World boxing to introduce mandatory sex testing.

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worldboxing.org/news/

Guess we'll finally find out whether Imane Khelif is female or not. I suspect he will avoid the testing "out of principle" 🤭

If a man wants to pretend he is a woman, that's up to him. If he wants you to pretend he's a woman, that's up to you.

This version of womanhood exists not just in the mind of the man who thinks he's a woman - that's up to him - but it demands also to exist in the minds of everyone else. There's nothing liberal or progressive or kind about ordering women what to think, with dire consequences if they reveal their thoughtcrime through such acts as refusing to undress to affirm the man, or face him in a boxing ring. It demands to redefine everyone else. Ultimately that still won't ever really make the man happy anyway because he knows he isn't a woman and it'll always become apparent one way or another even if he succeeds in silencing any expression of wrongthink.

Women don't get euphoric if people think they're women. That's a purely male experience.

Gender identity is subjective and undefined and no basis on which to base anything in material reality.

Oh my word. I really wonder why such crazy people get airtime, though hopefully it will peak some people.

Interviewer: "The medical records prove conclusively that Khelif is in fact a biological man."
"Joanne": "First of all... this person is a woman...We should be referring to her as a woman."
"victor beating a loser"
"we need to go back to the sporting bodies and create fair and inclusive rules"
"I don't know the facts"
"leaked test that was discredited"
Interview: lots of head-shaking, he can't believe what he's hearing.

What will it take for such nutjobs to back down and admit they're wrong? I picture some scenarios.

• IK doesn't get tested. "Well that's because she's a woman and doesn't need to prove herself. It's unfair and demeaning."
• IK does get tested, the results are kept private and IK then doesn't compete. (see above)
• IK does get tested, and is publically shown to be a man. "It doesn't matter what the test says, IK is a woman. We are disrespecting her by calling her a man"
• IK himself admits he's a man. "IK has been brainwashed or threatened. She is a woman and should be treated as a woman."
• IK admits he's always known he's a man. "Men have no physical advantage over women so IK should be allowed to compete in the women's category."

Where does the batshittery end? Will the lunatics ever back down?

Will the lunatics ever back down?

No. They're lunatics. They're all mad. They're fucking mad.

And they don't matter. They can shout and scream and pretend not to know which of their parents is their mother or where babies come from. What matters is that the grownups in charge and the world at large isn't intimidated into compliance by their lunacy.

Do you remember the poster on here who was shocked children were taught about dinosaurs in schools?

Gender identity is subjective and undefined and no basis on which to base anything in material reality

This is at the core of the ideology's deceit. 'Performances' and queering words may perhaps transform some types of 'reality' but what they cannot do is change material reality. It is soft science over-reaching into hard science

It is soft science over-reaching into hard science

This is a great way of putting it and helps us understand why the 'expert' classes (headed by the universities) are unable to come out strongly against the woo woo.

For so long, they've been telling us that sociological discourse, like the kind Judith Butler has been expousing on gender, has equivalent validity to the hard sciences. Are they now going to have to admit that was nonsense?

Don't get me wrong, I'm an arts grad, I'm not advocating for shutting down all the softer disciplines, they have their value.

But we have to acknowledge that when it comes to people's sex, a gender studies PhD does a POV worth considering compared to a biology PhD.

In this case it is a STEM PhD. But totally Stonewalled.

Yep, it's crazy isn't it? On some level, this person absolutely knows that 'gender' is unverifiable nonsense, but has been programmed not to acknowledge that.

He is not actually using any hard science in his answers though. He has put the hard science to one side and is making a lot of unevidenced and incorrect non-scientific assertions. If he did that in the day job he would fail as a scientist.

https://www.lalpathlabs.com/about-us

That's the lab that did the tests, btw.

CAP accredited, NABL accredited, ISO 9001:2000 certificated.

@TheKeatingFive For so long, they've been telling us that sociological discourse, like the kind Judith Butler has been expousing on gender, has equivalent validity to the hard sciences

I have a theory that the everlasting jostling for position between hard and soft sciences is partially responsible for this madness. I have seen it first-hand. To massively generalise and over-simplify:
Some soft scientists felt inferior because hard science is often more conceptually difficult and uses mathematical languages beyond the reach of many people. Some hard scientists felt inferior because they were dismissed as geeks and nerds with no friends or social skills.
The soft scientists produced their own difficult to understand language to make their theories on gender sound valid. The hard scientists performatively embraced the theories to show they were #beKind people with social skills.

This is a famous comic strip in the sciences world:
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/purity.png

https://trt.global/afrika-english/article/8dbd10d6cea2

'On Monday, its president, Boris van der Vorst, reached out to the Algerian Boxing Federation to acknowledge naming Imane Khelif was wrong.
“I am writing to you all personally to offer a formal and sincere apology for this and acknowledge that her privacy should have been protected,” he wrote in a letter seen by The Associated Press.
Van der Vorst added he hoped by “reaching out to you personally we show our true respect to you and your athletes.”'

@ArabellaScott If these redditors are sincere then I really fear for the future, these people are obviously not that bright and have been so terminally online they don't seem to know the difference between reality and fantasy. I would not be surprised if a lot of the current gender woo has so much traction with people because they do live online much of the time and do somehow believe they can alter who they are as easily as they can change an avatar, username and so on.

To be fair, they shouldn't have done, they should have said 'all competitors entering the female event will need to undergo mandatory testing'.

Very convenient to apologise after the event. Woops, look what we did. Never mind, soz 😁

It's often easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

Quite.

Yes very true

Sure. On balance, though, anyone punching women in the face loses the rights to polite, fair responses, imho.

I reckon they panicked this near to Eindhoven, particularly when they realised the wims were coming for boxing again

I think it was an intentional shot across the bows.

Indicating that the governing bodies aren't prepared to cover for him any more.

Yes. I also think that there is a LOT of anger at this man and his managers/agents etc. They've not only enacted VAWG on the world stage, they've brought boxing, Algeria, and the Olympics into disrepute and trashed the reputation of all of those who've enabled him.

Deleted because I committed the sin of not reading the link properly.

This thread has been really interesting, not least because all of the TRAs that used to crop on these threads are so silent.

Has there been any response from Khalif or Algeria generally on the disclosure of this test that proves he's a man? Or the IOC?