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World boxing to introduce mandatory sex testing.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 30/05/2025 18:15

worldboxing.org/news/

Guess we'll finally find out whether Imane Khelif is female or not. I suspect he will avoid the testing "out of principle" 🤭

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KeepTalkingBeth · 01/06/2025 14:05

How will the true believers spin a no show?

Jealous, racist terfs drive Olympic champion out of competition
Transphobic BBC
Anti-trans European press funded by American evangelists
boxing organisations are all corrupt anyway
Sex is too complex for you wimmin to understand, educate yourselves
JKR something something
...

ArabellaScott · 01/06/2025 14:06

I reckon he'll definitely be blaming women for being exclusionary.

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2025 14:07

I expect most of them will go quiet.

Steve Bunce is attempting a reverse ferret already. But he's getting his arse handed to him.

x.com/bigdaddybunce/status/1928511337790918957?s=46&t=OKyRO4eweTteo5FEt_J1MQ

MarieDeGournay · 01/06/2025 14:12

ArabellaScott · 01/06/2025 14:06

I reckon he'll definitely be blaming women for being exclusionary.

Algeria will blame Morocco, which is their JKR [excuse the oversimplification of complex geopolitics]
The Algerian media claimed that the controversy at the Paris Olympics was stirred up by Morocco to stop Algeria getting a gold medal.

fromorbit · 01/06/2025 14:19

Good post

Jon Pike

My best guess as to how this will unfold:

It's true that I can only be 99% certain, not 100% certain how an SRY screening test on Khelif will come out.

But my knowledge is, in this respect, less important than Khelif's knowledge, and Khelif knows, with certainty, how it will come out.

The choice for Khelif is to take the SRY test or not, in view of this knowledge

A 'failed' SRY test throws into question the Olympic Gold, and this is the big thing that Khelif wants to hang on to.

Not taking the test leaves the Gold under a cloud, of course, but not as much as a failed test.

So the rational course for Khelif is to refuse to take the test.

So, I expect an announcement of withdrawal in the next few days - from Eindhoven for 'personal reasons', citing the 'media storm' or similar, This will be before the 7th. But there might be nothing - just a no-show.

Then, a few weeks later, I expect a retirement announcement. I expect that announcement to cite a 'campaign of harassment', 'intrusions into her privacy', that Khelif has 'nothing left to prove'.

And at a later date, I expect an interesting, dishonest, and disingenuous ghost-written auto-biography, which will be necessary reading for research purposes. "The Algerian Lioness: My Struggle" or similar.

You can also trace the counterfactual: what would happen if we were wrong. An SRY test that shows absence, a karyotype test showing XX, successful law suits against people like me, fulsome and honest apologies all round. I'll brace myself for this in due course.

If this is right, the integrity and status of any Algerian test protocol is beside the point. It ain't gonna happen.

I could be wrong, but watch closely.

Article in The National - [Scottish Nationalist paper]

Finally, men have been banned from punching women in the face
https://archive.is/qs9in#

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2025 14:26

It's interesting that there's been no response as yet from the Khelif camp.

Theyre normally fast out of the blocks with the fighting talk.

BiologicalRobot · 01/06/2025 14:56

It's interesting that there's been no response as yet from the Khelif camp.

He's waiting to trip over his untied laces going down the stairs in his house on the morning of the fight. He will be so focused on fight strategies that he didn't notice one had come undone. He will be very sad he can't compete but his leg hurts.

Maybe.

BundleBoogie · 01/06/2025 15:12

BiologicalRobot · 01/06/2025 14:56

It's interesting that there's been no response as yet from the Khelif camp.

He's waiting to trip over his untied laces going down the stairs in his house on the morning of the fight. He will be so focused on fight strategies that he didn't notice one had come undone. He will be very sad he can't compete but his leg hurts.

Maybe.

Maybe sudden onset ingrowing toenail - can be mightily painful.

TWETMIRF · 01/06/2025 15:42

Caught himself in his flies?

RedToothBrush · 01/06/2025 15:48

ThatCyanCat · 31/05/2025 22:40

Oh no. Seems Algeria will do any test for Khelif? Not an independent, accredited lab? That's a terrible vested interest and ripe for corruption.

So Algeria do the test. It comes back saying 'he a woman!' World Boxing either accept that (and get even more protests) or have a diplomatic incident on their hands. So they say 'well maybe we'll get it checked by a third party'. Algeria throw a hissy fit say they are being singled out and it's racism and withdraw from said upcoming tournament in protest. Thus giving IK more time to sustain a career ending injury with a face save and less embarrassment.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/06/2025 15:54

RedToothBrush · 01/06/2025 15:48

So Algeria do the test. It comes back saying 'he a woman!' World Boxing either accept that (and get even more protests) or have a diplomatic incident on their hands. So they say 'well maybe we'll get it checked by a third party'. Algeria throw a hissy fit say they are being singled out and it's racism and withdraw from said upcoming tournament in protest. Thus giving IK more time to sustain a career ending injury with a face save and less embarrassment.

World boxing have already said they will carry out their own tests if they have any doubts about those supplied by individual federations.

There’s no way out for Algeria because the rules apply equally to all national federations so they can’t complain about unfair treatment

RedToothBrush · 01/06/2025 16:06

Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/06/2025 15:54

World boxing have already said they will carry out their own tests if they have any doubts about those supplied by individual federations.

