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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The purity spiral tightens on the transgenderUK reddit

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MyAmpleSheep · 03/06/2025 22:22

It seems someone (trans) working inside the Labour Party, in a group called "Pride in Labour" posted something in the transgenderUK reddit and got piled on by other posters to such a level that a moderator had to delete a whole load of posts. Now that moderator - the one who won't brook any dissent to the echobox - is being attacked in his/her/their own reddit. Shades of Robespierre being dragged to the guillotine.

Here's that moderator's own post, quoting some of the stuff that he/she/they had to remove:

Hi, yes - I did lock and/or remove some of these threads, primarily because it had resulted in a full day of bizarre harassment across multiple threads and subreddits and multiple social media sites targeting the OP from people here, in which the way people described their actions went from a single questionably judged statement to something bizarrely disproportionate.

For context, Pride in Labour is a small group of volunteers in the Labour Party whose stated purpose as a group is to fight against the anti-trans consensus/to push for the existence of a meaningfully inclusive LGBT+ group within the party that isn't run by fucking monsters (the actual utility/viability of a group like it is very much arguable under these circumstances, but it's what they're trying to do, in theory). People were, instead, treating the OP as though he were some kind of personal embodiment of the entire party, and therefore an acceptable target to take out their frustrations on.

The OP in question pulled his initial thread following the backlash, and expressed significant distress to me (and a desire to disengage from the subreddit) - and the harassment/abuse simply just kept coming. This seems to be another iteration of that.

I had to pull so many comments from those threads under Rule 5, primarily because people couldn't behave. We'd act the same way regarding awful treatment of essentially anybody using this place - and frequently do, usually at their request.

A few examples from amidst the flood, taken from here - there's been a great deal more elsewhere:

Pride in Labour is a joke and failure. [username] is just too blind and egotistical to see that the people he’s supposed to be “supporting” hate him for being a traitorous liar unable to do anything meaningful

Maybe [name] means well, but he's a harmful idiot with an ego the size of a freight train.

Seems I was wrong. They are full on fucking Quislings. [name] has far too large an ego to be leading an organisation that has achieved absolutely fuck all and has done not but continue to harm LGBT relations by continually siding with the people removing their rights.

[name] "means well", if his definition of "well" is the eradication of trans women from society.

How actually fugging dare they. How dare they betray our community, turn against trans and Intersex people and spend YEARS joining up with the opposition mocking and deriving us then to have the gal to think its appropriate to start discussing such a sensitive topic.

stop palling with the people banning us from rape crisis centres then, you fucking traitor

Go fuck yourself labour shill

The character of the stuff I had to pull was, pretty universally, just incredibly disproportionate personal abuse/harassment. It's just a multiple day long dogpile by people who really should know better - given that, of course I've tried to cut it off.

The worst of it took place off-site - the way some of you have been acting elsewhere is genuinely disgusting. At present, people (some of whom I recognise as regulars on this subreddit) are taking screenshots of his face and reposting them at him as way of mocking his appearance, calling him a nazi, a "capo" [sic], describing him as "sounding like a rapist", a "pathetic little creep", and repeatedly posting fecal-themed variations on his name. This isn't in any meaningful sense about "civility politics" or however the fuck you want to frame it - it's just straight-up, unambiguous bullying.

OP posts:
Dominoodles · 03/06/2025 22:30

I'm confused. Are people blaming Labour for a decision made solely by the supreme Court?

SionnachRuadh · 03/06/2025 22:31

You set up a subreddit encouraging young people with very poor mental health to go full Red Guard on any random target that swims into their field of vision...

...then you're surprised when they go full Red Guard on you.

KnottyAuty · 03/06/2025 22:32

Interesting - so a reddit poster has tried to be an ally, got something "wrong" and been harried all day? Talk about biting the hand that feeds.. good to see it pointed away from GC folks tho

ETA I wonder how long this internal Labour group will continue to be motivated to help?

MyAmpleSheep · 03/06/2025 22:38

KnottyAuty · 03/06/2025 22:32

Interesting - so a reddit poster has tried to be an ally, got something "wrong" and been harried all day? Talk about biting the hand that feeds.. good to see it pointed away from GC folks tho

ETA I wonder how long this internal Labour group will continue to be motivated to help?

Edited

Not just that - the redit moderator him/her/theirself is getting a lot of heavy criticism from his own community for not being pro-trans enough. I wonder if he will have to ban himself and hand the reddit over to a true ally.

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FoxAches · 03/06/2025 22:39

Revolution devouring its children. Amusing.

