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This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..

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CurlewKate · 18/08/2025 05:44

If you don't think she is please don’t post. Please can you tell me specifically what she has said or done that is so bad. I promise that I will listen and not argue. If you could include links that would be great. If your inclination is to assume that I’m posting in bad faith and any reasonably well informed person must be stupid or bigoted not to know, then please just let the thread die.

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MarieDeGournay · 19/08/2025 09:34

.... we were here doing this feminist stuff centring women before JKRowling said owt about wombs.
Well said, RedToothBrush , and that also goes for your wonderful long post at 08.25, I'm saving it to savour itSmile

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 09:35

Helleofabore · 19/08/2025 09:28

I think this thread, like so many other JK Rowling threads shows the double standards where she has to be ‘X’ times better than anyone else to escape censure. She has to absorb so much abuse and she will never be good enough to some people.

And anyone pointing this out is relegated to being ‘fan girls’ and such.

100%

Women get cancelled for far less than men.
Transwomen just don't cancelled. In fact they can say the most homophobic, racist, sexist and encourage actual violence against women and they probably will earn themselves an invite to a interview on the 6 o'clock news.

What really irks males is they haven't been able to cancel JKRowling like all the other pesky women.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 19/08/2025 09:39

DontStopMeNowGoodTime · 19/08/2025 01:24

This has been debunked time and time again. You are about 3 years late @RapidOnsetGenderCritic
But please post your evidence.

@StMarie4me is not RapidOnsetGenderCritic. Not that it matters, but the idea that JKR chose her pseudonym to spite gay people is laughable.

Helleofabore · 19/08/2025 09:42

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 09:31

I've got up and made breakfast and I'm STILL chuckling at the idea that posters thought that a thread on FWR full of misogyny and bizarre unequal expectations of men v women in terms of morality and social responsibility would go unchallenged because of 'good faith' when it happens to be about JKRowling and FWR is 'just' a JKR fanclub!

Mate.....

.... we were here doing this feminist stuff centring women before JKRowling said owt about wombs.

The dissonance I experience every time a person posts that she should ignore the abuse she gets from well known male abusers is very high. I don’t believe those posting in that fashion know just what they are ultimately supporting. Albeit indirectly supporting.

But still, those holding her to unreal expectations surely forget that she is an author. She is not in a position where she is absorbing personal abuse for the ‘position’ such as a PM is expected. She is an author.

Yet these posts indicated that she is expected to act in ways that a country’s head of state should act. Along with all these campaigns to fix policies that are not working etc.

Mind you, all to suit people’s individual wish list of political aims. And if she deviates from person’s list, she is apparently worthy of being labelled ‘awful’ or worse.

She is held to account like no author I know.

And fuck, comments about the cigar and whisky photo. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I see that on a feminist board she is subject to such negative criticism about that photo. It is like the point of it sailed right over some people’s head.

lifeturnsonadime · 19/08/2025 09:46

I still can't understand how she is supposed to be responsible for one group of teenagers bullying someone's friends children?

All over a tweet that she didn't actually write,

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 09:50

TheLudditesWereRight · 19/08/2025 08:38

This is such a tiresome argument.
a) it's possible to try and reduce the harm of your consumption without being perfect
b) your average punter does not have the clout, platform and agency that JKR has with manufacturers. Though TBF she has lost some of it by burning up a lot of goodwill

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What’s tiresome is how you and other posters are always looking for ways to tarnish JKR because she stands up for women. What’s tiresome is expecting perfection from someone you don’t even know when you are almost certainly not a perfect person yourself.

The difference is, most of the women who support her have absolutely no expectation of her perfection, because we are wise enough to know that it doesn’t and shouldn’t exist, it’s a very male trait to expect perfection in women, especially self obsessed men who believe they themselves can be women.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 09:51

lifeturnsonadime · 19/08/2025 09:46

I still can't understand how she is supposed to be responsible for one group of teenagers bullying someone's friends children?

