Graham Linehan arrested on arrival at Heathrow Part 4

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These threads have mostly been used to follow the case that has taken place at Westminster Magistrate's Court over the 4th and 5th September, (and will continue on the 29th October), but were created to follow the fallout of Graham's arrest at Heathrow on his return to the UK for this court case last week, and what is allegedly a conspiracy of TRAs to intimidate and harass a number of people, including Graham, with the alleged support of various police services.

He is currently on trial for alleged harassment of a trans identified male and criminal damage to the man's phone. The charges stem from a series of events in October 2024 at Battle of Ideas.

Part 1 here
Part 2 here
Part 3 here
Graham's account of the arrest here
You can support his Substack here
Or buy him a coffee here

Free Speech Union are running a fundraiser to support a claim against the Met in reference to the Heathrow arrest. Just search FSU and Graham Linehan fundraiser and it should be easy to find. At the time of posting it has reached 64% of its stretch target.
The FSU have managed to get the bail condition that @Glinner must not post on X removed, so he is now freely posting on there again.

Most of the mainstream media have reported on the case, but none have covered it as well as Nick Wallis. Follow him on X for live posting from the court again on 29th October.
You can support Nick here (posted Friday 5th September):
"I am deeply grateful to everyone who has seen fit to bung me the cost of a coffee, a pint or even a bloody London pint since I found out I was able to come back today. If you think you can afford to make a small donation, there’s more info here:"
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From NW

... about it being her phone.
FM possibly yes
P so you could be mistaken about that detail
FM yes
P and camera-people from the event go round taking photos
FM yes
P whilst people are talking
FM yes
P and those photos are made public

From NW

FM yes
P and your image is in one of those public photos
FM yes
[evidence ends - no re-ex or J q's - final witness is Julie Bindel]

From NW

[Julie Bindel JB @bindelj is sworn in]

From NW

SV name
JB Julie Bindel
SV occupation
JB journalist
SV and you campaign against MVAWG
JB yes
SV when did you get involved in the sex gender debate
JB in 2003 I wrote about transsexuality and in 2004 i wrote a piece for the Guardian mag

From NW

... about a legal case about a male transactivist who wanted to work in a women's refuge and I made the point that trans-identified men are still men
SV response
JB well it was early days - many of us had seen men claiming to be trapped in th wrong body, but by 2004 it was seen

From NW

... to be unkind to say that these were not women trapped in the wrong body. There were 200 letters of complaint to the Guardian and some in support but not many.

From NW

SV have you continued to maintain your stance
JB yes it's impossible to campaign against MVAWG without seeing the threat from male transactivism - yes I have
SV have you been on the receiving end of any retirbutive measures
JB yes the gay press had become the LGBTQ+ press by

... then. In 2008 there were complaints I was up for a Stonewall award - the same year the NUS added my name to five fascist groups who they would no platform and that was just the early days.
JB yes and there was a constant mob, picket demos against me whenever I tried to speak

... when I spoke at the Vauxhall Tavern there was another baying mob outside and during the talk I was physically assaulted by a trans activist who was allowed to stay in the venue and continue to shout.
SV do yo know GL
JB yes

From NW

SV how
JB came across him on twitter - never watched Father Ted - became aware of him - I've seen him around
SV going to talk about LGBA - are you a member
JB no
SV did you attend confy
JB yes and year before

SV were you aware of protest
JB it's a given outside gay events which don't believe TWAW
SV did you speak in 23 or 24
JB both
SV did you see any last year
JB yes usual brightly coloured umbrellas TRAs shouting as delegates entered the building. There were two who shouted

... at me using my name - saying they see me, they see where I'm going etc
SV know them?
JB yes
SV who?
JB one who refers to himself as Freda Wallace and Sophia Brooks
SV both male
JB yes

SV had you seen the before
JB yes
SV where
JB can't recall specifics - there are so many events - there's always these demos
SV why were they there in 24
JB to harass the delegates going in and out of the building

From NW

SV the crickets were released in the LGBA event - did you see him inside
JB didn't see him inside - saw him outside on more than one occasion
SV did you make a connection between the crickets and FW and SB
JB oh I assumed they'd be involved. I've had interactions with TRAs

... like FW and SB - there are some who are just irritating, but there are some like FW and SB who give off an air of a threat.
SV what do you mean
JB - the glaring - the locked eye contact - it's difficult to explain. Most men are perfectly decent human beings - but because of

From NW

... the work I do I have developed an instinct and I have been attacked. SB wanted to scare and he was certainly being menacing.
SV did you see the cricket releasers
JB no - saw a few people in masks but couldn't ID them
SV did you speak to or contact GL about this event?
JB no

SV moving on to BoI event the next week - were you a speaker
JB I was
SV did you attend the Gender Wars talk
JB yes
SV where were you sitting
JB right hand side, half way down on the aisle

SV to the right as you look at the panel
JB yes
SV did you see SB and FW there
JB I did
SV when
JB they were making noises, chatting to the level where if you were in a cinema they would have been told
SV were they then
JB I think as they...

