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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is it ever acceptable for women to tell men to fuck off?

105 replies

RedToothBrush · 12/08/2025 11:27

Or does it make us look unintelligent, unreasonable, unkind, irrational or uncouth so we shouldn't do it?

Should we care about this?

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PestoHoliday · 12/08/2025 13:30

Aaron could go boil his head - of course we can tell people who very much need to fuck off to actively fuck the fuck off.

Nicola Sturgeon and her absolute nonsense pitching herself as the victim definitely needs to fuck the fuck off

OldBeyondMyYears · 12/08/2025 13:39

Hiptothisjive · 12/08/2025 11:40

No it’s never acceptable to tell anyone to fuck off because it’s rude and there are better ways of dealing with things - doesn’t matter if it’s a man or a woman.

I’m hoping you’re joking here…but if not, and this is seriously how you feel, then you really should try it! All language is just that, language! Having a good old ‘fuck off’ rant is sometimes appropriate!!

Yes, there’s ‘other words’ we could use, but telling an absolute COCK to ‘oh do stop being mean to me’ is a) not going to be effective, and b) not going to feel HALF as good as telling them to FUCK OFF YOU ABSOLUTE WANKER!

Use these fabulous words sparingly for an even greater effect…the wanker will know you mean business!

YouSaidWhaaat · 12/08/2025 14:28

MyLittleNest · 12/08/2025 13:21

Absolutely.

In recent years, I have seen a shocking amount of rudeness from men toward women in public. Chivalry is truly dead, but it goes beyond that.

One (of many!) example is that I was on holiday and at a pool. A family was taking up more than they needed, the kids never even used the chairs, and our family was stuck all sharing one chair. The wife announced they were leaving, started packing up, gathering the towels. As they were beside us, I quickly put one of our towels down on the now empty chair closest to me....and the husband started yelling at me. In front of his wife. In front of my husband. I politely explained that I thought they were leaving. He said, not right this second. Then he sat on that chair for the next thirty seconds until his children were 100% ready to leave, meanwhile the other three chairs his family were "using" sat empty at this point. He was so nasty and hostile toward me--all over a pool chair. In another generation, men wouldn't treat women that way. And in another generation, women might not have told men to F off either. But we are no longer in these times.

I wish I'd told that man to F off.

I wish you had told him to F off too. What an arrogant, entitled little bastard he is! Awful!

Screamingabdabz · 12/08/2025 14:32

I even tell my kids to fuck off! It’s very cathartic.

(context - they are adults and it’s usually in jest).

illinivich · 12/08/2025 14:40

I think many retelling of stories where people calmly, politely, rationally put their point across and leave their opponent speachless, are a load of bollocks.

Either nothing was said, or it was a screaming match.

WearyAuldWumman · 12/08/2025 14:53

Hiptothisjive · 12/08/2025 11:40

No it’s never acceptable to tell anyone to fuck off because it’s rude and there are better ways of dealing with things - doesn’t matter if it’s a man or a woman.

I was threatened with violence by two teenage boys. (One made the verbal threat; the other stood behind him.)

I got out of the situation by yelling “Drop dead, shit features!”

It wasn’t the expected response and it stopped them in their tracks.

Sometimes, rudeness is both appropriate and necessary.

ScrollingLeaves · 12/08/2025 15:10

I always remember Helen Mirren saying in an interview,

Women have got to stop being polite. If I ever had children, which I don’t, the first thing I’d teach a girl of mine is the words “fuck off”.

sanityisamyth · 12/08/2025 15:13

murasaki · 12/08/2025 11:28

Yes
No
No

This.

ScrollingLeaves · 12/08/2025 15:15

@Hiptothisjive · Today 11:40
No it’s never acceptable to tell anyone to fuck off because it’s rude and there are better ways of dealing with things - doesn’t matter if it’s a man or a woman

This way of girls/women behaving - as they are brought up to do - can make rape be twisted by courts and perpetrators into something apparently consensual.

GailBlancheViola · 12/08/2025 15:16

It is always acceptable for a woman to tell men to fuck off.

Or does it make us look unintelligent, unreasonable, unkind, irrational or uncouth so we shouldn't do it?

None of the above.

Should we care about this?

No.

If men, or indeed anyone, does not like being told to fuck off don't behave in ways which will result in you being told to do so.

Shellyash · 12/08/2025 15:20

Depends on circumstances. Personally I virtually never swear as I find it pretty common and cheap, but in a circumstance when I really have to establish my authority with someone who is a bully/violent/steps way over the mark, I will use such carefully chosen words. At this point the other person understands they have crossed a line. Woman saying it to a man, certainly if the circumstances demand but not as a general thing.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 12/08/2025 15:20

JurassicPark4Eva · 12/08/2025 11:28

Fuck em.

Behold the field
in which I grow my fucks.
Lay thine eyes upon it
and thou shalt see
that it is barren.

😂

Hiptothisjive · 12/08/2025 15:39

RedToothBrush · 12/08/2025 11:47

Do you think every situation can be dealt with amicably and reasonably?

