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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sex Matters crowd funding to challenge on the Ladies Pond

155 replies

IReallyLoveItHere · 13/07/2025 23:23

I don't know if links are allowed so I'll put it in next post to allow it to be deleted if needed.

Can look at Sex Matters website.

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PutThe · 15/07/2025 14:30

Harassedevictee · 15/07/2025 14:13

The interesting thing is, in the very remote possibility the CoL wins, they cannot then say “men” means biological men so the “men’s” pond automatically includes anyone who identifies as male. So all three ponds become mixed sex. After all there is no definition of how someone “lives as a man”.

Mmm, their present position is excluding males for not being trans. It's treating a male who identifies as a man less favourably than a male who doesn't.

angelinawasrobbed · 15/07/2025 15:18

I seem to remember (cos I was working there then) that the C of L inherited Hampstead Heath when the GLC was closed down, and gained a sizeable trust fund at the time to help run it. The language used in that trust deed, in the transfer documents, and in the original Act setting up Hampstead Heath as a public amenity will be key I reckon. They can’t just impose a meaning on ithat wasn’t intended originally in tbe governing documents.

(Ironically, a fairly early position from the Cof L was rhat the bathing areas should be closed because of the costs involved in maintaining and running them )

Apollo441 · 15/07/2025 15:29

If you lose them all the ponds are mixed sex. Start using the men's pond every time then, it's twice as big as the Ladies.

DialSquare · 15/07/2025 15:31

Christinapple · 14/07/2025 17:21

I thought JK Rowling was giving them all they money they needed. So why is there crowdfund after crowdfund?

You know what thought did? You thought you farted but you shit yourself.

Will donate when I get home later.

Datun · 15/07/2025 15:41

Blatantly ignoring the law.

There's no way the men are going to accept moustachioed women in mankinis in their pond.

They're just going to get fucking annoyed with Edward Lord.

Boston365 · 15/07/2025 22:58

Donated. Women shouldn’t have to continually self fund litigation in order to enforce their rights which have always existed under the equality act. It is absolutely outrageous!

borntobequiet · 16/07/2025 03:16

They're just going to get fucking annoyed with Edward Lord.

You’d hope so, but I expect that some will just get annoyed with the women.

Datun · 16/07/2025 07:31

borntobequiet · 16/07/2025 03:16

They're just going to get fucking annoyed with Edward Lord.

You’d hope so, but I expect that some will just get annoyed with the women.

Naturally!

But when they complain, and find out the background, I think they might well get it

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2025 20:36

We’ve come across this “journalist” before, she normally writes crap lifestyle fluff but is obviously vying for the Pick Me crown with similar female opinion writers.

moto748e · 16/07/2025 21:01

The link doesn't even work now. I could have done that better. The Indy is completely a lost cause, it's no different to The National, and sites like that.

Gardeninging · 16/07/2025 21:04

Oh for goodness sake

"Hi we're the City of London."
"We're really, really worried about upsetting people with a penis"
"Yes, sorry wimmin that's just how it is"
Says we.

Ok that's how it is!.

Well done to Sex Matters. They have more balls than the city of London.

NotMyRealAccount · 16/07/2025 21:41

Donated.

outofdate · 16/07/2025 21:44

If all three ponds become mixed sex, transwomen will have no incentive to go.

NotMeekNotObedient · 16/07/2025 22:16

Donated!

SabrinaThwaite · 16/07/2025 22:17

Rename the Women’s Pond ‘Terf Pond’ and the Mixed Pond ‘Lovely Ladies Pond’ and job done.

BezMills · 17/07/2025 06:39

SabrinaThwaite · 16/07/2025 22:17

Rename the Women’s Pond ‘Terf Pond’ and the Mixed Pond ‘Lovely Ladies Pond’ and job done.

bingo!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/07/2025 09:23

Good to see it going up steadily - 57.4% of 50k now covered.

SabrinaThwaite · 17/07/2025 12:10

The Independent reporting on this today:

https://archive.ph/e09az

moto748e · 17/07/2025 12:17

JFC! They really are lost to all hope. I can't believe they aren't losing readers.

PaterPower · 17/07/2025 13:19

SabrinaThwaite · 17/07/2025 12:10

The Independent reporting on this today:

https://archive.ph/e09az

From the Indie’s article:

“This might feel like a small battle, but if* *[the ladies’ pond] becomes yet another space where trans people can’t fully participate, then it becomes about regulating them out of public life,” they explain. “Not only is that awful for trans people. It’s awful for cisgender people, too, because trans people make our communities brighter, more diverse, and interesting. Any time we lose a public space that trans people can’t be included in is a tragedy for everyone.”

So there’s the mixed pond and the men’s pond open for their legitimate use. How exactly does stopping them from using the Ladies pond mean they’re being regulated “out of public life?!”

For that matter, how does barring TiMs from female loos, changing rooms, prisons or sports remove them from public life either? Such unfounded hyperbole.

Lottapianos · 17/07/2025 13:30

'It’s awful for cisgender people, too, because trans people make our communities brighter, more diverse, and interesting. Any time we lose a public space that trans people can’t be included in is a tragedy for everyone.”'

Oh dear god, what sanctimonious drivel 🙄

DialSquare · 17/07/2025 13:43

Lottapianos · 17/07/2025 13:30

'It’s awful for cisgender people, too, because trans people make our communities brighter, more diverse, and interesting. Any time we lose a public space that trans people can’t be included in is a tragedy for everyone.”'

Oh dear god, what sanctimonious drivel 🙄

I was just going to say the same. How can anyone not be embarrassed to be this fawning and simpering?

404PageNotFound · 17/07/2025 13:57

Also donated.

moto748e · 17/07/2025 14:06

I comment from time to time terfily on some of the Indy's witterings on FB, which are increasingly divorced from scientific fact, the truth, and much more. And always receive much more support than opposition. Only the blue-hairs are buying this, it's a losing formula for them.