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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Nicola Sturgeon says her sexuality isn't binary

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cigarsmokingwoman · 08/08/2025 18:55

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In the sun newspaper and I think also on STV news (according to my DM)

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UnpaintedLily · 12/08/2025 09:23

@Igneococcus The Times are doing their best to make sure nobody who wants to know what is in the memoir needs to buy it with their extensive coverage of it
The Times probably payed handsomely for the serialisation rights and the nippy wee sweetie or her agent presumably calculated that the deal maximises both exposure and income. Plenty of people will only hear about it because of the extensive media coverage driven by this deal.

Can't help thinking she's got some brass neck to tell us all she's thinking of relocating to London (why the hell does that make R3's minimalist news bulletins?) because of the Scottish goldfish bowl at the same time as launching a publicity blitz for her book...

Igneococcus · 12/08/2025 09:33

UnpaintedLily · 12/08/2025 09:23

@Igneococcus The Times are doing their best to make sure nobody who wants to know what is in the memoir needs to buy it with their extensive coverage of it
The Times probably payed handsomely for the serialisation rights and the nippy wee sweetie or her agent presumably calculated that the deal maximises both exposure and income. Plenty of people will only hear about it because of the extensive media coverage driven by this deal.

Can't help thinking she's got some brass neck to tell us all she's thinking of relocating to London (why the hell does that make R3's minimalist news bulletins?) because of the Scottish goldfish bowl at the same time as launching a publicity blitz for her book...

Oh, I'm sure the Times paid a lot of money for it but they are also certainly milking it as much as they can and -based on the number of comments under the articles- they are getting a lot of clicks. I don't think it works out for NS how she thought it would. I think the more people read the less they like it.
Did they announce it on the R3 news? I listen to R3 but I must have been away from the computer for the news. I'm not going to miss her if she leaves Scotland.

maltravers · 12/08/2025 10:02

Yes, passionate advocate for Scotland and it’s independence moves to England. Smells like hypocrisy to me.

Lalgarh · 12/08/2025 10:10

I read last week that's she'd achieved her long time ambition to get a tattoo.

I would have thought her long term ambition was independence for Scotland but ok.

The R4 Today interview went into the trans stuff but didn't go into whether she used it as a specific lever to drive a wedge between Scotland and the UK government over legislation

Ladedahlia · 12/08/2025 10:16

So tattoo and learning to drive. Sounds like delayed adolescence.

Lalgarh · 12/08/2025 10:19

Has she learnt to drive that motorhome ha

DrUptonsWallofSad · 12/08/2025 10:46

Is the tattoo a trans flag?

Shellyash · 12/08/2025 11:18

The woman is corrupt in every walk of her life. Can't believe how many people actually voted for her. Horrible person through and through

NebulousSadTimes · 12/08/2025 12:53

maltravers · 12/08/2025 10:02

Yes, passionate advocate for Scotland and it’s independence moves to England. Smells like hypocrisy to me.

I see it as another 'fuck you' to the Scotland that let her down, as she sees it.

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/08/2025 12:55

Shortshriftandlethal · 12/08/2025 08:40

What does " everyone deserves to be who they are" actually mean? How can anyone ever be anything other than they are?

If it means to be free to express whatever you like....there are questions around that for the fact we live in a society and have to adapt ourselves, to an extent, to the conditions and expectations and rules of that society. Some things we have to keep private, to the confines of our own mind and imagination.You cannot ever not be who you are...but it is also necessary to recognise that not everything is about you.

I mean that it’s a shame in 2025 that some people in the public eye still feel that they have to hide who they are. Really, who cares?

Shortshriftandlethal · 12/08/2025 13:12

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/08/2025 12:55

I mean that it’s a shame in 2025 that some people in the public eye still feel that they have to hide who they are. Really, who cares?

Not everything has to be for public consumption, though, There is no need to share everything about yourself just because you are a public figure.

NebulousSadTimes · 12/08/2025 13:18

Shortshriftandlethal · 12/08/2025 13:12

Not everything has to be for public consumption, though, There is no need to share everything about yourself just because you are a public figure.

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And she's only sharing telling what she wants people to know believe. How much of it is true is another matter.

porridgecake · 12/08/2025 16:48

I have just laughed out loud at Tom Swarbrick who has not minced his words about NS, the insanity of her government, self ID and her book.

Waitwhat23 · 12/08/2025 17:12

Shortshriftandlethal · 12/08/2025 08:29

" I think that rapists probably should lose the right to self identify their gender".

This is nonsensical, in terms of trans ideology, in which you are either trans or you are not. It is not about "being allowed" to be who you are, surely?

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Her Government voted against amendments to stop GRC applications from convicted sex offenders. They even voted against pausing GRC applications for those in court for sexual offences against women.

