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Graham Linehan arrested on arrival at Heathrow

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IDareSay · 02/09/2025 10:30

Arrested again! Details on his Substack. This is beyond a joke; 5 armed officers!

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/i-just-got-arrested-again

I just got arrested again

I arrived back in London to discover the UK is still a police state run by trans activists

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/i-just-got-arrested-again

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RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 12:27

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 12:15

But they are trying to be nice to transpeople (which is fair enough) without saying the elephant in the room.

The elephant in the room at this point is there is a small but significant minority of transpeople who are transcels and/or militant extremists who need to be reigned in

We only ever got to this point because of this truth.

We can't say this because it's 'transphobic' to say negative things about transpeople.

This is where we've gone wrong from the start: We've made it all about identity rather than about behaviour.

Separate behaviour from identity and the problem of 'toxic behaviour' disappears. It just becomes about is it reasonable or not reasonable and you restore the concept of mutual respect.

It is not reasonable for males to be in female single sex facilities and women have a reasonable belief to be fearful if they encounter a male in those facilities. Males claiming to be females is not reasonable behaviour because biology. Transwomen wanting respect and dignity too is reasonable but if you are shouting that you are biologically female at the same time makes it unreasonable.

This is not difficult.

A politician needs to get their head of their arse and just fucking say this.

I should stress what made me 'peak' was the realisation that behaviour wasn't treated equally: things that would be unacceptable by others is tolerated when it shouldn't be.

We need to get back to unacceptable behaviour being recognised as such rather than people excusing it or tripping over themselves to be polite in the face of unreasonable behaviour because they are more bothered about being smeared as being 'mean' than addressing shit behaviour.

This should be gender identity neutral.

Males in single sex facilities are breaking the law. Why should women tolerate this?

Glinner tweet was qualified in saying doing X and y reasonable action first but if everything else failed it's ok to take steps to protect yourself in whatever way you can if you are failed by authority.

This is essentially fair and reasonable. A court is unlikely to convict you of a crime on this basis. You might be dragged through the legal system (and yeah Peggie Sandie case and Glinners case itself ultimately demonstrate this) but ultimately the law is all about reasonableness and whether you have acted rationally based on the circumstances.

And even if you are convicted, it's going to be amplified by the media as a huge injustice because it's ultimately at odds with the public understanding of reasonableness.

People are overwhelmingly nice and reasonable. All we are seeing is the an awareness of how dominant unreasonableness has become.

MNet ultimately gets this more than most precisely because of the whole trademark premise of am I being unreasonable...

Daygloboo · 03/09/2025 12:28

Daygloboo · 03/09/2025 12:23

You dont understand the true meaning of the word 'ilk'. It's not what people think it is. And my punctuation is pretty good If it is wrong in places, it's not because I dont know what doing; it's because I can't be arsed to correct what the text throws up.

And I find all this ' us ' and ' we' on here a bit disturbing too. Are you all plugged in to the one brain cell or something?

TheStrawHasBeenObliterated · 03/09/2025 12:28

No women being allowed to speak. Vine is utterly useless.

Appalonia · 03/09/2025 12:28

God this discussion is frustrating. Now talking about The Smiths ' Panic at the Disco.

And where are the women being allowed to speak about this?

ScrollingLeaves · 03/09/2025 12:31

Trans woman police officer Georgina speaking now who once worked in Heathrow.

They are always armed ignore that, he says.

The one who said ‘punch a Terf’ got arrested. This is the same.

He says it is the same as race. ‘What is the difference between race and gender?’

JV says race and gender are not the same.

No one gets that GL was saying males in the ladies who refuse to leave need
punching.

TheStrawHasBeenObliterated · 03/09/2025 12:33

TWO days ago he was speaking of the Camilla incident. Just two days later he is not giving a single word to women and why the kick/punch a male in the bollocks is a defence method passed down for bloody years to help give women some kind of way of protecting herself.

My blood pressure is at dangerous levels.

DoinFineIThink · 03/09/2025 12:33

Daygloboo · 03/09/2025 12:28

And I find all this ' us ' and ' we' on here a bit disturbing too. Are you all plugged in to the one brain cell or something?

Yeah, it's always the way on here - it's so weird!
If you don't 100% agree all the time, "you and your ilk" is trotted out.
Or "you and your mates " err, like everybody automatically knows each other?! But it's not a one mind hive mind clique in here, honest 😁

NeverOneBiscuit · 03/09/2025 12:34

I can’t listen to the bicycle bore these days. I never really feel that he has a strong opinion about anything (apart from cycling). It reminds me of the Mrs Merton show, ‘let’s have a heated debate!’

He's like a 6th former trying to sit on the fence/go with the prevailing wind - whatever seems safest.

I followed his brother the comedian, Tim Vine, on Twitter during the first lockdown. Lovely guy, not sure he’s Jeremy’s biggest fan.

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 12:35

ScrollingLeaves · 03/09/2025 12:31

Trans woman police officer Georgina speaking now who once worked in Heathrow.

They are always armed ignore that, he says.

The one who said ‘punch a Terf’ got arrested. This is the same.

He says it is the same as race. ‘What is the difference between race and gender?’

JV says race and gender are not the same.

No one gets that GL was saying males in the ladies who refuse to leave need
punching.

Where do they acquire these talking heads?

There's never a normal woman going "yeah I've been sexually assaulted in the past and the police do fuck all, and I've never heard of a sexual harasser complaining to the police after targeting a woman illegal and getting kneed them in the balls for the trouble because we have no other bloody option".