From NW

... became more emboldened someone told them.
SV where were they in relation to you
JB down and left - I could see them clearly
SV what were you doing
JB I was making notes on my laptop
SV what happened
JB someone tapped me on the shoulder and told me FW was tweeting about me

From NW

... saying I was there with my laptop out pretending to work. I thought it was weird he was in the same room and wanted to make it known he'd seen me
SV what's the purpose of BoI
JB for respectful debate to scrutinise ideas so if I went in and there was a panel of men...

From NW

... saying feminism is bad - you don't interrupt - you wait and listen and then you get your chance to speak.
SV and you've done that - where people strongly disagree
JB oh yes - I've been on panels with people calling feminism a cancer and one where one woman blamed...

... lesbians for sexual violence. It's quite edgy.
SV were FW and SB engaging in that way.
JB no they were there to disrupt - they got louder - didn't see them get up - heard something behind me and saw KH and Brooks holding his phone or a recording device really close to...

... her face and he was doing it to other women asking him to sit down and stop disrupting and he started to get really into women's faces so I joined them to tell him to stop.
SV who was talking
JB think it was FM

From NW

SV were you aware of any photo of footage of you
JB yes Brooks tried to either photo or film me
SV did you take some footage
JB yes
SV and posted it on line
JB yes I was outraged they'd come to a free speech conference and they were trying to stop that session

[we are going to some a/v]
SV is this footage taken by you
JB yes
[it is filming SB from the rear as KH stars putting a piece of paper in front of his camera - she goes and SB starts filming other women including JB. Security arrives]

SV again from your perspective - the standing up and moving around
JB several minutes - at least 5 mins I would say
SV did you see how many people he was photog/filming
JB about half a dozen women
SV did you see him with a camera rather than a phone
JB can't swear to what...

From NW

... it was, but he was using something to put into the faces of the women
SV men and women?
JB all women
SV did you see him after he was removed
JB yes leaving the confy at end of day to get an Uber - he and FW were there -- shouting, following me closely down the road -

From NW

... camera-phone was out. Harassing and intimidating.
SV what was that like
JB I felt intimidated and scared. Scared. Not of Wallace. Of him. I was waiting for my Uber and I felt quite shaken. Wanted to leave the area but if I did I would have felt unsafe, because then he very

... likely would have followed me.
SV did you see any interaction between SB and GL
JB yes saw SB walking slowly in front of him - filming and waving the phone - it's his MO
SV how did GL react
JB he was trying to do what we were all had tried to do previously

... stop filming, stop harassing, it's very menacing being in your face. GL told him several times to stop, go away, leave it - words of that nature.
SV we know there's no controversy about it - GL grabbed Brooks' phone from his hand. Did you see that?
JB I saw a sweeping motion

From NW

... and then the phone was flying.
SV what position was GL to SB
JB SB was in his face, close up, and GL was trying repeatedly to stop him filming [she makes a gesture showing a small gap with her hands] it was in that proximity
[we go to more av. - we se GL leaving...]

From NW

[it is filmed by SB - he tracks GL coming out of the venue - and asks him "why do you think its' acceptable to call children domestic terrorist. GL clocks him and there is shouting including "Oi!" and the phone picture goes blurred then off]

From NW

SV did you see what happened?
JB yeah GL was leaving, SB came up to him and put the phone in his face
SV how close
JB ths close [makes hand gesture of between 3 and 5 inches]
SV what were his options
P objects - judge allows objection
SV if you have told someone more...

From NW

... than once to stop and they're not stopping, would you say there is a typical way of behaving
JB I've been in many sits where TRAs are harassing me in quite close quarters - sometimes I endure it and walk away, sometimes I try to alert others to say they are getting too close

From NW

and I do recall one time where I took a placard out of the hands of someone waving it very close to me because I thought he might hit me with it.
SV what was GL's demeanor when you saw SB with the phone outside
JB he'd been his usual friendly self and v quickly he appeared

... like a man who had had enough, like he just wanted them to go away.
SV did you hear any of the language he used
JB I didn't - similar to get out of my face go away
SV when you've been harassed by TRAs have you ever sought help from the police.

Thanks @MyrtleLion I'm back for a while if you want to take a break?

From NW

P objects - J allows objection - SV says JB knows about dealing with TRAs as is GL - so when it comes to what kind of assistance may have been available to GL - to what extent it might have been reasonable to expect to get assistance from the police. J doesn't think it will

... assist to hear JB's answer.
[cross-examination]
P did you hear GL call SB an incel
JB don't recall
P what about sissy-porn watching scumbag
JB no
P no?!
JB I was being harassed myself
P groomer
JB no - but I've heard it used before - correctly
P really why

NW

JB because it's about people who want to groom people to engage in sex with minors [we go to av of GL coming out of BoI filmed by SB - he approaches GL and asks q about domestic terrorist - GL says go away groomer and calls him an incel]
SV so at this point SB was not harassing

you
JB no it must have been FW
P not SB
JB not for those few seconds [more av filmed by SB of him and GL who is filming him - they exchange insults - "sissy porn watching scumbag... incel" which SB says "you're the incel you're divorced" etc]

NW

P you weren't close by
JB I saw it and heard them
P but not of those insults
JB no I said I don't recall what was said
P you said he said go away
JB no I said words to that effect
P you said SB filmed you
JB yes