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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women’s privacy and dignity

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Mrspenguinsschoolforfreaks · 07/09/2025 13:43

I’ve just been to my local leisure centre swimming pool and while I was in the changing rooms a woman walked in from the showers, fully naked. I averted my eyes, and she walked quite close past me in a way which to me (and I fully accept I may well have imagined it) felt a bit pointed. I felt vaguely uncomfortable and embarrassed in the same way I would have if a man had walked in naked.

My impression is that the vast majority of people on this forum believe that it is a fundamental breach of women’s privacy and dignity if people with male biology (whether cisgender men or trans women) share changing facilities with women. Yet they do not consider that it undermines a woman’s privacy or dignity to have to get changed in front of other women, or to see other women naked.

I understand that many women have had experiences with men’s exhibitionist or voyeuristic behaviour which makes them specifically uncomfortable being undressed around men, or being around men who are undressed. But I’ve often seen the argument on here that it equally undermines men’s privacy and dignity to have to share changing facilities with women.

So my question is, do you think privacy and dignity are not infringed by having to get changed in front of people of the same sex? If not, why not?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/09/2025 08:09

Mate, no one cares what you think.

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:09

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No evidence….😂

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:10

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/09/2025 08:09

Mate, no one cares what you think.

And yet you can't stop responding…😂

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/09/2025 08:10

RedToothBrush · 10/09/2025 07:59

At this point many of us are wondering about all this reporting of hate crime;

'Just how much of that can be attributed to Lynsay Watson and his gang screaming "she called her Dave instead of Davina" and reporting people for the 'crime' of using correct sex pronouns'

And if you aren't thinking that, you aren't doing much thinking.

Exactly.

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:12

ArabellaSaurus · 10/09/2025 08:03

No need to shout.

"No need to shout."

Word's are violence! 😂

RedToothBrush · 10/09/2025 08:12

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:08

So you have no evidence….

Maatttteeeee we have threads and threads of it, if you had been paying attention.

Yes we do have evidence. You just can't be arsed to read it and expect us to listen it her for you personally like you are royalty or something. That's true sealioning.

Get up off your arse and read them. We arent here as service human to a lazy male.

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:13

ThatBlackCat · 10/09/2025 08:04

Irrelevant as 'hate crimes' are whatever the male says it is. A woman saying no to a male, or a woman who correctly-sexes him is accused of a 'hate crime'.

Lol…

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:14

RedToothBrush · 10/09/2025 08:12

Maatttteeeee we have threads and threads of it, if you had been paying attention.

Yes we do have evidence. You just can't be arsed to read it and expect us to listen it her for you personally like you are royalty or something. That's true sealioning.

Get up off your arse and read them. We arent here as service human to a lazy male.

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Still waiting…I won't hold my breath…..🥱

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/09/2025 08:14

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:10

And yet you can't stop responding…😂

When it amuses me to do so 🤷‍♀️

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 10/09/2025 08:14

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:10

And yet you can't stop responding…😂

At this point I’m sort of grimly fascinated to see what daft thing you say next

on a serious note, I’m not your mum (thank god), but you’ve been posting all night in an increasingly erratic way. Mumsnet is meant to be a pass time, it’s not compulsory. Your posts don’t read like you’re either enjoying yourself or learning anything. I would strongly suggest taking a break

ThatBlackCat · 10/09/2025 08:14

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:13

Lol…

Yes, facts are 'lol' to misogynistic males.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/09/2025 08:15

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:12

"No need to shout."

Word's are violence! 😂

That’s what your TRA mates think, yes. It’s a comedic cliche by now.

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:16

ThatBlackCat · 10/09/2025 08:14

Yes, facts are 'lol' to misogynistic males.

'"facts' = conspiracy theories.

Still waiting…..

RedToothBrush · 10/09/2025 08:16

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:14

Still waiting…I won't hold my breath…..🥱

Well then you can wait gasbagging , whilst the rest of the world gets on with reality.

No skin off my nose.

RedToothBrush · 10/09/2025 08:17

Imagine existing purely to stop women talking amongst themselves.

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:17

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 10/09/2025 08:14

At this point I’m sort of grimly fascinated to see what daft thing you say next

on a serious note, I’m not your mum (thank god), but you’ve been posting all night in an increasingly erratic way. Mumsnet is meant to be a pass time, it’s not compulsory. Your posts don’t read like you’re either enjoying yourself or learning anything. I would strongly suggest taking a break

Um, its 5pm in OZ.

Still waiting…

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/09/2025 08:17

RedToothBrush · 10/09/2025 08:12

Maatttteeeee we have threads and threads of it, if you had been paying attention.

Yes we do have evidence. You just can't be arsed to read it and expect us to listen it her for you personally like you are royalty or something. That's true sealioning.

Get up off your arse and read them. We arent here as service human to a lazy male.

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Exactly. The amount of projection from this poster is really something.

RedToothBrush · 10/09/2025 08:18

This is the naughty step.

You are on it.

Congrats.

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:18

RedToothBrush · 10/09/2025 08:17

Imagine existing purely to stop women talking amongst themselves.

Translation: I have no evidence, 'look over there time'….

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:19

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/09/2025 08:17

Exactly. The amount of projection from this poster is really something.

WAAAAAAH I HAVE NO EVIDENCE!

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 10/09/2025 08:19

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:00

SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE….

Properly angry now eh? Comply women, comply!! Pathetic 😂

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:20

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 10/09/2025 08:19

Properly angry now eh? Comply women, comply!! Pathetic 😂

Ahhh but it was okay when you were demanding evidence wasn't it?

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 10/09/2025 08:20

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RedToothBrush · 10/09/2025 08:22

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LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 10/09/2025 08:22

Howseitgoin · 10/09/2025 08:17

Um, its 5pm in OZ.

Still waiting…

What time does your mum get your tea ready?

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