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My employer has just removed single sexed toilets to be more inclusive!

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Dhama · 27/05/2025 14:32

In light of the SC ruling. Wtaf

Previously we had men, women and a unisex accessible toilet. They have now, in the guise of being inclusive, removed all signage and all are mixed sex.

The toilets are all individual, lockable with washing facilities included but that’s not the point. I hate using a toilet after men have been in there fgs.

We are a LA so unsure what the provisions are in other offices across the county.

I have emailed the head of facilities but not sure if I can do anything else.

am so cross

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Nameychangington · 18/08/2026 22:55

TIRF · 18/08/2026 21:59

What utter BS. Grow up with making up false claims about trans people.

It's a well known fetish. I'm too lazy to find the one I was looking for, where a TW posted about taking tampons from the women's toilets at a petrol station so have this one to be going on with:

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My employer has just removed single sexed toilets to be more inclusive!
Booboomylove · 18/08/2026 23:03

Definitely get in touch with your union if you have one, join one quickly if not!

Keeptoiletssafe · 18/08/2026 23:42

Marcipex · 18/08/2026 22:48

The local secondary school has only mixed sex toilets now. Girls simply don’t drink and don’t use them.

It shouldn't do after the holidays (dependent on country).

PollyNomial · 19/08/2026 00:04

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/08/2026 22:24

So that's two misogynistic posts implying women somehow "brought it on themselves" by clarifying their rights.

Abuser's language.

Not at all. This was predicted to happen but you didn't like who was (correctly) making these predictions.

Because of that, you dismissed them and are now enjoying buyers remorse. Bon appetit!

Marcipex · 19/08/2026 00:21

Keeptoiletssafe · 18/08/2026 23:42

It shouldn't do after the holidays (dependent on country).

England. I hope you’re right but they demolished the walls so that the toilet areas are open to the corridors. It would take a lot of work.

Keeptoiletssafe · 19/08/2026 00:54

Marcipex · 19/08/2026 00:21

England. I hope you’re right but they demolished the walls so that the toilet areas are open to the corridors. It would take a lot of work.

England - so you should see changes.

Keeping Children Safe in Education (2026):
Schools must provide separate toilets for boys and girls aged 8 and over
(apart from where individual toilets are in a room that can be locked from the inside,
intended for use by one pupil at a time). This is required by the School Premises
(England) Regulations 2012 and the Education (Independent School Standards)
Regulations 2014 which apply to both maintained schools, academies and
independent schools and reflects schools’ safeguarding obligations.

The toilet room is not the same as a cubicle.

Where a school or college provides mixed-sex toilets in addition to single-
sex toilets, schools and colleges should assess safeguarding risks and plan
accordingly, for example, mixed-sex toilets should be in individual, lockable
rooms and open directly onto public areas (e.g. a corridor).

This illustrates single sex toilets first, then you may provide mixed sex toilets but they have to assess safeguarding risks to these rooms opening on to corridors.

Just to highlight single sex:
Schools must not allow children into toilets designated for the opposite
biological sex.

..if a gender-questioning child does not want to use the toilet designated for their biological sex, schools and colleges should consider whether they can provide an alternative toilet facility, for example self-contained individual
toilets, without compromising the provision of single-sex facilities. (Note: my bold)

Facilities, in toilet terms, means washbasins and hand dryers.

There’s also new technical guidance for schools on building design for 2026. These discuss separate sex suites for toilets.

Oldknowe · 19/08/2026 00:57

They think it's so funny on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19Nhkxf6cn/
Lots of small-minded crowing about toilets at home.

BunfightBetty · 19/08/2026 08:46

Canadanian · 18/08/2026 22:49

I don’t have a problem going into a toilet after a man. Have you never been on a plane? It’s the people (gender critical campaigners) who have caused employers to turn to this kind of solution that seem to have a problem with it.

