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Richard Dawkin's new book warns against denial of scientific truth by ‘astonishingly vicious’ trans activists and other threats on science

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IwantToRetire · 25/09/2025 18:02

In The War on Science, Dawkins joins several scientists and philosophers contending that academic freedom and truth in universities was being stifled by diversity, equity and inclusion policies that promoted falsehoods under the banner of social justice.

“I draw the line at the belligerent slogan ‘trans women are women’ because it is scientifically false,” he said. “When taken literally, it can infringe the rights of other people, especially women.

“It logically entails the right to enter women’s sporting events, women’s changing rooms, women’s prisons and so on.

“So powerful has this postmodern counter-factualism become, that newspapers refer to ‘her penis’ as a matter of unremarked routine.”

Full article at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/25/richard-dawkins-trans-women-slogan-scientifically-false/ and at https://archive.is/zAFxS

Richard Dawkin's new book warns against denial of scientific truth by ‘astonishingly vicious’ trans activists and other threats on science
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Howseitgoin · 26/09/2025 12:30

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/09/2025 12:29

😂😂😂

Such intellectual insight

Yeah & where's your evidence to the contrary?

Helleofabore · 26/09/2025 12:31

Howseitgoin · 26/09/2025 12:24

Ive seen the Netflix show & that's false.

But apparently, older people cannot be trusted in telling their truth.

So, who should we believe...

Merrymouse · 26/09/2025 12:33

Howseitgoin · 26/09/2025 12:26

Of course. The obsessive focus is a distraction technique to stop talking about bi modal sex.

Sex is not bimodal.

I think you are referring to e.g. bimodal distribution of height, but height is not sex.

Kucinghitam · 26/09/2025 12:33

So, who should we believe...

I think the Righteous method is:

Who is on The Wrong Side of History? Everything they say is terrible and tainted.
Who is on The Right Side of History? Everything they say is wonderful.

Igneococcus · 26/09/2025 12:35

Its not a redefinition. Its fact that within species there's potential for biological variation. That this isn't in the service of reproduction is irrelevant.

For evolution only reproduction matters.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/09/2025 12:36

Howseitgoin · 26/09/2025 12:30

Yeah & where's your evidence to the contrary?

😂😂

Maybe somewhere on Netflix? Or Cbeebies? Or BBC sport? 😂

eatfigs · 26/09/2025 12:38

Howseitgoin · 26/09/2025 12:29

Its not a redefinition. Its fact that within species there's potential for biological variation. That this isn't in the service of reproduction is irrelevant.

It is a redefinition. Think about the question of how a biologist distinguishes between female and male in a newly-discovered species.

Helleofabore · 26/09/2025 12:39

Howseitgoin · 26/09/2025 12:26

Of course. The obsessive focus is a distraction technique to stop talking about bi modal sex.

Squee!!!

Lovely. Let’s see the bimodal sex model!!

Please be very clear about what exactly the chart is measuring on each of the axis. What is x and what is y measuring?

We are ready to see this finally solved! I think you should submit it for a Nobel prize, it will be the find of the century.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/09/2025 12:41

Helleofabore · 26/09/2025 12:39

Squee!!!

Lovely. Let’s see the bimodal sex model!!

Please be very clear about what exactly the chart is measuring on each of the axis. What is x and what is y measuring?

We are ready to see this finally solved! I think you should submit it for a Nobel prize, it will be the find of the century.

Remember, you can't believe it unless it's on Netflix 😂

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 26/09/2025 12:46

Howseitgoin · 26/09/2025 12:17

Are you suggesting cruelty is unhelpful now? Or this only applies when convenient? According to Greer offence is irrelevant.

Edited

Again, your comprehension is lacking, offence and cruelty are not the same thing. You are willingly cruel, GG states facts that offend people who refuse to accept reality.

Helleofabore · 26/09/2025 12:46

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/09/2025 12:41

Remember, you can't believe it unless it's on Netflix 😂

Indeed!

However, if Howsa has the BIMODAL SEX chart sorted, it WILL be on Netflix! And the Beeb, and ABC, and CNN! It will be everywhere for decades to come!

I am so excited to finally see this chart and what it will be derived from. And the equation too.

Beowulfa · 26/09/2025 12:46

Howseitgoin · 26/09/2025 12:26

Of course. The obsessive focus is a distraction technique to stop talking about bi modal sex.

That's because your bimodal sex waffle is only meaningful to the type of men who wants to access women's spaces.

Meanwhile, the rest of the planet carries on knowing the sex binary is real and relevant.

Helleofabore · 26/09/2025 12:48

Can we have no distractions please?

Howsa is going to present the BIMODAL SEX chart with the axis clearly labelled so we can get get educated.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 26/09/2025 12:48

Howseitgoin · 26/09/2025 12:24

Ive seen the Netflix show & that's false.

Netflix you say?! Why didn’t you mention that before? Oh my goodness I totally accept every word you say now it’s on Netflix.

Igneococcus · 26/09/2025 12:49

Helleofabore · 26/09/2025 12:48

Can we have no distractions please?

Howsa is going to present the BIMODAL SEX chart with the axis clearly labelled so we can get get educated.

With equations I hear, I'm so excited, I love a nice equation.

Kucinghitam · 26/09/2025 12:51

I know I'm quite silly because I'm non-Righteous, female and middle-aged. But I think I would be able to just about wrap my simple lady-brain around a BIMODAL SEX graph with labelled axes.

NotBadConsidering · 26/09/2025 12:53

Igneococcus · 26/09/2025 12:49

With equations I hear, I'm so excited, I love a nice equation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equation

Equation - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equation

Helleofabore · 26/09/2025 12:53

Igneococcus · 26/09/2025 12:49

With equations I hear, I'm so excited, I love a nice equation.

Me too!

Is there specifically an international award for Biology discoveries of this magnitude, Ig?

Helleofabore · 26/09/2025 12:54

Is that to keep us occupied while waiting, NotBad?

lcakethereforeIam · 26/09/2025 12:56
Happy Jennifer Aniston GIF

Here for the graph with labelled axis! It might even make Wikipedia!!

Helleofabore · 26/09/2025 12:57

I mean, it would be fitting to finally see the BIMODAL SEX chart on a thread about Richard Dawkins! That would fucking show him, wouldn't it? It would teach Dawkins a thing or two...

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 26/09/2025 12:58

JanesLittleGirl · 26/09/2025 12:13

Is this an example of the empathy that you claim to have?

Maybe it demonstrates how agreeable he is, just like a real laydee

NotBadConsidering · 26/09/2025 12:59

Helleofabore · 26/09/2025 12:54

Is that to keep us occupied while waiting, NotBad?

It’s evidence enough of an equation in bimodal sex, isn’t it?

Helleofabore · 26/09/2025 13:02

This bit might be relevant.

"An identity is an equation that is true for all possible values of the variable(s) it contains."