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Justwrong68 · 05/09/2025 13:48

YouCouldHaveASteamTrain · 05/09/2025 08:35

Five kids, one of whom is a they/them that she put on Instagram at the age of 9-10 wearing a "let's get things straight - I'm not" t shirt.

hopefully, kids exploited for their parents’ socials generally rebel hard

Charabanc · 05/09/2025 13:48

DoinFineIThink · 05/09/2025 13:47

Where does that say anything about 9 -10 year olds?! Unless I've missed it?

Did you miss their strapline? At the bottom of every page? And the fact that the child does not have to consent unless they're Gillick competent?

Gender-affirming care for trans+ people of all ages.

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DoinFineIThink · 05/09/2025 13:49

Rednorth · 05/09/2025 13:29

Nepotism pays well these days, thanks to the voyeuristic obsession with celebs lives.

Fandom has turned the crazy up to 11.

Nasty. She was an actress in her own right before marrying David.
Unless you want to pretend that was all down to her Daddy, couldn't possibly have done it on her own merits 🙄

DoinFineIThink · 05/09/2025 13:51

Charabanc · 05/09/2025 13:48

Did you miss their strapline? At the bottom of every page? And the fact that the child does not have to consent unless they're Gillick competent?

Gender-affirming care for trans+ people of all ages.

For all ages, gender affirming care - doesn't say anything about medicalising them?

SouthWamses · 05/09/2025 13:51

ManteesRock · 05/09/2025 13:39

No they can't! FFS!
Do you actually know any trans people in real life and know what they actually do through to be able to transition?
The only children that can hormone medication are those that are intersex and need to decide which sex they feel they are more alike. It means they have both male and female sexual organs and until they were allowed the medication it was down to their parents to decide whether they wanted their child to be a boy or a girl!

‘Intersex’ does NOT mean they ‘have both male and female organs’. The proper non-offensive term is ‘variations in sexual characteristics’ or ‘disorders of sexual development’. They are very rare - 0.018% of the population. And everyone with a DSD is either male or female. You can’t have both sets of organs as they develop from the same embryonic tissue and can only take one or the other path - it is the progress down that path that can be disrupted. Parents can’t decide whether they are a male or female - that was set at conception.

Brainworm · 05/09/2025 13:52

Alondra · 05/09/2025 13:45

Neurodiverse is a word to encompass a brain working different from people's majority. It may mean Autism, ADHD or a wide range of intellectual disabilities, some of them very serious, because they are part of genetic syndromes.

Saying a child/adult is neurodiverse is the easiest way to explain a person with higher needs without providing private medical disclosure.

Why not say ‘additional or different needs’ if the goal is to protect privacy?

‘Neurodiverse’ includes dyslexia, dyscalculia, and developmental language delay.

Charabanc · 05/09/2025 13:54

DoinFineIThink · 05/09/2025 13:51

For all ages, gender affirming care - doesn't say anything about medicalising them?

Backtracking a bit, are you? Hormone treatment is medicalisation.

They're very proud about treating children:

https://www.anne.health/articles/response-to-telegraph-puberty-blockers-august-2025

Anne Health responds: “Care, not politics” to the Telegraph — Anne - trans+ gender affirming healthcare

Anne Health Responds: Care, Not Politics in Response to Telegraph front page story

https://www.anne.health/articles/response-to-telegraph-puberty-blockers-august-2025

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SouthWamses · 05/09/2025 14:00

Alondra · 05/09/2025 13:45

Neurodiverse is a word to encompass a brain working different from people's majority. It may mean Autism, ADHD or a wide range of intellectual disabilities, some of them very serious, because they are part of genetic syndromes.

Saying a child/adult is neurodiverse is the easiest way to explain a person with higher needs without providing private medical disclosure.

It doesn’t explain their needs at all though. And when people say ‘they need x because they are ND’ it implies that by meeting those needs you are meeting the needs of the rest of the ND population. The needs as someone with a very high IQ and autism are very different from someone with learning disabilities despite HR ticking the box saying they’ve done HR training and are now inclusive because they had a training session with the former discussing his ‘lived experience’..

Alondra · 05/09/2025 14:03

Brainworm · 05/09/2025 13:52

Why not say ‘additional or different needs’ if the goal is to protect privacy?

‘Neurodiverse’ includes dyslexia, dyscalculia, and developmental language delay.

Because neurodiverse is a kinder word than saying "additional or different needs" It encloses a whole range of problems, from high functioning to severe, without having to give private medical information.

TheignT · 05/09/2025 14:08

CautiousLurker01 · 05/09/2025 11:19

At your post 11:06 to explicitly say ‘she is being coy’.

Yes referring to what was said on here, not what I thought. Maybe look at context.

CautiousLurker01 · 05/09/2025 14:09

TheignT · 05/09/2025 14:08

Yes referring to what was said on here, not what I thought. Maybe look at context.

Maybe learn to write more clearly?

usedtobeaylis · 05/09/2025 14:09

ManteesRock · 05/09/2025 13:40

Yet it's totally socially acceptable to parade a child around as being straight?
Double standards there!

Who said that? Because it wasn't me. I don't think kids should be paraded in any sense. I hate the whole discourse around 'girl dads' keeping their princesses away from boys and little boys 'flirting' with girl kids.