All over a tweet that she didn't actually write,

You just have to BELIEVE that she did that because the poster said she did. Apparently.

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 09:53

Helleofabore · 19/08/2025 09:42

The dissonance I experience every time a person posts that she should ignore the abuse she gets from well known male abusers is very high. I don’t believe those posting in that fashion know just what they are ultimately supporting. Albeit indirectly supporting.

But still, those holding her to unreal expectations surely forget that she is an author. She is not in a position where she is absorbing personal abuse for the ‘position’ such as a PM is expected. She is an author.

Yet these posts indicated that she is expected to act in ways that a country’s head of state should act. Along with all these campaigns to fix policies that are not working etc.

Mind you, all to suit people’s individual wish list of political aims. And if she deviates from person’s list, she is apparently worthy of being labelled ‘awful’ or worse.

She is held to account like no author I know.

And fuck, comments about the cigar and whisky photo. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I see that on a feminist board she is subject to such negative criticism about that photo. It is like the point of it sailed right over some people’s head.

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I think it shows up just how much people have thought about anything.

This is one of those threads where I do wonder just how much posters have engaged their brains before touching the keyboard.

The number of people who think they know everything about JKRowling and have utterly shown themselves up is amusing.
The number of people who think 'it says this thread is only for people who don't like JKRowling therefore the only people who will post are people like me' is amusing.
The number of people who think that its rational to expect JKRowling to be responsible for x, y or z for the HP franchise after selling film and merch rights is out of touch and unrealistic. And really really funny.

Its like a parallel dimension of not understanding how the world works at a basic level.

But then here we are, with a bunch of people thinking that you can magically change sex and anyone who doesn't believe that is anti-science and out of touch.

Asking them to have the faintest clue about the concept of sexism probably is going to be a bit of a stretch.

If I didn't laugh I think I'd had to lock myself in a room and sit rocking there for the rest of my life.

lifeturnsonadime · 19/08/2025 09:55

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 09:51

You just have to BELIEVE that she did that because the poster said she did. Apparently.

Did what though?

I'm totally baffled,

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 09:55

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 08:25

This thread is funny.

Why do you dislike JKR?

