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MarieDeGournay · 18/06/2025 12:08

I see the eminent KC defending Wallis is now referring to her client as 'she':
Narita Bahra KC, for the defence, said that Wallis had decided that she did not want to put her family through anything further.

At the start of the process she referred to Wallis as 'he':
Around 15 minutes after the hearing's scheduled start time, Ms Bahra had said her client was late because "a member of the press started to follow him [sic] and he took haven in Tesco Express".

and seems to have continued to refer to Wallis a 'he' at times
"For the period of incarceration he was doing bizarre things," said Ms Bahra. "The officers are trying engage with him but for the whole period he is obsessed with crisps.
Former Tory MP admits harassing ex-wife | Wales Online

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/06/2025 12:17

Soontobe60 · 18/06/2025 07:14

FFS, the state of him.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/06/2025 12:18

LimeFinch · 18/06/2025 11:35

"he’s a piece of work!"

She's a piece of work!

Corrected it for you. Although I fully agree that the charges are horrendous.

Er, no thanks, you do you.

SternJoyousBee · 18/06/2025 12:55

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 18/06/2025 08:29

Supreme Court: ‘Humans can’t change biological sex, even if they get a a certificate to change their legal sex. Where the provision of services or activities is limited by sex, then biological sex should be the only factor taken into consideration’

Scottish government: ‘oh it’s just so complicated! We don’t understaaaand! We’re going to have to wait until someone can explain this more clearly <sad face>’

as a pp notes, if the Scottish Government can’t understand the SC ruling, they stand fuck all chance of running an independent Scotland

Oh they understand the ruling just fine (hence all the wailing and hand wringing) they just want to pretend they don’t understand.

Soontobe60 · 18/06/2025 13:42

LimeFinch · 18/06/2025 11:35

"he’s a piece of work!"

She's a piece of work!

Corrected it for you. Although I fully agree that the charges are horrendous.

I don’t need correcting thank you. He is male and therefore I shall use male pronouns.

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2025 14:57

Needlesnah · 18/06/2025 08:36

Sadly not. I’m beginning to think it may be because I still have the app (used to pay for the subscription, sadly can’t do it anymore). I didn’t want to delete the app as I have saved articles - backup for sex and gender ‘conversations’ with my teen DD - and I didn’t want to lose them. I think I’ll just have to delete the app and see if that works. Thank you though.

ChatGPT and Gemini can explain how to create an archive link free to view. It's OK to use AI to bypass copyright so worth noting for future use.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 18/06/2025 15:46

LimeFinch · 18/06/2025 11:35

"he’s a piece of work!"

She's a piece of work!

Corrected it for you. Although I fully agree that the charges are horrendous.

Have a day off. He, being a male. Correctly sexed.

Needlesnah · 18/06/2025 15:52

Hoardasurass · 18/06/2025 15:40

Wow. We just ignore the law now do we?! Glad to see some schools are still going ahead with installing single sex toilets, despite her comments.

TheOtherRaven · 18/06/2025 17:04

Good, bravo those women.

Can we do Westminster too?

Do women have right in fact or just on paper and in theory, because men are scared of other men pouting and stamping?

Women are suffering because of a fear of saying no to men. Who want to abuse women.

And that MP is a man. I'm not playing games any more, I am absolutely over this in every conceivable way. He is not some VIP of the human race.

BettyFilous · 18/06/2025 17:46

Needlesnah · 18/06/2025 08:31

None of the Times share token links work for me - has anyone had that issue before? I keep trying to read posts and can’t, it’s so frustrating!

They changed the entitlements in their basic subscription package a few months ago without telling subscribers. It still generates a sharetoken for the subscriber. However, the sharetoken is dead link. This may explain some dead links.

DuesToTheDirt · 18/06/2025 18:43

I thought it had been widely agreed that "Isla Bryson" was "at it". He's still "at it" then, or it's been decided he's TruTrans(TM) after all?

TheOtherRaven · 18/06/2025 18:59

Possibly after the SC judgment they've realised it makes absolutely no difference either way.

