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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans girl winning every race at primary sports day

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Minibea · 01/07/2025 21:47

My DD is 8 so in year 3 at primary school. There is a male child who self-identified as a girl from roughly age 6 and has socially transitioned at school. I’ve discussed this with DD along the lines of the importance of being inclusive, respecting someone right to be addressed in the way that they prefer etc but have also been clear with her that this child is biologically male and that you can’t change your sex. All fine.

Yesterday was school sports day. The child in question won every single race again the girls. DD is quite sporty and was up there with a chance of winning in all the races so is disappointed.

I don’t want to be “that” parent with school, nor rock the boat with the parents, but as the kids get older I’m concerned about the message this is sending and also the implications for bathroom arrangements, residential trips etc etc. So I want to ask school to provide/confirm their policy around all of this but what exactly do I need to see/hear? And what “should” the policy be so I can sense check it against what’s actually happening? An idiots guide would be most welcome!

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NormasArse · 05/07/2025 16:45

Poor form of the school not to just have mixed races, considering.

FrippEnos · 05/07/2025 17:07

Just a thought,
But even if you ignore all the reasons for not putting a male in female races, and insist on centring the whole thing on the TIM child, why would you build up their hopes for years only to dash them knowing that eventually they won't be allowed in female sports?

arethereanyleftatall · 05/07/2025 17:14

NormasArse · 05/07/2025 16:45

Poor form of the school not to just have mixed races, considering.

Is this a serious post. Do you understand anything at all about the rational for single sex. If not, then at least read this thread and the links supplied before making such ignorant comments.

Helleofabore · 05/07/2025 17:33

FrippEnos · 05/07/2025 17:07

Just a thought,
But even if you ignore all the reasons for not putting a male in female races, and insist on centring the whole thing on the TIM child, why would you build up their hopes for years only to dash them knowing that eventually they won't be allowed in female sports?

Yes. This is something I have wondered too.

thenoisiesttermagant · 05/07/2025 17:41

Helleofabore · 05/07/2025 17:33

Yes. This is something I have wondered too.

Because the 'trans' child is only a prop for adult egos and ideology. It's absolutely not about what's best for that child.

These poor kids don't really have any choice in the matter at all.

Giving them the false impression that they have the right to place their demands over all the other children's needs also won't end up with many party invites or friends. Whilst the girls might be cowed into silence, and the school might enforce everyone else lying, they will see how unfair it is. And how kindness only goes one way. In friendship, it has to go two ways. So you can't be friends with someone like this who gives you no respect and doesn't consider your point of view or needs.

The school can't force the other children to like the person depriving them of fairness and safety. They can't force them to invite him to their parties. It's not really in the best interests of the trans child - it's only in the interests of the adults promoting the ideology and trying to force it upon everyone else.

Helleofabore · 05/07/2025 17:47

thenoisiesttermagant · 05/07/2025 17:41

Because the 'trans' child is only a prop for adult egos and ideology. It's absolutely not about what's best for that child.

These poor kids don't really have any choice in the matter at all.

Giving them the false impression that they have the right to place their demands over all the other children's needs also won't end up with many party invites or friends. Whilst the girls might be cowed into silence, and the school might enforce everyone else lying, they will see how unfair it is. And how kindness only goes one way. In friendship, it has to go two ways. So you can't be friends with someone like this who gives you no respect and doesn't consider your point of view or needs.

The school can't force the other children to like the person depriving them of fairness and safety. They can't force them to invite him to their parties. It's not really in the best interests of the trans child - it's only in the interests of the adults promoting the ideology and trying to force it upon everyone else.

I agree. There are so many elements about this ideological thinking that are concerning.

derxa · 05/07/2025 18:02

As someone who was usually fastest girl it would have been devastating to lose to a boy. Slowly though this ideology is being pushed back. Thanks to people like Sharron Davies and Martina Navratilova.

arethereanyleftatall · 05/07/2025 18:43

It is an extremely valid point that the public are now increasingly vocal about calling out this misogynistic ideology. Each person that raises their voice encourages another to. If parents decide to continue transing their own child, then that poor child is set to be parented, thank goodness, by many others who will actually be acting in their interest

spannasaurus · 05/07/2025 18:58

NormasArse · 05/07/2025 16:45

Poor form of the school not to just have mixed races, considering.

You think the school should disadvantage girls in order to pander to one boy?

Delphinium20 · 06/07/2025 21:30

derxa · 05/07/2025 18:02

As someone who was usually fastest girl it would have been devastating to lose to a boy. Slowly though this ideology is being pushed back. Thanks to people like Sharron Davies and Martina Navratilova.

My DD2 was the fastest girl and puberty alone was frustrating because sports like skiing and running which came to her so easily had a different feel once she got her hips…we had to talk to her a lot just to make her comfortable with the changes and that it was okay if the neighbor boy could beat her now. It really hit her hard.

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