Charlie Kirk assassin was living with trans roommate

[ThatZanyFatball]

May have been lovers, and sounds like he knew ahead of time that it was going to happen.

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner: source

...while ignoring the violence and death that has been inflicted by the far right conservative 'christian' (?) Trump supporting Republicans on many Democrats.
Let's not forget the shooting of the 3 children on the same day as ck was murdered, that hasn't so much as raised an eyebrow let alone an objection but that doesn't fit into trumps agenda to deflect from epstein, create a civil war and cancel the midterms...its so obvious he may as well just come out and say it with a banner above his head.

Mate. You need to spend less time on Reddit.

They're confirming what the fbi is saying, in other words what trump wants them to say. The fact remains whether he is gay or not whether his partner is transitioning or not ...it wasnt his partner who shot ck it was the maga born and bred young man who was immersed in gun culture. It doesn't exactly absolve the magas from.responsi elite despite what they would like you to believe.

For perspective republicans are gay and trans too. The rnc regularly crashes grinder when in town, they just like to pretend they're not gay .

Gullible im not. 😃

Release the epstein files, his name is all over them, he even signed the birthday card. The desperation to deflect is hanging out of him.

These three children that were shot. Don't I need to know and approve of what their opinions were on hot button topics before I'm allowed to condemn the harm inflicted on them? As some of the reactions to Charlie Kirk's murder have demonstrated, isn’t that how it works?

As I understand the shooter is the only one who died, from a self-inflicted gun shot. The other two children were injured. I wish them the best healing.

Your fundamental logic fail here is to posit that “trans people” and “men” are two entirely separate, discrete groupings. Which is clearly nonsense.

While “trans people” in general can of course encompass people of both sexes, the “trans people” that women are concerned about invading our single sex spaces etc are men. All of them. It’s totally illogical to pretend that they’re a distinct group from men, when men who “identify as women” are clearly just a subset of men.

Adult human males: men, according to UK law, and of course material reality.

And these men are just as likely to abuse, assault and murder women as other men.

Of course not all of them will, just as not all other men will; but statistically theyre just as much of a risk as other men - and they’re proving they’re men who don’t care about violating women’s boundaries (or they even enjoy it) by being in our spaces/services/sports in the first place, a further risk factor. We have absolutely zero reason to make an exception for them or extend any trust to them.

This magical thinking of yours whereby the moment a man proclaims he “identifies as a woman”, he instantly stops being a man and loses all the characteristics associated with being a man and instead acquires all the characteristics associated with being a woman is just extraordinary, and completely divorced from the real world.

How to demonstrate you’ve not RTFT without saying you’ve not RTFT.

The only kid that died in that Colorado school shooting was the perp who took his own life. We talked about him in the early part of the thread.

So far he seems to have been radicalised by the same Nihilistic extremism as many other teenage terrorists and mass killers/mass killer wannabes recently but not much info has been released yet.

Hopefully the two teens he shot will have a rapid recovery and go on to live full and happy lives.

You know, it’s possible for people to both suspect that Tyler Robinson was influenced by extreme left Trantifa ideology AND want the Epstein files to be published.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/colorado-school-shooting-radicalized-desmond-holly-b2825027.html

I 100% want the Epstein files published. But I fear it will never happen, because too many powerful people are implicated - on all sides.

Sadly, I feel the same.

Maybe it will be released in 100 years when all the major players and the women and girls they exploited are long dead.

Ah well then that's ok...only one dead...the other 2 were only shot ...they will be tickety boo in 3 shakes if a lambs tail...no lasting damage mentally or physically im sure . Next ! Talk about minimising.

I feel like we need an entrance exam…..

This is not a thread about that event.

Feel free to start one.

I've heard discussion over this from cross party commentators on this who I've followed for some time and are fairly decent.

The point was made that regardless of his political pov, the Utah governor was 'a good sort' not prone to just repeating nonsense because he is 'a decent man'.

This was actually accepted as a fair point by the left that I saw.

