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Serious life ending Sexual assault on a stroke ward

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mrshoho · 04/09/2025 09:44

Stroke 'played no part' in Blackpool hospital patient's death - BBC News https://share.google/E1kG2EjcGHJWiPXvA

Omfg. This is just horrendous. This poor woman. Bled to death on a stroke ward following a sexual assault on the ward. What on earth?

Valerie Kneale, with shoulder-length grey curly hair, wears a pink, lilac and green floral blouse as she is photographed in a garden. She is standing in front of a pebble-dashed house with a white plastic door and windows.

Stroke 'played no part' in Blackpool hospital patient's death

Valerie Kneale's inquest is told she died because of a "forcible sexual assault" while in hospital.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy9neq9e7qqo

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Almostwelsh · 04/09/2025 12:45

This should be on the main boards not just the feminist board - it is a feminist issue, but also an issue of concern about NHS culture and safeguarding
And the national news should cover it prominently.

ParmaVioletTea · 04/09/2025 12:45

Oh good Lord, that is one of the worst things I've ever read.

RIP Valerie. I'm so so sorry that you were murdered in this way.

WTF was going on in that hospital, on that ward? There should be a national public scandal about this.

Fucking men. The man who raped her, the men around her - medicos - who did nothing. The men who condone other men's inhuman behaviour. Words fail me.

PearlClutzsche · 04/09/2025 12:45

HappierTimesAhead · 04/09/2025 12:39

It sounds like Valerie's family didn't want to leave her alone on that ward either and it was a small time frame when they were not present that the assault happened. I can't imagine what they have and are still going through.

I didn’t mean that as a criticism of Valerie’s family. Not at all. My heart goes out to them.

As I said, “after reading this…”

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 12:46

Bridget57 · 04/09/2025 12:25

This hospital is near to me. It was previously investigated as the staff had been drugging the patients to keep them quiet. If I remember correctly a couple of nurses received prison sentences due to this criminal drugging of patients and many other staff were involved and aware and received suspended sentences etc one being the male nurse who was in charge of the ward when this poor lady was raped and murdered. I think it was originally a student nurse who blew the whistle on the staff drugging the patients and the appalling way the stroke patients were being treated on that ward. Then health care assistants reported the blood on this poor lady and this same male nurse did nothing about it and, due to this, valuable evidence was lost. This is the same male nurse who was involved in patient drugging. What the heck are the police playing at? They should hang their heads in shame, the least this poor lady and her family deserve is justice.

So due to staff actions, valuable evidence was lost. It was the police who picked up that Valerie’s death should be investigated, and the police who have been investigating for the last 5 years +

but it’s the police who should hang their heads in shame?

how are they supposed to secure a charge with no evidence? Perhaps you should join up if you could do it better?

StressedOot3 · 04/09/2025 12:47

That's horrifying and even more concerning if it were a member of staff working with vulnerable patients who hasn't been identified and may still be a healthcare worker. Though obviously, it could have been another patient.

FannyCann · 04/09/2025 12:48

This also happened at this hospital.
I always drive extra carefully while passing through the Blackpool area on the motorway up to Scotland. The hospital seems like a very dangerous dreadful place to be avoided at all costs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765?app-referrer=deep-link

Catherine Hudson and Charlotte Wilmot

Blackpool nurse and colleague jailed over drugging patients

Catherine Hudson, 54, and Charlotte Wilmot, 48, conspired to unlawfully drug a patient at a hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765?app-referrer=deep-link

SirHumphreyRocks · 04/09/2025 12:48

SeaBreezeDewberryMusk · 04/09/2025 10:27

Truly awful! Shame on the police, NMC and Coroners Court for not investigating this properly! This is unlikely to be an isolated case, the perpetrator/s probably committed similar crimes before and are free to attack again. All staff who were on shift should be suspended until they speak the truth. Shocking and abhorrent!