What if the other party isn't?

No but it still Isn’t necessary to say that to someone.

Hiptothisjive · 12/08/2025 15:40

OldBeyondMyYears · 12/08/2025 13:39

I’m hoping you’re joking here…but if not, and this is seriously how you feel, then you really should try it! All language is just that, language! Having a good old ‘fuck off’ rant is sometimes appropriate!!

Yes, there’s ‘other words’ we could use, but telling an absolute COCK to ‘oh do stop being mean to me’ is a) not going to be effective, and b) not going to feel HALF as good as telling them to FUCK OFF YOU ABSOLUTE WANKER!

Use these fabulous words sparingly for an even greater effect…the wanker will know you mean business!

Not joking but yea I love a good swear word.

Hiptothisjive · 12/08/2025 15:42

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How exceptionally rude and vulgar and completely uncalled for - exactly the point I was making .

Hiptothisjive · 12/08/2025 15:47

ScrollingLeaves · 12/08/2025 15:15

@Hiptothisjive · Today 11:40
No it’s never acceptable to tell anyone to fuck off because it’s rude and there are better ways of dealing with things - doesn’t matter if it’s a man or a woman

This way of girls/women behaving - as they are brought up to do - can make rape be twisted by courts and perpetrators into something apparently consensual.

What are you on about. Seriously.

WearyAuldWumman · 12/08/2025 15:48

Hiptothisjive · 12/08/2025 15:39

No but it still Isn’t necessary to say that to someone.

It absolutely is.

When my mother was 14 and working in Edinburgh (wartime) she was approached by a strange man who asked "Do you want to earn yourself 10 bob?" [No, he wasn't offering her a job.]

She yelled "Bugger off!" and ran back to her place of work.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 12/08/2025 15:49

There's definitely people who need to be told to fuck off. Though mostly I say it under my breath at work when called away from my job. A certain someone I'll say it loud and proud to though.

whitewineandsun · 12/08/2025 15:51

Women should do it more often tbh.
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If men, or indeed anyone, does not like being told to fuck off don't behave in ways which will result in you being told to do so.

Simply this.

DuesToTheDirt · 12/08/2025 15:54

RedToothBrush · 12/08/2025 13:15

Why do I ask?

Well on another thread FWR was scolded for our tone and telling Nicola Sturgeon to fuck off because it leads to us looking like we are toxic and irrational and haven't got a reasonable argument by a poster named Aaron.

I firmly believe there are many situations where it is necessary to be blunt and to say fuck off for our safety as other forms of communication have been ignored.

I don't think we always even have to have a rational arguments. No should suffice, but having been in situations where men don't take no for an answer I do think it's fair to take the 'nuclear option' precisely because there's a filter that says unless woman gets angry they don't really mean it and can be somehow won around if a man keeps on.

It's always men who think women shouldnt be allowed to say no too. It's a form of social control that is particularly gendered. Women are not allowed to say fuck off in the same way as men. And this tends to be said by men for the benefit of men.

I thought it deserved its own thread for a bit of reflection on just how many ways women are controlled and aren't listened to because they have been so conditioned to be polite.

If polite worked all the time it'd be fair enough but unfortunately life isn't like that.

I am in favour of reasoned arguments over telling people to fuck off. But the GC crowd have plenty of reasoned arguments on FWR, and still some people think don't understand why we're angry.

In this instance though you were saying FO to Nicola Sturgeon, not the other poster, is that right? So to a woman, not a man? But a man told you off for it?

Anyway, I feel so insulted by Nicola's gratuitous "racist, homophobic, misogynist, transphobic" comments that she can indeed FOTTFSOFATFOSM.

thebraveryofbeingoutofrange · 12/08/2025 15:56

Often, when necessary, and with feeling.

NebulousSadTimes · 12/08/2025 16:30

In a mixed sex changing room, long before gender had even been thought of, a man came at me with an intention I was not willing to wait to find out. He was naked. A very loud and swift "FUCK OFF" was enough to have him scuttling away like the snivelling cunt he was.

Yes, it is acceptable. Of course. Sadly it doesn't always work.

DeanElderberry · 12/08/2025 16:39

I startled my dear mother (who disapproved of sweary language) once long ago when we were on a weekend cultural trip to London and an over-insistent beggar (posh accent, expensive glasses) started walking very very close beside me demanding money. I said no thank you once. I said no thank you twice. Then I turned round and said F O loudly, which was extra effective since he was only about a foot away.

He was startled too, and whined, poshly, about how rude some people are.

My mother was unexpectedly amused.

Hurryupwearedreaming · 12/08/2025 16:44

After saying, no thanks, then no, Fuck Off is the most logical next step.

lnks · 12/08/2025 16:48

Hiptothisjive · 12/08/2025 15:39

No but it still Isn’t necessary to say that to someone.

How about when I was being followed through town late at night as a young woman with nobody else around? Do you think I should have had a polite conversation with that man?