I think my feeling on this is there are elements on the left who would not accept any amount of evidence indicating that Tyler Robinson's partner is trans because it's an uncomfortable admission to make because it doesn't fit with their world view so it's easier to ignore.

What I've seen online evidenced about him in terms of the partners online activity definitely support this and isn't 'faked by Trump'. I think it's more difficult to fully ascertain Robinson's political beliefs from this though - I don't think it's a slam dunk he's a leftie (he's clearly heavily influenced by the right in his memes and his behaviour aligns with right wing black pill nihilism but may be manifesting in left wing political concerns).

And we can't dismiss the timing of his shot being right after a question about trans shooters. It's impossible.

I've no idea if the shooter was left or right wing or a mix, or neither.

What is possible is that the febrility and tribalism of the current political landscape has and is pushing people to more extreme stances. Black and white thinking, a refusal to critically evaluate, loaded onto a generation that face dislocated communities and a harsh economic climate.

As if the pp, and possibly the news sites, would have given a toss about the school shooting if it wasn't being brought up in bad faith because it happened the same time Charlie Kirk was murdered.

This. The two things are not mutually exclusive. No one here is cheering for Trump.

You know I hate to be cynical, but I'm starting to think there are some people who really don't want any discussion of the shooter's motivation.

We all exist. What would be the point in denying that someone exists?

But adopting a trans identity does not make you into the opposite sex. People who adopt trans identities are either male or femae, just like the rest of us...regardless of how they choose to present. They are not a unique category of human being. They are people with the same range of foibles, traits, characteristics and preferences as everyone else.

People who align with the precepts of transgender ideology ( a set of ideas about what constitutes 'identity' and sex) tend to think if someone doesn't accept that a person has changed sex it is to "deny their existence".

I say that If an identity is totally dependent on other people accepting it or validating it then it is an incredibly fragile construct, and I, for one, am not prepared to pretend that someone is something they are clearly not, and certainly not under duress.

People can imagine whatever they like about themselves. But nobody else has to take part in that imagining.

I, for one, can't believe we're talking about Charlie Kirk's murder and the Epstein files when all eight species of pangolin are critically endangered

Why are pangolins endangered? | The Zoological Society of London https://share.google/jBEwqD4nuB1GnVF0c

Just like its possible his maga upbringing pro gun indoctrination laid the ground work for him to become radicalised by either side. His pro gun skills ultimately led him to be able to hit a man in the chest, one shot and kill him outright, from some distance. My objection is to the whitewashing of all of that as if it wasnt even relevant to the outcome. Twisting the focus to whether he is gay or not. TR committed the murder not the other person so trans, gay, straight is irrelevant. Does it matter what extremism if he ends up murdering someone.

To say im sceptical about whatever comes from the trump administration is an understatement given the cacophony of lies that comes from trump.daily and his screaming desperation to deflect from epstein by exploiting his 'great friend' cks death to manipulate a power grab. Kash Patel has no backbone and is a trump puppet who says whatever his lord and master wants.
One look at the manipulations of Ghislaine Maxwell situation should tell you all you need to know about how far they are prepared to go to get their way and how desperate trump is to sweep it under the carpet. As much as I am aware the Democrats are equally involved , but ultimately trump is just looking after trump.

But what about the pangolins?

Nobody here is going to be " flexible" when it comes to protecting women's established sex based rights. Equalities legislation is designed to respect, accommodate and cater for the specific requirements of different groups. Female ( Sex) is an established group with its own discrete provisions.

People with trans identities also have their own set of rights...but they do not have precedent over the establsihed rights of female people. There can be no " flexibility" on this.

Male people do not own the set of protections that have been specifically created for female people.

I don't want to derail Tiny Tim tiptoeing through the tulips, but I can't believe we're talking about Charlie Kirk when the BBC has an interesting article up about the Royal Navy's use of the remote island of Rockall during the Cold War.
'Operation Rockall successfully completed': The tiny island seized by Britain to foil the USSR