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ArabellaScott · 18/06/2025 07:07

I'm so ashamed and disheartened by our government. Honestly, its risible.

Igneococcus · 18/06/2025 07:18

There's a comment by Rhona Hotchkiss in the comments as well:

"And this week, a Scottish Trans organisation - funded by ScotGov from public money - refused to meet with the EHRC to discuss the implications of the ruling. They should be defunded immediately."

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 18/06/2025 08:02

I wish Sex Matters would send a copy of that letter to the Welsh Government, they seem to have decided to ignore everything and carry on in they own stupid bubble.
The response I got from my SM to the email I sent about the SC judgement wasn't worth the energy it took for a minion to press send.
Keep up the pressure Sex Matters, and maybe start targeting organisations that are promoting defiance of the law as well.

Igneococcus · 18/06/2025 08:11

How is the SNP planning to run and organize and I assume write laws for an independent Scotland if they can't work this out without guidance from the EHRC?

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 18/06/2025 08:29

Supreme Court: ‘Humans can’t change biological sex, even if they get a a certificate to change their legal sex. Where the provision of services or activities is limited by sex, then biological sex should be the only factor taken into consideration’

Scottish government: ‘oh it’s just so complicated! We don’t understaaaand! We’re going to have to wait until someone can explain this more clearly <sad face>’

as a pp notes, if the Scottish Government can’t understand the SC ruling, they stand fuck all chance of running an independent Scotland

Needlesnah · 18/06/2025 08:31

None of the Times share token links work for me - has anyone had that issue before? I keep trying to read posts and can’t, it’s so frustrating!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 18/06/2025 08:32

I’m delighted to see Sex Matters saying that they will look to take organisations that are negligent in this matter to court so individuals don’t have to. They are genuinely fulfilling their brief and will bring about positive change for women

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Needlesnah · 18/06/2025 08:36

Sadly not. I’m beginning to think it may be because I still have the app (used to pay for the subscription, sadly can’t do it anymore). I didn’t want to delete the app as I have saved articles - backup for sex and gender ‘conversations’ with my teen DD - and I didn’t want to lose them. I think I’ll just have to delete the app and see if that works. Thank you though.

Igneococcus · 18/06/2025 08:40

Needlesnah · 18/06/2025 08:36

Sadly not. I’m beginning to think it may be because I still have the app (used to pay for the subscription, sadly can’t do it anymore). I didn’t want to delete the app as I have saved articles - backup for sex and gender ‘conversations’ with my teen DD - and I didn’t want to lose them. I think I’ll just have to delete the app and see if that works. Thank you though.

I can C&P into a word file and send to you via PM, give me a minute

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Igneococcus · 18/06/2025 08:46

Igneococcus · 18/06/2025 08:40

I can C&P into a word file and send to you via PM, give me a minute

I can't attach a file to a PM, I thought that was possible, it seems not, sorry.

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nauticant · 18/06/2025 08:54

Could you not cut and paste the share token link directly into the address part of a web browser @Needlesnah?

Toseland · 18/06/2025 08:56

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RoyalCorgi · 18/06/2025 08:56

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 18/06/2025 08:29

Supreme Court: ‘Humans can’t change biological sex, even if they get a a certificate to change their legal sex. Where the provision of services or activities is limited by sex, then biological sex should be the only factor taken into consideration’

Scottish government: ‘oh it’s just so complicated! We don’t understaaaand! We’re going to have to wait until someone can explain this more clearly <sad face>’

as a pp notes, if the Scottish Government can’t understand the SC ruling, they stand fuck all chance of running an independent Scotland

Yes, it's hard to see why they think saying , in effect, "I'm too stupid to understand this very simple thing" is going to improve their public standing or persuade people to vote for them.

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 18/06/2025 08:56

Human rights law was never meant for this. Those who push this should hang their heads in shame.

Needlesnah · 18/06/2025 09:07

That’s ok @Igneococcus - I’ll use BernardBlacks abbreviation for the gist!

akkakk · 18/06/2025 10:22

Needlesnah · 18/06/2025 09:07

That’s ok @Igneococcus - I’ll use BernardBlacks abbreviation for the gist!

here you go:
http://archive.today/Zbgzu

sometimes the share tokens can act strangely - but you can always paste the URL into archive.is and it will build you an archive of the page...

INeedAPensieve · 18/06/2025 11:12

Igneococcus · 18/06/2025 07:18

There's a comment by Rhona Hotchkiss in the comments as well:

"And this week, a Scottish Trans organisation - funded by ScotGov from public money - refused to meet with the EHRC to discuss the implications of the ruling. They should be defunded immediately."

I do so love Rhona. She understands the nonsense of this.

Peaked a friend of mine whose wife is a prison officer. Talked about Rhona Hotchkiss, asked her to check with her wife to see if she's heard of her. She came back to me and said, yes, my wife has heard of her, a lot of the prison officers respect her greatly and agree. It's the management that's fkd things up for them in sps. And the SNP government "guidance" of course. They are honestly moving from incompetent idiots to evil bastards for me now. In education and in prisons and in places where vulnerable women and children are battered with this evil ideology.

Needlesnah · 18/06/2025 11:30

akkakk · 18/06/2025 10:22

here you go:
http://archive.today/Zbgzu

sometimes the share tokens can act strangely - but you can always paste the URL into archive.is and it will build you an archive of the page...

That worked perfectly, thank you! (Edited for spelling)

LimeFinch · 18/06/2025 11:35

Soontobe60 · 18/06/2025 07:14

"he’s a piece of work!"

She's a piece of work!

Corrected it for you. Although I fully agree that the charges are horrendous.

akkakk · 18/06/2025 11:40

LimeFinch · 18/06/2025 11:35

"he’s a piece of work!"

She's a piece of work!

Corrected it for you. Although I fully agree that the charges are horrendous.

I think you may have made a mistake...

Jamie Wallis was born male - therefore is still male - therefore 'He' is the correct pronoun... sex can't be changed.

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2025 12:01

Needlesnah · 18/06/2025 08:36

Sadly not. I’m beginning to think it may be because I still have the app (used to pay for the subscription, sadly can’t do it anymore). I didn’t want to delete the app as I have saved articles - backup for sex and gender ‘conversations’ with my teen DD - and I didn’t want to lose them. I think I’ll just have to delete the app and see if that works. Thank you though.

Try deleting cookies for the website, first.

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2025 12:02

LimeFinch · 18/06/2025 11:35

"he’s a piece of work!"

She's a piece of work!

Corrected it for you. Although I fully agree that the charges are horrendous.

Who, the man who just admitted to stalking and harassing his wife?