Your beliefs have ultimately made things less safe for disabled people (because of the floor to ceiling doors etc) so don’t pretend it’s a top priority for you now. And have you considered some trans people are disabled? Do you care about them?

Do you care about the safety of women and children?

RedHoodGirl · 19/08/2026 08:51

Delphigirl · 18/08/2026 22:17

We had this at work. We put a flouncy wicker basket in one loo stuffed full of sanitary products with a big sign decorated with hearts “if in need help yourself” and voila. Men use the other loos 🤣🤣🤣

So, you mean that people used bathrooms based on whether they self-identified as a woman/ needs sanitary products, and everything works wonderfully?

MarieDeGournay · 19/08/2026 09:17

Pistachiocake · 18/08/2026 22:43

If the toilet for disabled people is unisex, why do you think it's ok for you to have a problem going into a toilet after a man, but think it's fine for a disabled person to have to?

If you don't, ok, but it seems like you're complaining about the change, and didn't have a problem with how things were before.

Personally it wouldn't bother me either way, but people with disabilities often have things far harder (not enough toilets they can use easily, people who don't need an accessible toilet using the only toilet they can use, etc).

Accessible toilets are mixed sex so carers of opposite sex may accompany the disabled person.
It's not 'fine', it would be great to have single sex adapted toilets as well, there will always have to be mixed sex accessible toilets for the above reason.

But a more pressing issue is able-bodied people who do not need adaptations using the accessible toilet; for instance, able-bodied transpeople using the accessible toilet for no reason other than they choose not to use the toilet designated for their sex.

Single sex toilet blocks have what are referred to as 'ambulant' cubicles, which are wider and have some extras like rails, these cater for people with disabilities who don't need all the adaptations in a fully accessible toilet, for instance mobility problems. who just need a bit of extra support but don't need an adapted toilet.

The extra space is also helpful for parents with buggies, travellers with luggage, shoppers with shopping, etc.

It's sad to see this range of provision - limited and inadequate though it is - being steamrollered by a move to all-mixed-sex enclosed cubicles, which have red flags around health and safety, but also there are big questions about how many mixed sex cubicles = the same availability and throughput of the existing men's/women's/accessible configuration.

Compare and contrast the availability and waiting time for two separate sex-segregated toilet spaces, including urinals in the men's toilet, and however many building-regs compliant mixed sex 'universal' toilets they've managed to fit into the same space. Good luck with that...😒

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 19/08/2026 09:29

Dhama · 27/05/2025 14:32

In light of the SC ruling. Wtaf

Previously we had men, women and a unisex accessible toilet. They have now, in the guise of being inclusive, removed all signage and all are mixed sex.

The toilets are all individual, lockable with washing facilities included but that’s not the point. I hate using a toilet after men have been in there fgs.

We are a LA so unsure what the provisions are in other offices across the county.

I have emailed the head of facilities but not sure if I can do anything else.

am so cross

Tell them to put them back. Easier said than done.

Datun · 19/08/2026 09:55

The foot shooting crowing of trans activists with the, well if we can't have it you can't either, nonsense is always so revealing.

The thing is, I don't think they really care. The gloves came off years ago, they wear their misogyny with pride.

I hope you managed to get somewhere, OP. The fact that nobody likes these toilets, men or women, will win out in the end, I'm sure.

StandingDeskDisco · 19/08/2026 16:04

TangenitalContrivences · 27/05/2025 15:12

Sample letter I'd send to HR:

Subject: Urgent: reinstatement of single-sex toilet provision – legal compliance & staff dignity

Dear [HR Manager],

I am writing as a female member of staff to raise a formal health-and-safety and equality grievance. Last week all women’s toilets were re-signed as “universal”, leaving no single-sex provision in this building.