Yes it's terrible, and serious clinical errors and misjudgements were made that need to be explained. But I am not sure how the police can be blamed. They were called in a long time (in investigation terms) afterwards, and on what appeared to be an entirely unconnected matter. Post-mortems are not generally carried out 18 days after death, so it would seem that it was actually the thoroughness of the police investigations into allegations of mistreatment and neglect made several days afterwards that this death even came to light. By that time all possible evidence had gone. It doesn't matter how long you investigate something. If there is no evidence, then there is no evidence. I suspect that the unusually long delay in the coroners court was due to them turning over every stone they could, for several years, before coming to the conclusion they could not proceed any further.

Almost certain he will attack again. Without being indelicate and bearing in mind the (no doubt underplayed) horrific description of the injuries, there is no certainty that this was a man or a member of staff. Outrage is absolutely justified, but you cannot suspend people "until they speak the truth" when you have no evidence that they are lying.

What I would like to hear about is the wider context, because there was certainly something seriously awry in that ward and again, justified as the outrage is, the risk is that that fact gets lost.

FannyCann · 04/09/2025 12:49

Cross post Bridget. I didn’t know those extra details especially about the male nurse. 😱

runningpram · 04/09/2025 12:52

It is utterly awful. I am sure the family is calling for heads and the CEO of the trust should have to resign.

nomas · 04/09/2025 12:52

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/09/2025 11:11

There's a massive history of abuse and neglect at this hospital. Two nurses jailed for abusing patients on this ward. They and others convicted of stealing drugs from the hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765

A male healthcare professional was arrested on suspicion of rape, murder and sexual assault but subsequently released and no charges ever laid.

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/blackpool-stroke-patient-75-died-20571934

Don't suppose the NHS have taken any action against senior staff overseeing this shocking situation. They never seem to, Suggests yet another NHS cover up.

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SirHumphreyRocks · 04/09/2025 12:52

FannyCann · 04/09/2025 12:48

This also happened at this hospital.
I always drive extra carefully while passing through the Blackpool area on the motorway up to Scotland. The hospital seems like a very dangerous dreadful place to be avoided at all costs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765?app-referrer=deep-link

Cross posted with this - look at the dates. Those nurses were on the stroke ward, outed by a student nurse in November 2018 - that whistleblowing student nurse prompted the police coming in, clearly. That was what prompted them to investigate in the first place.

nomas · 04/09/2025 12:52

FannyCann · 04/09/2025 12:48

This also happened at this hospital.
I always drive extra carefully while passing through the Blackpool area on the motorway up to Scotland. The hospital seems like a very dangerous dreadful place to be avoided at all costs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765?app-referrer=deep-link

The faces of evil.

Pedallleur · 04/09/2025 12:54

been following the Valerie case on the local news. It was only discovered by accident. i thought there would be some cctv footage for the day she died but seemingly not. No one saw anything or anyone. Appalling failure that seemingly was brushed away

Idontknowhatnametochoose · 04/09/2025 12:54

Having complained to pals about a situation with a close relative in hospital, staff absolutely do protect their own.

Lalgarh · 04/09/2025 12:54

But Nurses Are Angels 😇

Kalalily · 04/09/2025 12:56

I plan to write to my MP today and to Wes Streeting.
As a mum in her 50s with teenage children struggling and elderly parents approaching end of life, I am very conscious of the lack of care in our hospitals.
The NHS has got behind the trans movement in such a phenomenal way as evidenced by the NHS Fife tribunal, trending on Mumsnet, that they cannot say they do not have the resources to improve care for the elderly and mentally ill. They lack the desire to do so not the funds.

On a visit to an elderly person’s ward recently, I heard a lady ask for the toilet. There is no doubt that the health care assistants were busy but instead of acknowledging the lady’s request, they ignored her. When I went to them and told them that this lady needed the toilet, they told me that she had a pad. As a result, I did not leave my mother’s side for duration of her stay, other than overnight.
What has happened to some of the people working in the NHS that this is acceptable? What is wrong with the management?
I agree with a previous poster who said that we need to take the NHS off its pedestal and acknowledge the dire situation that it is in

HappierTimesAhead · 04/09/2025 12:58

PearlClutzsche · 04/09/2025 12:45

I didn’t mean that as a criticism of Valerie’s family. Not at all. My heart goes out to them.

