We thought Owen Jones couldn’t get more odious.. He has proved us wrong!

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‘[Owen] seems to be upset because she had a chuckle about his erratic behaviour on Piers Morgan Uncensored last week. In response to an X user who wondered if Jones might have partaken of the white stuff before fidgeting and gurning his way through Morgan’s show, Rowling tweeted: “Well, he is known as Talcum X.”

Jones is hopping mad. He’s even written a 1,300-word screed on what a rotter Rowling is, which I’m sure we can all agree is a perfectly normal response to a woman making a joke.’

😂😂 and also 🤮🤢

Yes. Sadly. It’s true.

Well, strictly speaking amphetamine medication is one of the treatments for ADHD and has been demonstrated to be more effective than non stimulants for most patients.

Out of interest, how many times is Owen Jones allowed to offer unprovoked insults to JKR before you consider it reasonable for her to add him to her list of "Utter clowns it's entirely reasonable to take the piss out of when they make a twat of themself"?

Because I'm pretty sure he has taken it upon himself to comment about her when she wasn't talking to him and was talking about somethign she considers important a lot more times than the other way round.

Absolutely. Not just on X, either. The papers do it.

She's used like a lightning rod.

Well yes, but regardless of how you cut it, the drugs aren't working for Owen.

Even if he has prescribed medication for ADHD, he needs to get himself off to the GP pretty quick because he's clearly not got the right dosage.

Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they haven't heard you or understood you.

You: "Or maybe any foreign “imposing” of anything is always reprehensible." [Emphasis added]

You: "If your starting position is to “impose western concepts of women’s rights on Arab countries” then yes you ARE a coloniser and yes that is always a bad thing" [Emphasis added]

Me: Well no, I don't agree that it's always be reprehensible because imposing measures to immediately protect women and children from terrible suffering such as rape and murder is better than letting it happen just so that you can avoid feeling like a coloniser.

You: ?!?!?

And here's a bonus just to prove I've read the whole thing!

You: "What western commentators should strive to do is work WITH women’s rights organisations in those areas, as allies and supporters. Not conquerors. Understand what they need and provide that instead of dictating to them what the correct model is."

Me: I am not a total moral relativist so I think that there are things which are always wrong, no matter the context or what anybody says. Rape and extreme misogynist subjugation are two. It is absolutely preferable, better, superior not to have it in any culture. The correct model is always to prevent it being perpetrated immediately, whatever the locals might think.

Your system of weeks? Months? Years? during which you consult with local groups to see whether or not they might like you to stop it and, if so, how and in what time frame has the advantage of making damn sure that noone can level the accusation of "coloniser" or "conqueror" at you but the unfortunate disadvantage of standing by while tens, hundreds, thousands more women and children are brought to suffering in the meantime. My preference if at all possible is to start by imposing measures that prevent those same tens, hundreds or thousands from ever suffering and let people call me what they like.

We can then consult and sort out everything else from that starting point.

Your approach sounds terribly nice until you follow the thought through to its practical implications.

I fear this may be a waste of time, but at least it's here for others to read should they wish to.

Likely too high a dose but he may also be adjusting to it. I literally went 10 days straight without more than 3-4 hours sleep a night and was a wreck by the end of it.

Yes. Embarrassing for them really. Always men who think women might sometimes have penises, these mediocre idiots. Shocker.

That's way more than an adjustment issue.

Well, indeed.
And one last response to the detailers from me, if you want to talk about ethnic cleansing, just look at the history of the Jews of the Middle East.
The Farhud is a good place to begin.

Well it's sometimes women too, but yeah, they're still always the "women can have dicks, a woman is a mincing man in lipstick, I'm so progressive" twats.

You know what I like about the feminism boards you really can’t bully women into complying on here. Once you become a terf you develop a thick skin, an immunity to appeals to emotion and straw manning. It’s bloody fantastic.

You can have whatever view on whatever conflict but you can’t demand that women comply and fall in lockstep with your views. You definitely can’t tell them off for not making statements in support of your particular cause. Calling people names and using hysterical language doesn’t really work here cos many of us are already horrible, genocidal bigots and have already had to deal with being screamed at by overgrown toddlers. So Meh.

Also all the rape apologists can just fuck right off.

Once you become a terf you develop a thick skin, an immunity to appeals to emotion and straw manning. It’s bloody fantastic.

I think a lot of us find that. You put your head above the parapet and get a kicking/called a fascist whatever and suddenly you realise you have precisely zero fucks left to give for this ideology and its proponents.

I don’t understand this, it’s not often women that are the problem. You can work with Afgani women as much as you like, the problem is not that they want to be subjected to the horrors they are subjected to. The problem is that Afghan men think it’s fine to marry a 9yr old or stick their wives and daughters in sacks with only one eye uncovered and use force (whipping, stoning, executing) to enforce their will.

When suttee was banned by the British I doubt women were thinking “those colonial fuckers, I was really looking forward to throwing myself on that funeral pyre and burning to death”.

It’s a nonsense isn’t it.

Yep,
My tolerance for fuckery is currently set at about 0.33 on a scale of 1 to 10.

Yeah you really stop giving a shit, you have a logical argument, evidence and critical thinking on your side. After that, if people want to cry, hurl insults and character assassinate you, they are free to do so, but a snotty nose and teary eyes are not a good proxy for sound argument.

I think all young women should spend some time on these boards. I went through the wringer here when I dared to post “they just want to pee, whats the big deal” years and years ago. It was good for me. Properly got my ass handed to me but forced me to really think.

Boy is a vile misogynist. I had the misfortune of reading his first autobiography because my flatmate was obsessed with him and insisted I read this book his 'hero' had written.

I was shocked how angry he was towards women, really didn't expect it and actively disliked him after that. I've never seen anything positive from him since then either.
Now he's just broke and looking for attention. In fact without their spats with JK that's really why any of them attack her.
They need the spotlight and the money...

Eh?

Gosh, really? Was it a wifenapping situation?

Wow, and the post itself has been vanished! Spooky!!

Thanks I will definitely definitely do that. 👍

Report it - spam

But the post was not just deleted- it evaporated! I've not seen that done before.

Yes, that was weird...

Because it was voodoo innit