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 12:37

TheStrawHasBeenObliterated · 03/09/2025 12:33

TWO days ago he was speaking of the Camilla incident. Just two days later he is not giving a single word to women and why the kick/punch a male in the bollocks is a defence method passed down for bloody years to help give women some kind of way of protecting herself.

My blood pressure is at dangerous levels.

Imagines the headline

"Jeremy Vine leads calls for the Queen to be arrested for inciting violence"

ThatCyanCat · 03/09/2025 12:39

I used the word "ilk" in an essay when I was 14. My teacher said I was very clever <<preens>>

ScrollingLeaves · 03/09/2025 12:41

J V just actually said: “If a trans female enters a female space.”

He is too stupid to ever listen to again.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 12:44

ScrollingLeaves · 03/09/2025 12:41

J V just actually said: “If a trans female enters a female space.”

He is too stupid to ever listen to again.

Edited

I never have listened to him and never intend to. I’ve never heard anything about his show which suggests it would be a good use of time or stress hormones, but maybe that’s unfair.

miraxxx · 03/09/2025 12:50

TheKeatingFive · 03/09/2025 12:13

What?

A drag queen on BBC radio with Nicky Campbell said the same. That is the establishment line, the last scrape of the barrel: "Imagine saying kick em in the balls to a muslim, jew or black person". Ridiculous but they are making Glinner's case for him.

miraxxx · 03/09/2025 12:53

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2025 12:35

Where do they acquire these talking heads?

There's never a normal woman going "yeah I've been sexually assaulted in the past and the police do fuck all, and I've never heard of a sexual harasser complaining to the police after targeting a woman illegal and getting kneed them in the balls for the trouble because we have no other bloody option".

They deliberately obfuscate because their audience, many of whom inhabit MN, take every lazy, stupid illogical thing they spout on faith and rarely check the direct quotes or reports for context and actual truth.

CountryMouse22 · 03/09/2025 12:54

Pluvia · 02/09/2025 10:52

I posted on the same subject within a matter of seconds of you, OP. Checked the board before I wrote my post and by the time I'd pressed Post yours was up. I've asked for mine to be removed.

My own blood pressure is through the roof at the thought of this. As Graham says, hundreds of sex offenders allowed to walk free from court and five armed police officers to arrest him at Heathrow. Something is really badly wrong: there must exist a way of intervening to prevent these deranged vexatious litigants from doing this.

'deranged vexatious litigants'
Love it!

SirBasil · 03/09/2025 12:55

not sure where you are but you can report to twitter any and all posts that break the law where i am (slightly complicated because you have to refer to the law which has been broken)

What did they say when you reported them?

EasternStandard · 03/09/2025 12:56

CountryMouse22 · 03/09/2025 12:54

'deranged vexatious litigants'
Love it!

Sue them?

lcakethereforeIam · 03/09/2025 12:58

Nrtt. I've started reading a book on Celtic mythology. Just got to a bit where an Irish hero has a geas placed upon him by weird 'woman' with a beard down to her knees who talks out of the side of 'her' face. It reminded me of the 'tp people have always been with us' trope 😄 and of Glinner's bail condition to stay off X.

ThatCyanCat · 03/09/2025 12:59

lcakethereforeIam · 03/09/2025 12:58

Nrtt. I've started reading a book on Celtic mythology. Just got to a bit where an Irish hero has a geas placed upon him by weird 'woman' with a beard down to her knees who talks out of the side of 'her' face. It reminded me of the 'tp people have always been with us' trope 😄 and of Glinner's bail condition to stay off X.

It's not the sides of their faces these people talk out of.

MoltenLasagne · 03/09/2025 13:01

I keep coming back to the words of the judge in the Harry Miller case where he said, "In this country we have never had a Cheka, a Gestapo or a Stasi. We have never lived in an Orwellian society."

That was 5 years ago when the police were clearly told not to focus on non-crime "hate" incidents and to start doing actual work rather than "checking thinking". Now they've escalated to arresting a comedian. I wonder when they're going to give an official name to their thought crime unit to add it to the above list.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-51501202

miraxxx · 03/09/2025 13:01

DoinFineIThink · 03/09/2025 12:33

Yeah, it's always the way on here - it's so weird!
If you don't 100% agree all the time, "you and your ilk" is trotted out.
Or "you and your mates " err, like everybody automatically knows each other?! But it's not a one mind hive mind clique in here, honest 😁

Because you lot have nothing in common at all when you come troll FWR...and we must pretend not to notice. Of course this is a gender realist forum, we coalesce around certain viewpoints but not uniformly. For example, not everyone here loves Glinner. But no one is summarily banned for wrong thought like at the fora transactivists (No debate!) like to hold sway over. At worst the women here will laugh at you.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 13:03

R4 now…

DoinFineIThink · 03/09/2025 13:04

"you lot" 🙄😁
Yet I bet you still like to pretend it's not an echo chamber of only one view allowed in here.
Oh and you realise you're talking to other women as well, right? As we're all individuals with our own minds.

ArabellaScott · 03/09/2025 13:07

MoltenLasagne · 03/09/2025 13:01

I keep coming back to the words of the judge in the Harry Miller case where he said, "In this country we have never had a Cheka, a Gestapo or a Stasi. We have never lived in an Orwellian society."

That was 5 years ago when the police were clearly told not to focus on non-crime "hate" incidents and to start doing actual work rather than "checking thinking". Now they've escalated to arresting a comedian. I wonder when they're going to give an official name to their thought crime unit to add it to the above list.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-51501202

Aye, the 'yet' was silent in that judge's speech.

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