MyAmpleSheep · 03/06/2025 22:41

MyAmpleSheep · 03/06/2025 22:38

Not just that - the redit moderator him/her/theirself is getting a lot of heavy criticism from his own community for not being pro-trans enough. I wonder if he will have to ban himself and hand the reddit over to a true ally.

Sorry. Accidental misgendering. This is much harder than it looks. I should have said: I wonder if he/she/they will have to ban him/her/theirself and hand over the reddit.

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ArabellaScott · 03/06/2025 22:45

Said chap is currently working hard to try and get a woman 'cancelled', so I don't feel all that sorry for him.

https://x.com/JamieStrud/status/1929454489318076439

https://x.com/JamieStrud/status/1929454489318076439

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSportsIsBack · 03/06/2025 22:52

Well that's the way it goes when you don't support the Communist Party of the USSR, even if you support the Communist Party of the USSR; you must be a traitor if they say you're a traitor because the Communist Party of the USSR is always correct.
I always wondered how Stalin got away with the purges.

SionnachRuadh · 03/06/2025 23:00

Jamie's X feed is... an interesting read, for someone who's complaining about getting dogpiled. It seems that he spends most of his time trying, probably without success, to get other people dogpiled.

And anyone who knows the Trans UK subreddit knows that the only way to avoid being called Hitler is to call someone else Hitler first.

AlpineMuesli · 03/06/2025 23:08

ArabellaScott · 03/06/2025 22:45

Said chap is currently working hard to try and get a woman 'cancelled', so I don't feel all that sorry for him.

https://x.com/JamieStrud/status/1929454489318076439

This is hilarious. Trying to cancel Azealia Banks on twitter (and many try daily) is like trying to crochet ramen soup. She’s impervious to structure.

BiologicalRobot · 03/06/2025 23:26

repeatedly posting fecal-themed variations on his name.

Shock Anyway... thoughts and prayers to them both.
shallishanti · 03/06/2025 23:37

sorry, but what is meant by 'a capo' ?

MarieDeGournay · 03/06/2025 23:39

shallishanti · 03/06/2025 23:37

sorry, but what is meant by 'a capo' ?

I was just going to ask the same, all I can think of is di tutti capi !

MyAmpleSheep · 03/06/2025 23:42

shallishanti · 03/06/2025 23:37

sorry, but what is meant by 'a capo' ?

Kapo: Jewish "policeman" appointed by and given authority by Nazi concentration camp guards to coerce obedience from fellow inmates, in return for less brutality or better food.

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CraftandGlamour · 04/06/2025 00:14

Tasteless appropriation continues apace, I see.

moto748e · 04/06/2025 00:25

Of course! As classy as you'd expect.

Joolsin · 04/06/2025 00:32

Capo is also Italian for "boss", but I guess in this case they're using it in the WWII sense and misspelling it. Sigh. Why can't TRAs get their spelling and grammar into line! 😁

CrocsNotDocs · 04/06/2025 00:38

None of these blue-haired loonies have ever read Animal Farm or if they did, they mistook it for a story about furries.

I do love a good circular firing squad.

moto748e · 04/06/2025 01:02

Well, seriously, I wonder: do young people read books these days?

SionnachRuadh · 04/06/2025 01:05

They've read one book, but they have to pretend they hate the author.

moto748e · 04/06/2025 01:18

Heh!

IwantToRetire · 04/06/2025 01:48

MyAmpleSheep · 03/06/2025 23:42

Kapo: Jewish "policeman" appointed by and given authority by Nazi concentration camp guards to coerce obedience from fellow inmates, in return for less brutality or better food.

How strange. Not sure of who said what to whom, or if people make clear their race or ethnicity when posting.

But using that word is seen by some is inappropriate and a cooption of the particular experience of the Holocaust .

But on the other hand, if the thread is made up of party activists, with the way Labour has weaponised Zionism and anti semitism to accuse each other of failed correctness, maybe it isn't a surprise that is being used in a casually way without regard for its real history.

Plasticwaste · 04/06/2025 02:44

Reddit is a strange place full of maladjusted weirdos so none of this is particularly surprising.

The other day, I found a subreddit dedicated to hating JKR - EnoughJKR or something. It was like entering a parallel universe... full of maladjusted weirdos!

WarriorN · 04/06/2025 06:21

Reddit is utterly bonkers

great social observation though.

WarriorN · 04/06/2025 06:23

The kefir subreddit is nice but far too complicated.

you just want someone to say “stick it in a cup with a cloth over it, top up and strain daily”

which is more mn style 😁

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