Two biological men a day given trans surgery on the NHS

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I couldn’t see this had been posted already. From the Telegraph with an interview with a detransitioner. Some of these patients were just so, so young.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/25/two-biological-men-a-day-given-trans-surgery-on-nhs/

archive.is/EcAqN

I see it as natural selection in action. Just a shame I have to pay for it.

You couldn't make this crap up

That article needs a better proof reader!! It says a large proportion of those going under the knife are under 18, then goes on to say the youngest were 19 or 20. Obviously I don't think anyone should be having the dangerous, experimental surgery, but it undermines the argument if you get the details so wrong.

I do sympathise with the young ones. Under-25s make bad decisions because the brain is not fully developed, and this type of surgery shouldn't be an option for them.
But, selfishly, I also feel annoyed by this because I'm waiting for orthopaedic surgery just now and the list is very long.

IIUC mastectomy, penectomy, cosmetic surgery, etc cannot be performed in the UK on under-18s unless there is a physical medical reason, eg cancer or severe damage. At what age can a patient be referred for these surgeries? Do they have to wait until 18, or can they be referred earlier?

Where does it say "..a large proportion of those going under the knife are under 18"?

The story I read following the archive link says

"A series of freedom of information requests show that 18-year-olds were among those going under the knife..."

"Young people can be referred for surgery from the age of 17, though the operation cannot take place until they are 18."

"Whilst a detailed breakdown of ages was not released, the data show that in 2021, of the 189 procedures carried out, 47 per cent of the patients were under 30 and the youngest was 18."

The story says "Young people can be referred for surgery from the age of 17, though the operation cannot take place until they are 18."

That's horrifying 😢So many young people who are not clearly trans, and who have no idea what they are sacrificing, what they are doing to themselves... They should be protected from making such decisions, not encouraged!

How long are women having to wait for reconstructive surgery after breast cancer?

The understatement of the bloody century: The surgery includes removing the penis and testicles and using the skin to create a “canal” to imitate the vagina.
The NHS says that the surgery “is not reversible” and can cause “permanent infertility”.

So, removing the penis and testicles can cause permanent infertility... are they implying that in some, rare cases it doesn't cause permanent infertility? I would have thought that “is not reversible” and causes “permanent infertility” would be much more honest.

It's so incredibly unethical.

A doctor would not be permitted to remove someone's arm if they asked for it and consented. I will never understand why they are allowed to perform these surgeries.

Further down the article, three paragraphs below the photo of Ritchie Herron.

And whilst these things aren't as important as reconstructive or life saving surgery, it's worth noting that women don't get aesthetic surgeries on the NHS despite the fact that for some women, the issues they're seeking to treat really do impact their quality of life "living as a woman".

This is the paragraph before the last one you quoted:

An FOI to Nuffield Health, one of the largest providers of the surgery, revealed a large proportion of those going under the knife are under 18.

It's obviously incorrect, since it also says: Young people can be referred for surgery from the age of 17, though the operation cannot take place until they are 18.

Men and women are strongly advised by the NHS to wait until after the age of 30 for sterilisation, as they're much more likely to regret it before that age.

Want your penis chopped off and testes removed? Absolutely. Only 17? No problem, just wait a few months and we will sort it for you. It'll likely to lead to a lifetime of issues and you'll definitely be infertile, but .....trans

It's fucking outrageous.

Should women be permitted to have a breast reduction if they want it?

Me too Ive been off work for a year and a half immobile and mostly bed bound and have just had my op. I've only kept my job because my manager was so nice to me.

Or even a lumpectomy / mammogram when they actively have cancer.

Yes, if there's a health reason for it, like a bad back from massive boob's for example.

As long as the men can’t sue when they’ve changed their minds it’s ok by me.

Do eunuchs have extra health risks? Can’t think of any.

Why doesn't every teenager who feels their body isn't as masculine or feminine as they'd like get cosmetic surgery on the NHS?

Makes sense. Wouldn’t gender dysphoria be the reason for a trans person to have surgery?

A damaged back is a physical problem. Appropriate surgery, including breast reduction if that is the cause, is sensible and effective. Gender issues are psychological. Surgery is not a sensible solution. There is no evidence to show it is effective.

Have you seen the requirements to be diagnosed with GD? It relies on sexist ideas like "A strong conviction that one has the typical feelings and reactions of the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one’s designated gender)".

If you think your healthy body is wrong because you have character traits you think only the opposite sex have, I would say it makes more sense to address that psychologically rather than agreeing with them.

What do you mean by a "trans person"?

"Trans" covers so many conditions. Not all people who identify as trans have gender dysphoria.