Because she smoked a cigar and drank whiskey and I hate that photo
Cos she said all those transphobic things I can't find a quote for
Cos she hasn't done enough for charity or given away enough money
Cos she started talking about politicians being blind to all the hate they stir up and reminded everyone of their behaviour at Indie Ref
Cos she thrust totally a innocent transwoman into the spotlight, who didn't deserve it despite harassing her for years
Cos she's mean to India on Twitter when India isn't getting enough attention
Cos she's got obviously dyed hair and talks about the importance of words having meaning
Cos she dares to claim to be a feminist
Cos she stopped all debate in Scottish politics by wearing a t-shirt in protest at no debate and that's not eloquent or classy enough
Cos she's got too much money
Cos she's got too many political opinions and said them out loud.
Cos she's far right politically cos she's aligned with Trump and to the right of Nigel Farage
Cos she's compared someone saying that 14 year olds shouldnt be infantilised and are responsible for their bigotry with what creepy paedos say.
Cos she's excluded transwomen in her charity work - for setting up a women's only rape crisis centre
Cos she's helped to fund court cases defending women's rights and she should have spent the money better
Cos she's fallen out with all the Harry Potter cast apart from the old gits and the bloke who plays Malfoy
Cos she's guilty of child exploitation because some fast fashion chain might have had unethical factories illegally employing children and it's all her fault for creating Harry Potter
Cos she's responsible for Daniel Radcliffes addiction problems because he couldn't handle the fame of being an child actor. She should have recruited adults to the lead roles or insisted on never selling the movie rights because Hollywood exploits children. She's responsible for those children because movie executives and greedy parents are happy to use them.
Cos she's hateful and uses her power in a way that I don't approve of whilst simultaneously not doing enough with her power
Cos she's not done enough for children.
Cos she's responsible for global warming and plastic pollution because of Harry Potter merch.
Cos she's given too much business to China and that threatens global security
Cos she's over privileged and punches down. She weaponises rape and trauma of women against transwomen when she talks about her experience of domestic violence and poverty as a single parent. She shouldn't be allowed to talk about such things.
Cos she didn't support Glinner enough
Cos she doesn't treat transwomen as individual people who are just women and who should be treated just like women, whilst I can't define how women should be treated
Cos she challenged the Scottish hate crime laws and said she was willing to be arrested and we'd have no hate now if only those laws had passed
Cos she's 'dangerous' (sorry I can't actually find any reasoning or explanation of why she's dangerous)
Cos Nicola took her trying to hold power to account personally and thought it was vicious to challenge the political position of the First Minister of Scotland who had repeated refused to engage on the subject and had instead thrown accusations of bigotry about
Cos she publicly correctly sexed some males including some sex offenders when they identify as women thus embarrassing a bunch of politicians who were hoping you wouldn't notice and ask them difficult questions
Cos she challenged Peter Tatchell prove humans can change sex and said it was as likely as him surviving jumping off a building by flapping his arms and this is apparently wanting him to harm himself
Cos she thinks wombs are important and that's hateful cos that excludes all women without a womb.
Cos Harry Potter tourism is ruining some cities
Cos she's anti-science
Cos she swears and writes on perfectly good books
Cos she's rich and talks about luxury beliefs
Cos she's a hypocrite because she's written under a male name
Cos she didn't criticise Elon Musk for his Nazi salute
Cos she is racist for supporting Sandie Peggie
Cos she dehumanised medical professional Dr Upton by calling him a male and criticising him for saying he felt unsafe around a woman a foot shorter than him and saying sex is a nebulous dog whistle and that he was biologically female.
Cos she's been retweeted by some people we don't like
Cos she's an old dried up hag, whose has dinosaur views and I look better than her
Cos my Mum agrees with her
Cos transwomen are more oppressed and she should suck it up without question so they are mildly less marginalised
Cos she's no Marcus Rashford.

  1. Women are responsible for what men do.
  2. Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
  3. Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
  4. Women’s opinions are violence against men, thus male violence against women is justified
  5. Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
  6. Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breastfeeding babies deserve punishment.
  7. Women should always be grateful to men for everything.
  8. Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
  9. Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.
10. The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad. 11. Whatever women suffer from, it is worse when it happens to men. 12. Women’s ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry. 13. Angry women are crazy. Angry men have trouble expressing themselves. 14. Women have all the rights they need: The right to remain silent. 15. Men are the default human. Women are strange subhuman others. 16. Everyone owns and controls women’s bodies except the women themselves. 17. Men are better at performing femininity than women are because they invented it and it gives them a boner.

HOUSE

Nailed it.

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 09:56

JKRowling could be the actual next messiah and she STILL would be 'getting it wrong' and not 'morally virtueous enough' for some of these people.

They just want to destroy her. And yet its supposedly her who is hateful.

And we are all supposed to not see this and pretend its not sexism.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 09:59

TheLudditesWereRight · 19/08/2025 08:45

By being spiky and unpleasant on her giant platform on social media.

Last reply from me for now, I have a meeting in a bit.

Spiky and unpleasant to men pretending they’re women who abuse her constantly? How very dare she?! She should just grovel to them and apologise for her nasty, hurty, words and get back to the kitchen. Who does she think she is with her OPINIONS?!!

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 10:01

lifeturnsonadime · 19/08/2025 09:55

Did what though?

I'm totally baffled,

Everything, anything, you name it, she did it. All the bad and evil in the world, it’s all down to her.

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 10:04

If JKRowling swatted a fly, she'd be responsible for a hurricane in Florida.

If JKRowling farted, she'd be responsible for the profileration of chemical weapons.

