a friend and good person who had that platform would use it to condemn death and rape threats...

It's interesting seeing all the different ways these people try to make the avalanche of death and rape threats somehow irrelevant to the issue.

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:02

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 09:58

She's disagreeing because Emma has calmly thrown vulnerable women under the bus.

I disagree I think she was trying to make sense of a very confusing issue from her perspective, and just got it wrong, very publically.

WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 30/09/2025 10:02

Howseitgoin · 30/09/2025 04:23

Yup, but it works both ways. Ever heard of Horse Shoe theory?

Call for Papers!!!!

The First Annual International Symposium on Nut Theory & Female Safeguarding
Hosted by the Institute for Applied Common Sense, 2025

Keynote Lecture
The Don’t Pick Your Nuts in the Female Bathroom Principle
Prof. J. K. Reality (University of Lived Experience)

Establishes the foundational truth that no rhetorical gymnastics (Motte & Bailey, Horseshoe, Hairy Nut-Picking, The Macadamia Mirage) entitles a man to unzip in women’s spaces.

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:04

ThatCyanCat · 30/09/2025 10:02

What have death and rape threats got to do with childish jabs on twitter and award shows?

Well you'd hope that a friend and good person who had that platform would use it to condemn death and rape threats...

It's interesting seeing all the different ways these people try to make the avalanche of death and rape threats somehow irrelevant to the issue.

You are right she could have called it out publically rather than sending a personal note instead. Maybe that’s the next thing she can address.

QuestioningQuorn · 30/09/2025 10:05

BeGladFish · 30/09/2025 09:18

I'd like to note in defense of the class of 2006 that A was the top grade we could get in A level at the time (A* grades didn't come into A levels until a few years later, but were there for GCSE).

Absolutely. We can’t deny Emma is/ was very clever. That is obvious to me. The issue as JK points out is she doesn’t live in the real world. This will never impact her. So it’s easy to ‘be kind’.

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 10:06

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:01

Right but it’s possible she is wrong.

Emma might have taken a lot of time to do this and come to a different conclusion.

Emma has spent time with young TG women and overly sympathised with them. She is working in entertainment where there is a much higher percentage of LGBT etc… people and lower boundaries around fluidity, Something that JKR didn’t have experience of at that age.

What do you think she might be wrong about?

That vulnerable women don't need single sex spaces?

That men can change sex and become women?

Which?

Why can't Emma advocate for trans identifying men in a way that doesn't stamp all over women's rights? Why didnt she think of that and help them advocate for third spaces if they need them?

Why did she support a movement that prioritises men's desire over women's needs and safety?

DwarfBeans · 30/09/2025 10:07

God I love JKR ❤️

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 10:07

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:02

I disagree I think she was trying to make sense of a very confusing issue from her perspective, and just got it wrong, very publically.

Maybe she should have thought a bit harder before running her mouth off in public.

Its not actually that hard if you agree that women's rights should be respected.

REP22 · 30/09/2025 10:08

Clafoutie · 29/09/2025 21:10

I thought Emma Watson had said “I’m here for all the witches, by the way” ( not “except one”) ?
I’m not suggesting this wasn’t a dig at JKR, but it seems a important to be accurate about what was said.

I believe her actual phrase was "I'm here for all witches by the way... bar one." Apologies if I have misquoted.

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:08

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 10:06

What do you think she might be wrong about?

That vulnerable women don't need single sex spaces?

That men can change sex and become women?

Which?

Why can't Emma advocate for trans identifying men in a way that doesn't stamp all over women's rights? Why didnt she think of that and help them advocate for third spaces if they need them?

Why did she support a movement that prioritises men's desire over women's needs and safety?

She could have been wrong about transwomen being a threat to women, because the only Transwomen she met were gay and were shamed for being so.

She could have been wrong about transing because she met teenagers who self harmed because the couldn’t transition, and used HP as escapism.

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 10:10

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:08

She could have been wrong about transwomen being a threat to women, because the only Transwomen she met were gay and were shamed for being so.