Her Government (including the SPS as an executive agency) had specific policies in place that allowed convicted sex offenders to be placed in the female prison estate.

She is beneath contempt.

Arran2024 · 12/08/2025 17:18

Lalgarh · 12/08/2025 13:37

She's coming to That London

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-hints-could-escape-35716260?adf=#comments-wrapper

The comments section of the Daily Record are remarkably well mannered (so far)

I wonder if she has a new job lined up? Do Stonewall have anything going? That would fit.

mrshoho · 12/08/2025 17:26

Wouldn't be surprised if she ends up on loose women or gmb. I think gb news is safe though.

Waitwhat23 · 12/08/2025 17:43

She's been angling since the start of her reign for a cushy wee number at one of the big international organisations. She was styling herself a stateswoman and now that's all gone to pot because of the campervan/'the money was only resting in my account' debacle, she's now scrabbling around for media attention.

She won't go to London because she needs the parochial fawning from certain diehards here.

SionnachRuadh · 12/08/2025 17:59

They all get cushy numbers, don't they? Ursula von der Leyen was probably the worst German defence minister since 1945, and she got to head the European Commission. Jacinda Ardern, facing a landslide election defeat, left New Zealand for Harvard and the UN.

Finland's Sanna Marin had to be content with a gig at the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change, but I'm sure there will be a bigger opportunity soon.

I'm certain Sturgeon sees that as her real level, moving from Scotland onto the global stage. It might still happen, but all that murky financial stuff doesn't help.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 12/08/2025 18:03

Oh the irony of sturgeon moving to London when she did her utmost to ensure Scottish people would potentially be cut off from that as an option/opportunity.

BigAnne · 12/08/2025 18:20

Waitwhat23 · 12/08/2025 17:43

She's been angling since the start of her reign for a cushy wee number at one of the big international organisations. She was styling herself a stateswoman and now that's all gone to pot because of the campervan/'the money was only resting in my account' debacle, she's now scrabbling around for media attention.

She won't go to London because she needs the parochial fawning from certain diehards here.

All political leaders seek a cushy number to take up following their reign.

Arran2024 · 12/08/2025 19:20

I live in London and you would not believe how popular she is with left wing, middle class women - an SNP Jeremy Corbyn type. She may do very well here. Most people just remember her as not being Boris during covid.

Needspaceforlego · 13/08/2025 00:08

Arran2024 · 12/08/2025 19:20

I live in London and you would not believe how popular she is with left wing, middle class women - an SNP Jeremy Corbyn type. She may do very well here. Most people just remember her as not being Boris during covid.

Yeah the same class of women who'll probably never share a work changing room or hospital room with a male.

Let's not forget her other hair-brained idea, the named person scheme, giving the state parental rights over every child. So open to abuse and bullying.

ArabellaScott · 13/08/2025 08:02

Arran2024 · 12/08/2025 19:20

I live in London and you would not believe how popular she is with left wing, middle class women - an SNP Jeremy Corbyn type. She may do very well here. Most people just remember her as not being Boris during covid.

Plenty of support for her among middle class English people living in Scotland, too. It's curious. Wonder if it's purely a class thing.

She presents as a cheeky Scottish wumman, but in fact represents no threat at all.to the status quo and UK political scene.

Independence movement had to naicen itself to be palatable to the establishment, but ended up rolling over and becoming a docile pet, performing cartoon Scottish vim on demand while abandoning the movement for independence.

And SNP discovered a taste for fat salaries and good life as big fish in a small pond, running a pretendy parliament.

SionnachRuadh · 13/08/2025 08:32

I wonder about the class element. Lots of English lefties, not so very long ago, hated the SNP. I have an instinct more than a theory that the English left has mostly got rid of its working class element and become a vehicle for the self-interest of the PMC class, and they now recognise their own in the SNP.

I think sometimes about how the old SNP was a collection of warring factions and personalities only held together by the bigger cause, and how that's a metaphor for there being lots of different communities in a nation, and you flatten that out at your peril.

There were things that used to prevent the SNP from being naice. There were ideological crusaders. There was a very socially conservative rural element that used to be important (I remember, when she was in the European Parliament, Winnie Ewing struck up this odd couple friendship with Ian Paisley, and they were very effective when they worked together)

And there was definitely an element of the SNP base that was demographically and attitudinally similar to UKIP voters down south. To listen to Sturgeon you would think that all Scots were fanatical Remainers. You would not guess that 38% of Scots and a similar proportion of SNP voters voted Leave. I wonder where those Reform votes we're starting to see in Scotland come from. It would not surprise me if lots of them were former SNP voters.

A smarter and less vain leader would have recognised all this and worked with it. But she tried to remake the party and even the country to flatter her self-image, and look at the outcome.

But I suppose it got her into respectable society, and that's the main thing.