If JKRowling turned around in Spain, she'd be responsible for personally insulting the whole of Portugal for having her back to them.

If JKRowling ate a chinese from her local takeaway, she'd be supporting Xi Jinping and cheering on the Persecution of Uyghurs.

If JKRowling walked past a synagogue, she'd be funding the supply of weapons to Israel.

If JKRowling watched Ghostbusters, she'd be exploiting the undead and failing to uphold their dignity.

If JKRowling got the bus, she'd be mocking poor people and trying to appropriate their misery and suffering whilst also rubbing their noses in it.

THAT is the level we are at.

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 10:05

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 10:01

Everything, anything, you name it, she did it. All the bad and evil in the world, it’s all down to her.

Cross post.

😆

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/08/2025 10:07

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 10:04

If JKRowling swatted a fly, she'd be responsible for a hurricane in Florida.

If JKRowling farted, she'd be responsible for the profileration of chemical weapons.

If JKRowling turned around in Spain, she'd be responsible for personally insulting the whole of Portugal for having her back to them.

If JKRowling ate a chinese from her local takeaway, she'd be supporting Xi Jinping and cheering on the Persecution of Uyghurs.

If JKRowling walked past a synagogue, she'd be funding the supply of weapons to Israel.

If JKRowling watched Ghostbusters, she'd be exploiting the undead and failing to uphold their dignity.

If JKRowling got the bus, she'd be mocking poor people and trying to appropriate their misery and suffering whilst also rubbing their noses in it.

THAT is the level we are at.

👏 perfectly put

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/08/2025 10:10

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 19/08/2025 07:40

Yes, it's very interesting, isn't it? Marcus Rashford has undoubtedly done a lot of good, and his specific motivation for doing so doesn't take away from that. But if his motivation was to cultivate a superhero reputation for himself, that does stand in stark contrast to JK quietly donating vast sums to various charitable causes every year and then spectacularly sacrificing her own reputation in front of the entire world on the altar of a cause she truly believes in (women's rights). She knew that huge numbers of people would turn on her in the most vicious way imaginable if she spoke out, and instead of doing what most people would do and keeping her mouth shut, she thought, "I'm one of the richest women in the world, I'd better take one for the team."

YY.

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 10:12

"But why hasn't she done anymore feminism, she only does anti-trans stuff"

definitely is one of my personal faves.

BezMills · 19/08/2025 10:14

There shall at all times be at least one thread for Disgusted of Reddit to tell us off.

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LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 10:16

Bloozie · 19/08/2025 00:14

May we all find a love as strong as the love you lot feel for JK. It’s precious 🥰

May ‘you lot’ eventually find a grip on reality, it’s precious.

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 10:24

BezMills · 19/08/2025 10:14

There shall at all times be at least one thread for Disgusted of Reddit to tell us off.

'Outraged from Tunbridge Wells' for a new generation.

😂

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 10:25

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 10:16

May ‘you lot’ eventually find a grip on reality, it’s precious.

This thread is the thread that just keeps giving.

I have skimmed the thread in places and hadn't picked up on that gem. I'm dying!

😂😂😂

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 10:28

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 10:25

This thread is the thread that just keeps giving.

I have skimmed the thread in places and hadn't picked up on that gem. I'm dying!

😂😂😂

I have laughed out loud so many times so I suppose I should thank them for that!

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 19/08/2025 10:44

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 10:12

"But why hasn't she done anymore feminism, she only does anti-trans stuff"

definitely is one of my personal faves.

"WhY dOeS sHe SpEnD tImE dOiNg ThIs InStEaD oF dOiNg SoMeThInG tO aCtUaLly HeLp PeOpLe?" is an extraordinary criticism to make of the woman who turned millions of children worldwide into avid readers and has donated nearly a quarter of a billion pounds of her post tax personal income to charitable causes, isn't it?

Tell me you're a 🤡 without telling me you're a 🤡.

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