She could have been wrong about transing because she met teenagers who self harmed because the couldn’t transition, and used HP as escapism.

None of that would merit handing over women's single sex spaces to men.

TimeForATerf · 30/09/2025 10:10

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/09/2025 08:28

Cor, I see the American shift came on line overnight

What I thought.

Probably a TRA Reddit thread somewhere that alerted them all to this one and they appeared all of a sudden like ants around dropped food on a hot day.

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:11

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 10:07

Maybe she should have thought a bit harder before running her mouth off in public.

Its not actually that hard if you agree that women's rights should be respected.

Right because women should be seen a not heard unless they are completely agreeable to everyone, right?

You think she is “running her mouth” (I hate that phrase) because you disagree with her, but plenty of people think the same about JKR and would accuse her of the same thing.

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 10:11

And trans identifying men offend at the same rates (or potentially higher) than other men. That data has been in the public domain. JKR was not wrong about that.

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:13

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 10:10

None of that would merit handing over women's single sex spaces to men.

In your opinion, but in hers she is probably thinking it’s keeping them safe.

Flawed thinking for sure, but reasonable from her perspective.

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 30/09/2025 10:14

Thegreyhound · 30/09/2025 07:32

She keeps some weird company for a woman’s rights activist.

OK, that vague uninformative criticism has no bearing on anything I wrote.

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 10:15

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:11

Right because women should be seen a not heard unless they are completely agreeable to everyone, right?

You think she is “running her mouth” (I hate that phrase) because you disagree with her, but plenty of people think the same about JKR and would accuse her of the same thing.

No. Women shouldnt call themselves feminists when they've never given a single thought to vulnerable women.

If Emma found it so confusing then she should have done research before commenting. I don't get any impression that JKR finds it confusing. She understands the issues and knows her own mind.

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 30/09/2025 10:15

She could have said Emma has a lot of trust to build back up before I believe that she actually does care in the way she said.

Not sure we can assume this was something JKR could actually have said, without lying at least. It's quite conceivable she doesn't think they're in a position where Emma could build back up trust at all. In which case, avoiding that point would actually be going less hard than she could.

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 10:15

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:13

In your opinion, but in hers she is probably thinking it’s keeping them safe.

Flawed thinking for sure, but reasonable from her perspective.

Not reasonable if she'd stopped to consider anyone else involved. Which is exactly JKR's point.

nicepotoftea · 30/09/2025 10:17

This follow up tweet further explains Rowling's perspective.

"She could have contacted me privately any time to say her views had changed, if they have. I'd have been entirely supportive. What she's chosen to do instead is yet another bit of public brand repositioning, without talking to me, but using me for her purpose. It's getting old."

A thread that runs through all Rowling's work is her contempt for people who protect their public image at the expense of personal integrity - Gilderoy Lockhart, Dolores Umbridge, Horace Slughorn in the HP books and it's a recurring theme in the Strike books.

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:20

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 10:15

Not reasonable if she'd stopped to consider anyone else involved. Which is exactly JKR's point.

Probably the same level as though that JKR gave to the main actors when she started with the tweets and how they would be put in difficult positions in all of their interviews.

It wasn’t malicious and I think it has been important to do, but this conflict has dominated their public personas for a while now.

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:22

This is true, but I am still disappointed that she chose to attack her for her wealth and status and not her words.

I think she missed a real opportunity to speak to Emma and find out why rather than making assumptions.

And maybe I am just ready for all the animosity to resolve x

TheKeatingFive · 30/09/2025 10:22

2021x · 30/09/2025 10:20

Probably the same level as though that JKR gave to the main actors when she started with the tweets and how they would be put in difficult positions in all of their interviews.

It wasn’t malicious and I think it has been important to do, but this conflict has dominated their public personas for a while now.

What does that even mean?

All the other actors (bar Emma and Dan) conducted themselves perfectly well.

IsawwhatIsaw · 30/09/2025 10:22

That is impressive. Very articulate.

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