Graham Linehan arrested on arrival at Heathrow Part 2

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First thread here

Started thread 2 as this seems destined to run for some time...

Well he lost that one. He and the fox killer have a similar success rate 😆

This is precisely it. Do not tell me two teir policing isn't in effect. You're either a friend or an enemy of the regime and the rules are different.

Most pertinent here, is: If a man invades a woman's space and is threatening, abusive, the police will do nothing. If a man suggests women should call the police, or punch this hypothetical man, he is arrested for threatening violence.

Arabella's point here is so important.

The Met police seem to be ideologically closer to the Taliban than supporting women's human rights here. The Met police are pretty clearly here saying women aren't free to defend themselves, and men suggesting how they might do so get arrested! They've done feck all to prevent sex crimes or prevent VAWG and have lots of sex offenders formerly in their ranks. They're not ensuring women have the single sex spaces they need to participate in public life. Why the hell are women's taxes funding them?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/03/graham-linehan-sue-metropolitan-police-trans-tweet-arrest/

'If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls.'

'The arresting officer told him: “On 19 April 2025, you published a post on X that was deemed to be intended to stir up hatred and incite violence on the grounds of sexual orientation.”'

What 'sexual orientation' does the officer mean, in relation to that tweet?

The moderate Labour Government, the feminist socialist philanthropist JKR, a bunch of women on the internet website MN, the right wing Tories, the hard right Farage, the UK communist party and the left wing Owen Jones and the head of the Met ALL agree that there is a problem with the arrest of Glinner by five armed coppers at Heathrow...

... Is this time for a 'are we the bad guys' moment and some self reflection on the "you are aligned with Nazis" type accusations?

Oh my.

I already felt really unsafe in London with the number of homeless men on the streets, the number of muggings and thefts which the police do nothing about. I'm not rushing back now they've shown - yet again - their anti-woman bias. The culture that encouraged Wayne Couzens has obviously not changed.

The first thing they need to do to restore women's trust in the police is fire whoever made the decision to spend so much of their police resources arresting Graham when I can guarantee there are women being stalked and harassed in London right now that have had absolutely no support at all from the police and who probably reached out for help at the same time as they were wasting their time on illegally arresting Graham.

I hope the Met are going to report themselves for suggesting that sometimes women may have to resort to self defence

www.aroundealing.com/news/free-womens-only-self-defence-course/

Ahhh so the Met Police official line is that being transgender is a sexual orientation?

Is this correctt?

Because if it is, it's a) legally inaccurate b) quite the transphobic statement to suggest that being transgender is a sexuality....

(Snigger)

Ooh, good point! And now he's going to sue them.

I do hope the Free Speech Union can afford NC. That would be such fun!!

Well that's all the fault of Stonewall jamming the T in with the LGB. To a certain extent I don't blame a few dim police for being confused, this was designed to obfuscate.

Not a "seems" see the Baroness Casey report. Found to be institutionally misogynistic (plus racist and homophobic).

Maybe they consider AGP to be a sexual orientation and are lumping all trans in the AGP boat? Isn't that awfully transphobic too?

FFS this poor man, the PM should issue an apology to him and the whole nation.

Thanks x

Quite.

Labour really need to get a grip on what is seen as heavy handedness on basic freedom of speech. It's too easy to link that Starmer's wife is Jewish and people holding signs saying they don't condone genocide getting arrested, blocking our legal system at an already stretched time, as well as his inability to tell the country what a woman was until told he simply MUST, but now happily sending armed police to a famous comedian landing in the country for expressing that he knows basic biology and women should defend against any man breaking the law by being in a female toilet. Would 5 armed police do this to protect the woman in Starmer's "I guess they aren't women then" world? He can't be so personally attached to this debates that rock the country and cost the tax payer while he is getting Reeves to raise taxes.

@JSMill

I can’t remember the name of the school, it was certainly in the 80s. We were discussing it on the first thread.

A TRA on here recently wouldn’t engage in the philosophical discussion around whether trans age was as valid in his opinion as trans gender.

Of course they couldn’t because the man in question was claiming to be female & also a 6 year old girl.

The whole story was so sick & ridiculous. They had to dismiss it as a one off on the internet & wouldn’t engage. I think even they realised that trying to argue that yes he’s female but no he’s not a little girl was a can of worms!

Yes that confused me. I didn’t think trans identity was a sexual orientation. I think as it says in the article somewhere this calls into question the grounds for the arrest. What a farce.

And if they are assuming all trans identified men in women's toilets to be AGP then that rather reinforces the point Glinner is making about it being an abusive act against women. Because they're using non-consenting women as part of their sexual fetish. It is abusive and aggressive.

Funnily enough though, there are hundreds of men who say they're trans posting pictures of themselves on bluesky / twitter and other SM in women's labelled single sex spaces with aggressive messages towards women. The Met police don't seem that bothered about that violent incitement to hatred. Despite the documentary evidence of genuinely sexually harassing acts. I've never heard of a single arrest despite this evidence of harassment and incitement to violence.

If even Keir Starmer has spoken against the arrest then that has to be the best own goal ever scored.

Mind you what Starmer said is pretty wishy-washy. There do need to be more specific and objective criteria about what counts as a "serious issue" that could merit an arrest. Otherwise there is too much scope for political manipulation, malicious accusations and abuse of process. Leaving it purely as an operational matter for the police isn't working.

Not sure if this was maybe shared on the first thread already:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/00907863-faa7-4d03-a108-591828ee3754?shareToken=e02a142fb3c341f8ed26643ab3d75900

There's quite honestly no justification. If those tweets are an arrestable offence, so much more so is the tsunami of threats and abuse from TRAs that's been ignored for years. Even the usual suspects are (mostly) sitting this one out.

This seemed predictably unpleasant from the Guardian today, seeming to characterise the response to the arrest as aggression whereas I heard distress.

www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/sep/03/how-graham-linehan-gender-activism-led-to-comedian-career-and-personal-armageddon

God I hope so.

I can’t wait to hear the justifications trotted out by the talking heads in the days to come. Freda ‘Fred’ Wallace, India ‘Jonathan’ Willoughby, Robin ‘Moira’ Stuart.

Hopefully the sight of these whinging blokes will help peak a few more.

Elephant. Meet. Room.

The only political leader who has spoken against the police on this subject is Zack from The Greens.

The Greens who have form for a number of particularly unpleasant and dodgy TRAs - before they were eventually kicked out for being too extreme.

They've also had a lengthy history of anti-women policy and lost several legal battles against members in this area.

Does this mean the Greens are a hot bed for incubating extremists until they became too extreme even for the Greens?

We should 'take actions' (said in a very meaningful and deliberate and in no way sarcastic tone). Perhaps we should set Prevent on the Green Party? What could possibly go wrong there?! (Note even more sarcasm).

At this point, where does it leave those particular would be political representatives who got kicked out for being too extreme on transactivism for the Greens?

At what point are the police and politicians going to admit we have a militant TRA problem in this country that's got out of hand?

The GLP are doing some good work in this department.

We can't be far off that next tipping point. It's coming.