Stephen Fry - What a repulsive, condescending misogynistic turd

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14820209/Harry-Potter-narrator-Stephen-Fry-turns-JK-Rowling-TERFs.html

Yuk.

Oh God he’s so boring.

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I have never really liked Stephen Fry but this interview makes me see him in a whole new light. I agree with him and am glad he has spoken out.

Like Fry I feel stuck between two camps. I have friends who have trans DC’s and friends who are trans. I have complicated feelings about some of the issues such as unfair advantages in sports etc. and the way that some trans people seek to inhabit some cis female spaces (not bothered by toilets etc but am concerned about therapeutic spaces where women recovering from male violence might have to share space with someone who lived most of their life as male) But the way some people were “crowing” after the Supreme Court decision, as though they were football hooligans celebrating a team win…Well, I gained new clarity after that. I can’t stand some of the attitudes expressed towards trans women and men.

Good for Fry for poking his head above the parapet. I brace myself for the flak and insults that are coming my way.

He can have an opinion I don’t care about that. Not sure why he is that bothered as it doesn’t have any actual affect on his life.

It’s the disingenuous “caring” persona that he uses for it that makes my skin crawl.

He is a creep, we all know that.

He’s what you’d get if you ordered Robert Robertson from Temu.

😅👏😅

I hope JK tweets a withering response to his whines. These silly men have no chance of getting the upper hand with her.

So we have no actual evidence of JKR's supposed 'incitement to hatred'.

Just baseless slurs on her reputation.

How appallingly manipulative and misogynist I hope you're proud of yourself @Christmasmorale

but I get you’re fine with the TRA who hold up decapitate terf signs on Pride marches? And I bet you’re ready to give specific examples and quotes of what your issue is with JK Rowling? Again, I’ll wait.
(and I’m not a cis, I’m a woman thanks)

Wish I did but actually just exhausted arguing with white mumsnetters online - I've learnt from threads about race that it's exhausting and not a worthwhile way to spend my morning. I wanted to comment just to put an alternative view to the echo chamber that has become mumsnet feminist threads, not to have to trawl through tweets from someone I actively unfollowed due to the content of those tweets.

Trans-ideology can lead to less protection for biological women who need safe spaces need, but JKR is a bit of a bully. Both can be true at the same time.

I’ve never liked him, I’ve always thought he’s smarmy mysogynistic and privileged. He’s also insincere and a coward.

Scrabbling around, trying to be relevant.

Are you suggesting that the LimeFinch account is used by more than one person?

A tag-team of scolders?

She DEFENDS HERSELF against horrific attacks, rape threats, death threats, and that's the problem with you. You won't give examples because you can't. You made it up.

I know many people from great organisations who lobby and push policies to protect women from the impact of sharing spaces/sports with trans women, and every time JKR tweets and attacks individuals some of them are nervous as it has a direct impact on the work behind the scenes, and makes reasonable proposals seem hysterical (since many associate this part of the women's rights movement with JKR late night tweets).

Yeah, sure you do. And I'm the Pope. And there you go again with the misogynistic term 'hysterical'. The use of that word tells us everything about you, and what your agenda is.

Agree that’s he’s a massive fence sitter on the issue - but also a terrible actor. His performance as Oscar Wilde was dire, about the only serious role he’s ever been given and absolutely cringeworthy.

Stick to panel shows Stephen, and light light comedy

She handed Boy George his arse, so I look forward to it. These men must all have a humiliation fetish.

what has race got to do with this? Just seriously stop with the DARVO

@LimeFinch hane you had a chance to return to your thread?

Nope. I am not fine with incitement to murder anyone. Fry’s point is that he didn’t get involved in the argument as he feared the hatred incited by both sides.

Exactly. I went right off him ages ago. Used to like him in the 80s and 90s but he was probably a that then too.

I think you might just be onto something!

Yet here you are.

It’s just not on to accuse someone of something they haven’t done.

JKR is pro-women. That’s not the same thing as anti-trans. I’ve actually read the articles, listened to the podcast, and done so with a critical eye. There’s nothing there.

She’s anti-trans ideology. It’s not the same thing.

You don't have to believe me, doesn't make a difference to the work I do or the reality at hand. But while you're here commenting, we're here making an actual difference to the women and girls who need the protection - rather than arguing online. I don't have to defend myself and I will not ever sink to JKR's approach on any issue I care about.

'She DEFENDS HERSELF against horrific attacks, rape threats, death threats, and that's the problem with you. You won't give examples because you can't. You made it up.'

Yep. She won't sit down and shut up and let these men attempt to brainwash everyone with their delusions.

This is the pub that the odious Fry was speaking at. I think it's fair to say he was playing to his audience...

he didn’t get involved because he’s not as fearless as JK