What would you actually do if you saw a transperson in the wrong toilet/changing room for their sex?

[FattyMcFattyArse]

I've been pondering this ever since the FWS decision and since I saw an obviously male transperson using the ladies at a service station. I initially froze and wanted to say something, but all my Britishness and female social conditioning made me just mutter under my breath and walk away in disgust.

What would you do?

What have you done?

What is the right thing to do?

They don't belong there, according to the law.

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Their presence is harmful. And illegal.

Men don't have to threaten or harm. They simply have no right to be in that space, whereas women have the right to privacy and dignity, as well as the right to feel safe away from men in that space.

And therein lies the problem....

Wouldn't that be a job for your husband?

What would you want me to do?? Whilst I am actually not actually in agreement with her using the female toilet, she is permitted to do so and does it without causing any threat to anyone. She is also my colleague and if I made a massive fuss then it would be me that got in trouble with the DEI people and disapproved of by my colleagues who all support her.

But what if he's a so-called "cis" man who has experienced violence using the male facilities - maybe he's because he's gay, or odd in some way, or has just been randomly targeted by a thug? Should this "cis" man get to be safe by using the women's toilets?

I find using my eyes works pretty well to determine someones sex

Men Aren’t allowed in Women’s toilets as I said upthread.
The police can remove them. !!!
The SC ruling confirmed single sex means single sex

Has anyone ever mistaken you for a trans woman before?

Have you been hiding under a rock since before the Supreme Court judgment?

Wouldn’t bother me at all.

No it isn’t.

Then I really don't know what the answer is....

He isn't permitted to use the women's toilets. If your organisation is allowing him to do so they are removing the right of women to use single sex toilets and can be challenged legally. Have they advised that the toilets are now unisex?

I take it you haven't heard of Katie Dolatowski then?

of course not he’s a man

If only those who claim to not care a jot about any risk of male sexual offences could volunteer to be the ones to absorb all the risk. Rather than not giving a shit about it possibly happening to others who do not consent for men to take any opportunity they wish.

I think of how a father waited outside the women’s toilets whilst his daughter went inside. A male went into the women’s toilets and attacked her - Katie Dolatowski. A lovely loopholes for violent sexual perverts.

And you just know if a priest was in there in his cassock peeping, exposing or caressing himself, they’d be damning the church. However, a similar male creep in a flowery dress peeping, caressing or exposing himself would just be lauded as so authentic to himself. All the love is for male perverts now. Their victims, not so much. It is a bit of a throwback with different untouchable class, isn’t it?

edited: to correct spelling.

I think this is what the majority of women would do. We have been raised not to cause a scene, or upset anyone else, even when our own safety is threatened and our spidey senses are screaming at us.

Yes it is. They have no legal right to use them and they are causing harm by forcing themselves into a space they have no right to use to the detriment of privacy, dignity and the rights of women to feel safe.

Womens single sex spaces are for members of the female sex only and male people must not use them. Take it up with the Supreme Court.

Your employer is breaking the law by permitting him to use the women's toilets.

So who do we keep safe in the womens toilets, the man or women and girls.

There's only one logical answer.
We're not here to keep men safe, that's the mens job.

Honestly, I’d do and think the same as op.

I know this because on holiday recently I was in the women’s toilet block of a restaurant which was in a beach resort. There were 2 toilet cubicles with gaps under the doors and a shared sink outside of the cubicles. You entered the toilet with a passcode.

i was just going into the cubicle as i was desperate for the loo, when there was a loud knocking on the outer door and a woman shouted “can we get in, she’s desperate for the toilet “ I opened the outer door to see who was knocking and there was a man, woman and small girl. The woman said, can she come in as she needs a wee and I said yes as there were 2 toilets and the man then brought the child into the women’s toilets (the woman stayed outside). I did feel a bit weird being in the next cubicle- not threatened as obviously he was with a child- but it just felt really odd. Especially as no one else was around and it was a small, confined space where you could hear everything.

Afterwards I thought perhaps I should have said something, but I just got out asap.

Okay, but I’m still not doing anything about it because this particular person is the only trans woman and isn’t causing any harm. If I make a fuss it’s me that will end up being universally hated by my colleagues, who all support this person. And I need my job