This year's pride month

[maybeuptight]

Just wondering if anyone thinks it might be different this year?

Last year it felt like you couldn't leave the house in June without encountering rainbow "Love is Love" posters, Tesco sold drag garden gnomes, and bacon lettuce tomato sandwiches turned into LGBT sandwiches in my local shop.

This year some local pride events have reported inadequate funding, and Stonewall have said they are in financial difficulties. But the Supreme Court ruling has also prompted lots of protests, so maybe people will feel motivated to get involved?

I live in Surrey, where Pride in Surrey is still posting all over Facebook. Usually their posts are followed by people posting the news articles about the founder of Pride in Surrey and a volunteer of PiS being convicted of serial offences last year. But they still post like it didn't happen.

I think pride has been taken over by straight men with mascara and false nails on looking for a 'fellow lesbian ' to date

If I see a pride flag emblazoned on any establishment they can FRO. Shops, coffee shops, marketing emails, anything I will never spend my money there. I have a large FRO list in my head at this point.

(as in Fuck Right Off)

I support LGB anything but their flag has been stolen from them and now serves only to really piss me off.

Yes, thank you.

I used to understand Pride as celebrating being proud to be openly homosexual and fighting for inclusively, because there was a time gay people were discriminated against.
With the inclusion of heterosexual people pretending to be the opposite sex wanting homosexual to accept them, it's a mess.

I’ve noticed that too, or at least a version of it. It feels like the original purpose of Pride, visibility, rights, and solidarity, has gotten blurred by a lot of unrelated agendas. I think many people still go with good intentions, but it’s hard to ignore how the tone and focus have shifted in recent years.

Im inclined to give the straightforward rainbow flag the benefit of the doubt - it may at least sometimes show a bit of resistance to the newfangled one with extra bits on it.

Also, straight (sometimes "bi-curious" as a "get in") women attending (with their kids) en masse to virtue signal. It gets on my nerves as a straight person, it must really jar if you're gay.

Indeed. And it still would very much have an important place, if it had been allowed to remain as it's original incarnation, which was specifically Gay Pride.

Yes, rather than ‘straight shameless’, which seems to more aptly describe some of the folx nowadays.

I’ve only seen a couple of flags and they are the basic rainbow flag not the one with all the new bits.

I have noticed very little but have now retired and my main contractor NHS Fife were the worst offender for sticking Pride and trans stuff in to NHS Fife screensavers via the intranet newsletters and just about everything they sent. It always went on for far longer than a month as well.

The only Pride stuff I've seen so far this month is in my local library which has a they/them young woman working there.

She was dressed like a rainbow had thrown up on her yesterday, she was wearing a badge the size of a dinner plate displaying her pronouns, and she had a small flag on the back of her computer.

Contrast to last year when my local council was putting Pride flags up anywhere and everywhere that had a flagpole. We've been taken over by Reform now, who I imagine have put a stop to that.

I didn’t think they had Pride in those countries.

Got a message from DD's college about "pronouns" and how important they are. Nothing about what Pride was originally about just a message (quoting mermaids) about how to be kind and not misgender people.

I live not that far from Stroud, I will be avoiding their Pride celebrations as I am on their list of people not welcome.

‘Contrast to last year when my local council was putting Pride flags up anywhere and everywhere that had a flagpole. We've been taken over by Reform now, who I imagine have put a stop to that.’

I think Reform councils have decided that only the Union Flag and the English cross of St. George can been flown from publicly funded buildings. It wasn’t targeted at ‘Pride’ but at the secessionist flags and those declaring political allegiance to non British countries and / or organisations.

I wonder if it's ok for trans people who don't support lesbians to have their own spaces are allowed to be there?

Hopefully, a whole month is ridiculous! I've always been pro freedom and rights for all, but even my lbgtq friends agree it's a farce to go on for so long. Lots of other important causes which barely get a day, and so many now, most people don't even know about them.

Nothing at all in my local Tesco. A big change from last year.

Pride is going the way of MacMillan coffee mornings, Movember and Christmas Jumper Day; dying out.

All of these things are trendy for about five years and then people get fed up.

The LTA is still fully on board with Pride Day Friday. At all tennis events on Fridays throughout June spectators are expected to wear rainbow, players have rainbow laces, spectators buy a lot of rainbow tat etc.

They're doing to show support for LGBT+ people and that they can play tennis too, because it's not as though there have ever been any multi Grand Slam winning lesbians...

Who is they?

But don't be silly - there will be lots of lesbians at pride events across the country. Myself included. But hopefully those who are not supportive of LGBT+ rights are excluded, regardless of gender.

Ok, I now need a drag garden gnome 😁
Sorry, as you were....

This is absolute nonsense.

I have plenty of objections about the corporatisation and commercialisation of pride. But it is simply incorrect to say that lesbian, gay and bi people are pushed out of pride.

What you might mean is that the very small minority of LGB people who are anti-trans are pushed out. That's not the same thing though.

It would be a bit like saying Christians are excluded despite lots of Christians participating, and the only Christians being excluded being the ones who are anti LGBT+.

It is perfectly obvious that that post from Stroud Pride was referring to trans exclusionary views.

Quite right that organisations or viewpoints of the likes of the LGB Alliance should be banned. They are anathema of what Pride is about.

Of course those with trans exclusionary views are welcome to their own pride events. Though I think they've tried that and they were all flops. Almost like the vast majority of lesbians, gays and bi people actually want their pride events to be trans inclusive.