Stephen Fry - What a repulsive, condescending misogynistic turd

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14820209/Harry-Potter-narrator-Stephen-Fry-turns-JK-Rowling-TERFs.html

Yuk.

My view about all things of sharp and difficult nature is that is is much more important to be effective than to be right.

what an odd thing to say. Abusive men in DV situations are effective at achieving their aim with their cruelty. Dr Upton was effective in making Sandie Peggie distressed about changing at work. Prof Phoenix’s colleagues were effective at bullying her out of her job, see also Dr Stock.

On the other hand JKR is extremely effective at supporting women because she actually does stuff not pontificate. And also right.

JKRowling gave SF short shrift last year when he started going round telling a tall story about how she added a line into all her books that he found difficult to say on the audiobooks.

I think she has no time for him and his nose is out of joint as a result. Makes me wonder 🤔

That’s really sad for JKR. It’s one thing to have ransoms on the other side of the world on the internet demonise you, another to be turned on by someone you had a positive working relationship / friendship with. And someone old enough to know better. Yes she’s insulated, but that’s still very hurtful.

Wow. I can practically see the waving pitchforks and smell the flaming brands from here.

Threads like this really are a ghoulishly fascinating, and anthropologically interesting, study of the ignorant, hateful, pack mentality that has come to typify so many areas of the internet.

I'd give my own views on the estimable, esteemed - and universally beloved by thinking human beings - Mr Fry, but suspect doing so will only further enrage the witch-burning cultists.

Actually, it might be fun to do so anyway; in much the same way you might wind a toy and watch it trundle across the floor in monomaniacal obsession...

Interesting that his story about that word is bollocks, so maybe there never was a good working relationship (it was that story that made me assume they’d worked well together).

He’s always been a knob. I remember him defending MPs taking the piss with their expenses when he was asked by a journalist and he was standing there in a black tie outfit ready to go to some swanky event. He said something along the lines of ‘everyone does it so what’s the big deal’. Totally out of touch and dripping with privilege.

Stephen won’t like you more just because you use bigly words too.

patronize
/ˈpatrənʌɪz/

verb
gerund or present participle: patronising
1.
treat in a way that is apparently kind or helpful but that betrays a feeling of superiority.

have I missed his comments on Matt Lucas and David walliams little Britain ongoing gag mocking trans women?

he’s vile. Absolutely vile. On the plus side it would enrage him how successful she is and how much money she has.

Oh no, not the Thinking Human Beings that Think Men can be Women? Whatever shall we do?

Urgh the man has an ego the size of a planet. He confuses being clever (in his own estimation) with having a clue about things he can’t understand or experience. And pretending feminists who are trying to preserve women’s rights and safeguarding for children are the ones who are being revolting and saying nasty things strongly suggests he’s just parroting dogma and hasn’t looked at the actual issues at all. Not a sign of intelligence and critical thinking ability.

As with Billy Bragg, I see a man who dislikes and resents women and feminism making the most of a handy bandwagon that allows him to slap them down with impunity and get praised as a righteous hero. And that’s what matters to him because of his huge ego - not actual reality.

Exactly. And also DARVO on steroids.

Also I would have thought being effective when you are wrong could do more harm than good.

Think it through Stephen!

Attention seeking.

I've always disliked him. Yeah, he was good in Blackadder and has a lovely speaking voice but I've never been able to stand him personally, he's the reason I didn't watch QI. I've just always found him so smug and self satisfied and really not as clever as he thinks he is. Just posh!

This honestly doesn't surprise me at all. As a PP noted above, he's said shitty things about women before (they don't like sex? How on earth would you know, Stephen??) and I think he just says what he thinks fits with his image, which I don't understand anyway because I can't stand him.

Parklife

mate after you be clowned yourself with your previous thread, I’d take the opinion of a small whelk on ramsgate beach over yours

the only peopke carrying flaming torches is the side carrying placards saying “decapitate TERFS”. In the 17th century you’d have incinerated women who didn’t agree with you without a second thought

He's such a pompous dick.

Sorely missing the laugh reaction.

People have a very short memory when it comes to him about comments he's made about women over the years.

I've never forgotten though about the kind of thing @javyd 's article covers, and the various twitter flounces when he was called out.

Such a shame as I loved Jeeves and Wooster, plus disliking him is a controvertial opinion I've felt had to keep quiet about, while others have fawned over him.

I’ve never understood why so many people seem to like Stephen Fry. There’s always been something abhorrent about him.

It's not misogynistic. JK Rowling's views go beyond just political stance/ personal beliefs - she attacks individuals and incites hatred against an already vulnerable group of people. If she was any other race there's no way she could get away with how she's carrying on and I doubt you mumsnetters would defend the extremities of her approach - she benefits from white privilege in that regard.

There are many organisations who defend the rights of women without being hateful and equating transgenderism with rape of women etc. Similar narratives were used by people against gay marriage. Her points (some of which are very valid) can be made without hysteria and hatred.

Are you the "shame, shame" guy? Did they get the WiFi working again back in the knockoff Red Keep?

I’m sure you can provide evidence of all this incitement of hatred

Quite right, and well said.