There’s no way out for Algeria because the rules apply equally to all national federations so they can’t complain about unfair treatment

Given we know how they never accept anything quietly, I'm not holding my breathe.

The whole subject seems to be more 'how can I get my way out of this and save face / create a conspiracy theory to make me look better than I really am?'.

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2025 16:22

RedToothBrush · 01/06/2025 16:06

Given we know how they never accept anything quietly, I'm not holding my breathe.

The whole subject seems to be more 'how can I get my way out of this and save face / create a conspiracy theory to make me look better than I really am?'.

The bravado and big talk was only possible when they had international backing.

Now that it's gone, they're between a rock and a hard place. They know they can't win, so I suspect they'll conclude it's better to minimise their losses.

Helleofabore · 01/06/2025 16:31

I actually think that faced with Algeria’s embarrassment versus women protesting publicly and very visibly and the fact that a journalist has supposedly released one test result, but that we also have a statement from past coaches which combined would put world boxing in a very poor position politically and subject to accepting potential fraud or corruption, I think World boxing would retest. Too much is already known about this case.

ThatCyanCat · 01/06/2025 16:47

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2025 14:07

I expect most of them will go quiet.

Steve Bunce is attempting a reverse ferret already. But he's getting his arse handed to him.

x.com/bigdaddybunce/status/1928511337790918957?s=46&t=OKyRO4eweTteo5FEt_J1MQ

We've been talking about eating humble pie and hats. Dunce is being served his own arse.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 01/06/2025 16:56

Helleofabore · 01/06/2025 16:31

I actually think that faced with Algeria’s embarrassment versus women protesting publicly and very visibly and the fact that a journalist has supposedly released one test result, but that we also have a statement from past coaches which combined would put world boxing in a very poor position politically and subject to accepting potential fraud or corruption, I think World boxing would retest. Too much is already known about this case.

Yup. The least bad outcome for Algeria and IK is for it all to remain shrouded in mystery (for people who choose not to be able to tell what sex he is). By hook or by crook he won’t take the test. The only thing up for grabs is the reason given

AllWhitNoWhoo · 01/06/2025 17:01

I think a lot of us are checking in for an update and test results.
Obviously I won't need it, but 'Injury My Arse' was available for a username.

ThatCyanCat · 01/06/2025 18:29

AllWhitNoWhoo · 01/06/2025 17:01

I think a lot of us are checking in for an update and test results.
Obviously I won't need it, but 'Injury My Arse' was available for a username.

There's a @SaggyTitsandFlabbyArse somewhere, named in honour of some dickhead halfwit who told us we didn't need single sex changing rooms because no man would do us the compliment of abusing us since we all have...

AllWhitNoWhoo · 01/06/2025 18:56

ThatCyanCat · 01/06/2025 18:29

There's a @SaggyTitsandFlabbyArse somewhere, named in honour of some dickhead halfwit who told us we didn't need single sex changing rooms because no man would do us the compliment of abusing us since we all have...

😂 😂 how sweet. Did they tell them to #bekind?

I've saved the username in preparation for the announcement.

TheOtherRaven · 01/06/2025 19:07

ThatCyanCat · 01/06/2025 16:47

We've been talking about eating humble pie and hats. Dunce is being served his own arse.

Edited

Isn't he just?

Angry Man still shouting and ranting at women that his version of reality is the only one that exists and anyone contradicting him with things like facts and evidence deserves all his Angry Man Behaviours.

Can't we stuff this lot in some giant circle time programme somewhere? Jolyon could really use it too. Billy Bragg. Many of them.

nauticant · 01/06/2025 19:11

This is a more informative article than most:

https://www.3wiresports.com/articles/2025/6/1/xxyetyl1aewfij823hnfdrsbi1sqjm

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 01/06/2025 19:18

I'm not sure if this is appropriate but in the original Olympics...

...Athletes competed naked as a tribute to the Greek God Zeus. They wanted to show Zeus their physical power and muscular physique. Showing off their bodies also helped intimidate other competitors.

... and such an approach might negate the need for sex testing? Mind you, I wouldn't fancy the fencing... and they might have to drop the Handball event completely! 😳

nowindofblame · 01/06/2025 19:22

eatfigs · 01/06/2025 13:18

New article from Alan Abrahamson, the sports journalist who first reported the details of the sex testing commissioned by the IBA.

https://www.3wiresports.com/articles/2025/6/1/xxyetyl1aewfij823hnfdrsbi1sqjm

He's included a screenshot of the lab report this time, confirms Khelif has a male karyotype.

Careful readers of the World Boxing release will note it does not use the pronoun “she” when referring to Khelif. Six times the statement mentions Khelif. In every instance it is “Imane Khelif,” both names.

I love that they mentioned this. It reminded me of the years when we had to be careful here, but refused to comply with the compelled pronouns. They are refusing too, excellent news.

nauticant · 01/06/2025 19:30

nauticant · 01/06/2025 19:11

Ahh, @eatfigswas well ahead of me in posting this.

ThatCyanCat · 01/06/2025 19:33

AllWhitNoWhoo · 01/06/2025 18:56

😂 😂 how sweet. Did they tell them to #bekind?

I've saved the username in preparation for the announcement.

He (it was so obviously a he) said something like "you don't need a single sex changing room, nobody wants to look at your saggy tits and flabby arse", I lamented that I couldn't change to that name mid thread and lo and behold, SaggyTitsAndFlabbyArse appeared. It was very funny.