As I said, “after reading this…”

Oh yes, I didn't think you meant that at all. Sorry, I was just thinking how awful it must be for them given that they were probably worried for her safety anyway.

Lalgarh · 04/09/2025 13:01

Is there already a petition?

Strzyga · 04/09/2025 13:01

Fucking hell.

My MIL died this year, and the thought of someone doing anything like this to her in her most vulnerable time makes me both incredibly angry and emotional

SeaBreezeDewberryMusk · 04/09/2025 13:02

whatwouldafeministdo · 04/09/2025 10:49

To a certain extent I have sympathy for staff, after all this nurse has been suspended for calling a convicted violent paedophile who used a racist slur against her 'mister'. They must be scared for their jobs if they speak up about predators. South London nurse takes legal action after NHS punished her for calling transgender paedophile ‘Mr’ | The Standard

This 100%
Whistleblowers, and those who have the nerve to speak up when things go wrong are penalised / punished. Their names get dragged through the mud while the perpetrators and bullies get away with it, they’re not held accountable.
This is why a lot of staff won’t speak up when they see wrongdoing.
How anyone can be a bystander when it comes to something as horrific as this I will never know.

advertisingshenans · 04/09/2025 13:02

Change2banon · 04/09/2025 12:41

You don’t think the family have been fighting for answers since this happened 7 years ago?! 🙄😡

I’m really glad to hear that. No need to be snippy with me.

MsTamborineMan · 04/09/2025 13:04

This is just so shocking, and horrendous on so many levels. Valerie has been utterly failed

I cannot believe her injuries were severe enough to cause internal bleeding to the point of death but no external evidence. No one noticed any external bleeding or injuries. "clotting", yet she was likely on blood thinners which is what would have triggered the bleeding in the first place. Did no one provide any proper care to her? No toileting care? No washes? Did they not change her sheets? No one mentioned her mattress was soaked with blood? Someone must have cleaned it. She was on the ward for 3-4days afterwards.

Not to mention that someone must have done this without anyone else noticing. It's unlikely she was the only patient who this happened to. They only did the post mortem because of the serious other failings on this ward, how many other patients were missed? How many other women have been victims and perhaps don't even know if patients were drugged on this ward?

CaroleLandis · 04/09/2025 13:05

Horrific.

I had the misfortune to be in Singleton hospital a few years ago and the nurses bar one who I only saw occasionally were vile and sadistic.

Lalgarh · 04/09/2025 13:05

Male nurse "in disbelief" at hearing of sexual assault claim on hospital ward

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clydydl3n49o.amp

"Mr Pover was also asked about an exchange with a health care assistant who had been asked to clean Mrs Kneale's body shortly after her death.

He said she had told him there was a large amount of blood on the bed which was "too much for someone to deal with", and had asked for assistance.

Another health care assistant then went to help her, the court heard.

Gareth Thompson, representing Mrs Kneale's family, asked Mr Pover why he had not raised the matter with anyone else, saying: "The nurse brought concerns to you. Why didn't you do your job and react to those concerns?"

Mr Pover said he honestly did not know.
He told the inquest that he thought he had underestimated the seriousness of the situation.
"I don't think I computed it as blood," he said.
Mr Pover also said the health care assistant had not appeared "overly upset" about the situation and so he did not appreciate the urgency."

Valerie Kneale, with shoulder-length grey curly hair, wears a pink, lilac and green floral blouse as she is photographed in a garden. She is standing in front of a pebble-dashed house with a white plastic door and windows.

Nurse 'in disbelief' hearing stroke patient suffered sex assault - BBC News

Matthew Pover was part of the nursing team looking after Valerie Kneale following her stroke in 2018.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clydydl3n49o.amp

cumbriaisbest · 04/09/2025 13:05

At nearly 70, I was brought up to respect the medical world. Unquestioningly.

Thankfully nothing like this but some very poor treatment.

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