INeedAPensieve · 18/06/2025 19:04

DuesToTheDirt · 18/06/2025 18:43

I thought it had been widely agreed that "Isla Bryson" was "at it". He's still "at it" then, or it's been decided he's TruTrans(TM) after all?

The daily record really need to stop giving big Isla any air time. FFS. The state of him.

Also that MP is.a.man.

I'm also sick of it all. No more lies.

SerafinasGoose · 18/06/2025 19:09

This should not be necessary. It boils my blood that it's necessary. But it is.

These women are nothing short of magnificent.

LimeFinch · 18/06/2025 20:43

Soontobe60 · 18/06/2025 13:42

I don’t need correcting thank you. He is male and therefore I shall use male pronouns.

I suspect you might need a new t-shirt 😉

Obey Supreme Court on sex or we’ll sue again, feminists warn SNP
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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 18/06/2025 21:04

LimeFinch · 18/06/2025 20:43

I suspect you might need a new t-shirt 😉

I'm wondering what @LimeFinch thinks this screen shot proves? that people are tedious on twitter maybe?

Helleofabore · 18/06/2025 21:49

I think that @LimeFinch had already shown us exactly who is under a Dunning-Kruger effect on their thread today.

Perhaps they might read the links they post to check whether the links show what they believe they do…

TomPinch · 18/06/2025 22:29

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 18/06/2025 08:56

Human rights law was never meant for this. Those who push this should hang their heads in shame.

I think this needs to be said again and again. It's really the main point.

Human rights originated from the aftermath of WW2, to protect against genocide, famine, destitution, the right to an independent life and so forth.

It was never meant to affirm a person's right to be a man on Wednesday and a woman on Thursday or whatever is in the influencer zeitgeist. Such things are just not very important and shouldn't take up society's time or attention.

LimeFinch · 19/06/2025 11:15

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SerendipityJane · 19/06/2025 11:26

Human rights originated from the aftermath of WW2, to protect against genocide, famine, destitution, the right to an independent life and so forth.

Well that's one view.

The broader and much longer running (millennia in fact) is that if a society is not going to descend into a tyranny (a word with very classical resonance) then there needs to be some sort of overarching framework that stops even the Monarch or the Senate from just making shit up.

Call it a constitution, call it a holy text - whatever you like. The fundamental principle is to limit the power of the state against the individual.

And it's from that concept that the notion of universal rights derives.

This is why anyone who pretends to think you can somehow divvy up rights as some sort of "who's in and who's out" board game is revealing themselves to be either too stupid to be allowed to vote, or too mendacious to be allowed to vote.

Divide and conquer is ever true.

When we had the fig leaf of being a religious country, then the concept of limiting the power of the state was outsourced to the Church. Because vast swathe of the population were well versed enough in the concept to work within it.

When you discard the big-cheese deity overview of life, then you really need to remember that those limits on the state no longer have any claim to being superior.

And overtime, left unchecked, the whole edifice will be slowly but inexorably removed.

Igneococcus · 19/06/2025 11:27

Also noticed the private reactions to the OP; 15 hearts and 9 applause reactions. Will pass that clear support on.

15 hearts and 9 applause, not more? Don't take it too heart too much, maybe you'll get a few more when you actually say something of substance.

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TomPinch · 19/06/2025 12:42

In the UK that's been achieved since 1690 (however imperfectly) by the supremacy of Parliament and the rule of law. Human rights is more recent, and while that's certainly secured rights that individuals in society need to have, I worry that it's being stretched so far beyond its bounds. On the one hand we have those who say that a person's desire to identify as Suzie one moment and Eddie the next is a matter for human rights. On the other hand we have Conservatives who see it as discredited and want to junk it entirely. I would prefer that human rights continue to be part of society without being called in aid of trivialities.

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Shortshriftandlethal · 19/06/2025 13:13

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This forum is not twitter. You need to improve your communication style if you expect people to engage with this tedious provocation.