David Tennant's wife, Georgia, reveals they have several neurodiverse children

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Explains a lot, doesn't it...

"We've got a lot of neurodiverse kids"

David Tennant's wife Georgia reveals several of their children are neurodiverse as she opens up on navigating family life | Daily Mail Online

I'm sorry but why is it despicable? I don't know these people...
But I knew I was bisexual at 10. That's the age many kids have their first kiss etc.. why is it despicable to be openly gay?
I had a terrible time as I was from a Catholic family so couldn't talk about it at all with anyone.

Well you spouted a lot of bloody nonsense about gender identity.

I did go through a phase of hating being female and wanting to be a bloke in my late teens / early twenties.

I have said I would have been at risk from this nonsense if I was a teen now.

And all you've done is reinforce the point about preferences for colour being a load of cobblers.

Well done.

You've thoroughly convinced me of your argument.

You can’t have both ‘sets’ of organs but very occasionally an individual can have an ovary and a testes, or a mix of ovarian and testicular tissue within one or both gonads. It is extremely rare.

Tissue yes.

Not actual ovaries/testes at the same time.

And it's ridiculously rare.

I don’t think you’ve actually read my ‘some nonsense’ have you?

If you had you would see that I am not talking about a kid who doesn’t like pink. I very explicitly referred to something much more specific.

Do you often find you prefer to respond to what you wish someone had said instead of what they did say?

It is extremely rare. You can have an ovary and testes at the same time but not both functional (probably…there are very occasional question marks in the literature about this). Just wanted to point out that things can sometimes be very complex indeed when it comes to DSDs. I think we need to resist the urge to oversimplify when it comes to these conditions specifically.

No you didn't. You were faced with an unarguable contradiction of your assertion about children, and had no way to back it up, so you decided to throw some baseless WPATH nonsense out in a hope that it would somehow strengthen your baseless position.

You have no idea how Anne Health diagnose children, do you? All they ask is for one parent's agreement.

Do you really think you can blind us with nonsense jargon?

Please don’t try that with me, putting words in my mouth. Let me spell it out for you, putting a t-shirt on a 9 year old declaring their sexuality and posting it on social media is despicable, that child cannot possibly consent to that. What you knew is irrelevant, hopefully your parents didn’t try to gain attention for themselves by broadcasting it.

You, like a PP who has gone curiously silent after being shown this information, were faced with the fact that Anne Health do in fact treat children, then decided you knew their "specific diagnostic criteria", even though you have no basis for that. Do you?

Yes I read your nonsense.

I still think it's nonsense.

Absolutely none, zero, nada.

I agree. It’s all quite subjective isn’t it. Who decides if the child has the necessary level of maturity, etc? 🤷‍♀️

From about the age of 5 to about 13 or 14 I was so cross I was a girl. Dressed like a boy, short hair, boys name (a shortening of my female name), played with cars and toy guns, rode a bmx and went fishing. Repeatedly told my parents I wanted to be a boy. In reality I had older brothers and male cousins and just seemed they had more fun than the girls I knew. They were allowed to go in the woods on their own….I wasn’t supposed to. They were allowed to ride motorbikes, I wasn’t supposed to. They were allowed to learn to drive the tractor, I wasn’t allowed to. If things back then had been what they are now God knows what might have happened to me.

That stops religious circumcisions then. And babies that have holes in their heart repaired. Or cleft palates repaired. Or radiotherapy. Or...

🤡🤡

You can look at Anne Health’s website where they say their clinicians follow WPATH standard of care. And you can see that the WPATH standard of care involves the ICD 11 criteria for gender incongruence when it comes to diagnosis.

What part of that do you think is factually untrue?

Umm yes. It is on their website. Their clinical approach is based on WPATH which is in turn grounded in ICD 11.

Do you think I’m making that up? Or do you think their website is wrong?

Well that’s me convinced.

But if you did read what I’d said and still thought ‘well I didn’t like pink and I’m not trans’ is a rebuttal of it then that suggests your comprehension is pretty poor.

‘WPATH describes its Standards of care as evidence-based and best practice, but these leaked files cast serious doubt on that claim. They show clinicians discussing patients receiving irreversible treatments who seem very unlikely to be able to receive informed consent, including some who are very young, and others who have serious mental-health disorders. Some of the conversations suggest that the clinicians themselves don’t know the long-term effects of treatments. In other conversations, it seems that they do know that cross-sex hormones or surgeries are likely to cause serious harm, but advocate for those treatments nonetheless.
These documents suggest that some WPATH members brush off concerns about long-term patient outcomes, despite being aware of potentially debilitating and even fatal side effects of cross-sex hormones and other treatments.
Taken together, the files paint a disturbing picture of so-called “gender medicine” as neither evidence-based nor safe. And since the first rule of medicine is to do no harm, it is not medicine.’

Are you serious?

Take a kid with severe burns - you’d deny them cosmetic or reconstructive surgery? After all it’s irreversible.

You are quoting WPATH.

I don't need to qualify jack shit.

I’m not sure how you think that is a response to this exchange. Is it meant to be some revelation that you folk are hostile to any diagnostic criteria? Because it’s not.

A poster asked what diagnostic criteria Anne Health use. And I very quickly found that their clinicians use the ICD 11 criteria.

That is simply a factual position. Question asked and answered.

Ah, I've found it now.

however, all our clinicians follow the WPATH Standards of Care and Endocrine Society's guidance, which recommends a stage-not-age approach to access gender-affirming hormones alongside ensuring that a young person does not remain without hormones for too long which has been identified as a potential risk for bone health.

Certainly instills confidence!

If my quotation is so awful you can tell me what bit of WPATH I quoted that you think is factually wrong?

A poster asked what Anne Healths diagnostic criteria is and I answered her that it is ICD11.

Which bit of that of you think is incorrect and why?

We do not share the belief in WPATH's medical advice.

Oh good. So we’re agreed that we do know what approach Anne Health clinicians use?

And when you accused me of not knowing you were wrong. And when you accused me of not answering another poster who asked what approach they used, you were also wrong.