1 . Legal position

  • Supreme Court, For Women Scotland v Scottish Ministers (16 Apr 2025). The Court confirmed that the protected characteristic of “sex” in the Equality Act refers to biological sex. Employers must therefore recognise women as a distinct legal category.
  • EHRC interim guidance (26 Apr 2025). Organisations should normally maintain female-only facilities; mixed-sex can be additional, not a replacement.
  • Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992, Reg 20. Separate sanitary conveniences for men and women are mandatory unless each toilet is an individual, fully-enclosed room with its own wash-basin and lock.
  • Building Regulations 2010 – new Part T (in force 1 Oct 2024). Future refurbishments must provide reasonable single-sex toilets; universal cubicles are only allowed in addition or where space genuinely precludes separate ladies’ and gents’.

2 . Impact on women’s dignity & safety
The loss of a dedicated women’s facility compromises privacy, religious observance and personal safety. Several colleagues have already stated they avoid drinking water or extend “holding on” rather than use the new arrangement. This is a potential health risk and a form of indirect sex discrimination.

3 . Remedy sought

  1. Reinstate clearly-signed female toilets (and male toilets) on each floor.
  2. Retain or add universal/all-gender single-occupancy rooms as an extra choice, ensuring they meet lockable, fully-enclosed standards.
  3. Confirm, in writing within 14 days, the timetable for compliance and the risk assessment covering privacy, dignity and health.

If these steps are not taken I will have to escalate the matter via our internal grievance policy and, if necessary, seek external enforcement through the Health & Safety Executive and the Employment Tribunal.

I look forward to your prompt response.

This, but without the third bullet point, which is redundant in this case because they are all fully-enclosed rooms with facilities inside.

wmch · 20/08/2026 20:43

Dhama · 27/05/2025 14:32

In light of the SC ruling. Wtaf

Previously we had men, women and a unisex accessible toilet. They have now, in the guise of being inclusive, removed all signage and all are mixed sex.

The toilets are all individual, lockable with washing facilities included but that’s not the point. I hate using a toilet after men have been in there fgs.

We are a LA so unsure what the provisions are in other offices across the county.

I have emailed the head of facilities but not sure if I can do anything else.

am so cross

Women's toilets are inherently dirtier than men's, so the fact the loos are now open to all should see them being less filthy.

Keeptoiletssafe · 20/08/2026 21:14

wmch · 20/08/2026 20:43

Women's toilets are inherently dirtier than men's, so the fact the loos are now open to all should see them being less filthy.

That’s incorrect. In terms of pathogen load, it goes unisex the most, then mens then womens.

Unisex are worse because of the enclosed design and the flush plume goes over the sink and dryer. If it’s a warm air dryer you can end up with more microbes on your hands than you started with, depending how often the filter is cleaned. Men are scientifically proven not as likely to wash their hands so when people exit the unisex toilet, the handle will have particles on it that transfer to washed hands.

BunfightBetty · 20/08/2026 21:34

wmch · 20/08/2026 20:43

Women's toilets are inherently dirtier than men's, so the fact the loos are now open to all should see them being less filthy.

Not sure where you get this idea from. @Keeptoiletssafe has brilliantly covered the science and data, as always.

But even if you go off the evidence of your own eyes and nose, men piss all over the floor, women don’t.

Unisex loos are always dirtier and smellier than women’s single sex loos. My heart sinks when out and about and I spot that the only option is a unisex loo. If I’m wearing flared jeans I just forget it - I’m not risking soaking up the puddle of piss into my trousers. It’s really infuriating.

Datun · 20/08/2026 21:41

I was at an outdoor event last year, where they had unisex portaloos. Every single portaloo had both seats up, piss all over the loos the underneath of the top seat and the floor. Absolutely minging.

Several women were going into the woods to wee rather than use the toilets. And other others were trying to find a local pub.

Women had absolutely no suitable provision.

Keeptoiletssafe · 20/08/2026 22:37

It is a fact that if you relabel a unisex toilet ‘gender-neutral’ it makes men close the door after they enter, clean up after themselves, wash their hands and leave the toilet smelling of roses.

*actually this fact may be made up.

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