SouthWamses · 05/09/2025 14:09

DoinFineIThink · 05/09/2025 13:49

Nasty. She was an actress in her own right before marrying David.
Unless you want to pretend that was all down to her Daddy, couldn't possibly have done it on her own merits 🙄

Nepotism is at its most powerful in getting that first ‘break’, after that you really need to have some skills to succeed on your own. It is likely Georgia had both - getting opportunities as a child on shows alongside her father, plus the ability to act. Skills, as well as interests, often run in families.

usedtobeaylis · 05/09/2025 14:10

DoinFineIThink · 05/09/2025 13:44

Yeah, if you're straight you get comments like "going to break all the girls hearts when you're older"
or "aw, is he your boyfriend? How cute"
You never usually get people up in arms over that. It's just completely normalised. Usually by a lot of people who would be saying "you don't know your sexuality at 9 or 10!"

Am I the stand-in for 'society' here? There's this whole thing called feminism....

SouthWamses · 05/09/2025 14:10

Alondra · 05/09/2025 14:03

Because neurodiverse is a kinder word than saying "additional or different needs" It encloses a whole range of problems, from high functioning to severe, without having to give private medical information.

Then how is it useful?

SouthWamses · 05/09/2025 14:12

DoinFineIThink · 05/09/2025 13:51

For all ages, gender affirming care - doesn't say anything about medicalising them?

Why would you affirm’ a child into harmful sex stereotypes?

Pleasantsort · 05/09/2025 14:12

usedtobeaylis · 05/09/2025 13:22

I don't understand why anyone cares what David Tennant has got to say about anything. I'm from near where he is and all I see is every really fucking annoying little nyaffy west of Scotland boy who always thought he was right about everything. He makes my skin crawl.

All the best to his kids.

Same pal, same. So fucking many of these guys in the West of Scotland. Annoying wee know it all shites!

Brainworm · 05/09/2025 14:18

Alondra · 05/09/2025 14:03

Because neurodiverse is a kinder word than saying "additional or different needs" It encloses a whole range of problems, from high functioning to severe, without having to give private medical information.

I struggle with the idea that the terms ‘additional needs’, ‘different needs’ are unkind or problematic. The problem is that people hold pejorative and discriminatory attitudes towards the people we are referring to

The focus on the labels, at best, skirts around the real problem and, at worst, reinforces there is something wrong with people for whom this label refers to.

We should be challenging attitudes rather than coming up with new/different terms and labels.

SquirrelSoShiny · 05/09/2025 14:19

RedToothBrush · 05/09/2025 08:36

No shit Sherlock.

We didn't need a public announcement to know this.

This. It's almost ALWAYS this Hmm

usedtobeaylis · 05/09/2025 14:23

How weird that people use compulsory heterosexuality to argue against a view that pre-pubertal children don't necessarily know their sexuality.

SouthWamses · 05/09/2025 14:24

CinnamonCinnabar · 05/09/2025 12:50

Learning disability has many, many different causes and is not necessarily going to have anything to do with neurodiversity (whatever that incredibly vague term means). This and a previous post claiming Schizophrenia is a type of neurodiversity show how useless the term is - it's undefined and being used for an increasingly wide range of symptoms or conditions that may or may not have any links.

What does a teen with mild dyslexia have in common with an adult with LD due to Down's syndrome, or cerebral palsy, or a genetic developmental disorder?

I agree LD has many causes but it is a form of neurodiversity. Neurodiversity simply means diversity in ways of thinking/brain operation so anything that affects that results in neurodiversity. This includes schizophrenia, depression, age, left handedness, dyslexia, brain injuries, epilepsy, dementia, cerebral palsy, genetic conditions (including Down’s Syndrome), developmental coordination disorder, adhd, autism, dyscalculia, other IQ, FASD, malnutrition, impact of drugs, etc etc.

The collective term for autism/adhd/dyslexia etc is ‘neurodevelopmental disorders’. That is very distinct from the concept of ‘neurodiversity’.

usedtobeaylis · 05/09/2025 14:24

Pleasantsort · 05/09/2025 14:12

Same pal, same. So fucking many of these guys in the West of Scotland. Annoying wee know it all shites!

I'm glad someone gets what I mean! Wouldn't have given the wee dullard the time of day.

Alondra · 05/09/2025 14:25

SouthWamses · 05/09/2025 14:10

Then how is it useful?

It stops marginalising people socially when they are referred to as "people with additional needs" as often happened in the past.

Neurodiversity is not a medical word - doctors and specialists give specific diagnosis, it's up to the person/parents if they want to keep that information private within family and close friends and use the "neurodiverse" word for a socially wider setting,

MrsLizzieDarcy · 05/09/2025 14:27

I find her extremely grating. And I have little time for parents who use their children for attention like this - it's bad enough she's hung off David's coat tails for years.

SouthWamses · 05/09/2025 14:30

Alondra · 05/09/2025 14:25

It stops marginalising people socially when they are referred to as "people with additional needs" as often happened in the past.

Neurodiversity is not a medical word - doctors and specialists give specific diagnosis, it's up to the person/parents if they want to keep that information private within family and close friends and use the "neurodiverse" word for a socially wider setting,

Simply using a new word to describe something just replaces the old word in people’s minds, it doesn’t change them.