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anyolddinosaur · 28/05/2025 17:16

Leaving aside the start and end that's a very good response - and if my MP ever bothers to reply (I suspect he won't) I'll probably use it. I think I'm on his list of "dont bother" - but that means I can put comments on the local Facebook page about how he doesnt bother to reply to constituents unless they agree with him. 😀His supporters always have puff pieces about him before elections.

IwantToRetire · 28/05/2025 20:23

Holier-than-thou Jolyon is going to find JK Rowling a far tougher opponent than the fox he beat to death - Suzanne Moore
https://archive.is/ONON0

Strangely the original version of the article said "Woke Barrister Jolyon"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/28/jolyon-maugham-accuses-jk-rowling-of-anti-feminism/

ErrolTheDragon · 28/05/2025 20:35

She’s not a fan, is she?Grin

PrettyDamnCosmic · 29/05/2025 07:07

ErrolTheDragon · 28/05/2025 20:35

She’s not a fan, is she?Grin

From the Suzanne Moore article:

This man, though, calls her “a billionaire cry-baby”. He won’t care what I say. He blocked me a long time ago for being “rude”. In other words, I challenged him. Still, I have had the dubious pleasure of once being at a dinner with him. We got an extra chair for his ego. He was droning on and I went out for a lot of “smoking breaks”. (I don’t smoke.)

DrudgeJedd · 29/05/2025 20:14

Oof she really pressed his buttons with that article, he's absolutely fizzing

JK Rowling - Women’s Fund
ThatCyanCat · 29/05/2025 20:15

He's so adolescent. What a fucking tool.

SirChenjins · 30/05/2025 08:49

The power she has over him is wonderful to behold!

Datun · 30/05/2025 08:55

Oh dear, I think he needs a bit of a lie down.

It doesn't seem to have occurred to men like Jolyon and Willoughby that, when using an online platform, they should really think twice before sticking it to women who write for a living.

ThatCyanCat · 30/05/2025 09:28

People are so mad that not only does she have the resources to fight this, they can't put it down to her having the money from an inheritance or marriage. She not only earned it all herself, she earned it doing something no sane person enters into for the money. She wasn't an investment banker or, God help us, a tax lawyer. She did it being creative and driven, capturing the world with her imagination, and now she uses the crazy money to pay her taxes, set up charities and level the playing field for women who couldn't fight otherwise because they were up against institutions and governments.

It makes them furious!

Greyskybluesky · 30/05/2025 09:38

I agree @ThatCyanCat. I was highly amused the other day when a renowned furious poster on here had a dig at her for writing in a cafe owned by a member of her family as if that made her in some way massively privileged!
It was hilarious 😂

aylis · 30/05/2025 10:09

DrudgeJedd · 29/05/2025 20:14

Oof she really pressed his buttons with that article, he's absolutely fizzing

Wow he is desperate for her to notice him more

aylis · 30/05/2025 10:11

Meanwhile, the kind of shit Jolyon Maugham writes:

I'm sitting, writing, under an apricot tree in Cyprus and every welcome breeze brings a small series of 'plops' as the ripe fruit falls, sometimes through the rosemary bush, to the ground. They taste the best, those that pick up the scent as they fall.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/05/2025 10:17

If jkr (new book in a popular series coming out, massive new series in the pipeline, rich enough to pay her taxes and be a huge philanthropist - with an emphasis on being a philogynist - with enough left over for a yacht…) is an example of being ‘washed up’ … hell, where’s the beach she’s landed on? 😂

Datun · 30/05/2025 10:23

aylis · 30/05/2025 10:11

Meanwhile, the kind of shit Jolyon Maugham writes:

I'm sitting, writing, under an apricot tree in Cyprus and every welcome breeze brings a small series of 'plops' as the ripe fruit falls, sometimes through the rosemary bush, to the ground. They taste the best, those that pick up the scent as they fall.

Oh my God.

Clunky to the point of being almost unreadable.

C minus

SidewaysOtter · 30/05/2025 10:35

aylis · 30/05/2025 10:11

Meanwhile, the kind of shit Jolyon Maugham writes:

I'm sitting, writing, under an apricot tree in Cyprus and every welcome breeze brings a small series of 'plops' as the ripe fruit falls, sometimes through the rosemary bush, to the ground. They taste the best, those that pick up the scent as they fall.

Blimey, he's trying (and failing) to be Nigel Slater now. Is there no start to this man's talents?

SionnachRuadh · 30/05/2025 10:54

I didn't think of Nigel Slater so much as EJ Thribb.

So. Hello again
Jolyon Maugham KC. "The
so-called Supreme Court
has erred in law." Yes. That
is your catchphrase.
Sometimes you also
wonder aloud
about why women don't
understand feminism
like you do. Keith's mum
says you even pick
arguments with JK Rowling.
Oh dear.

murasaki · 30/05/2025 11:00

SionnachRuadh · 30/05/2025 10:54

I didn't think of Nigel Slater so much as EJ Thribb.

So. Hello again
Jolyon Maugham KC. "The
so-called Supreme Court
has erred in law." Yes. That
is your catchphrase.
Sometimes you also
wonder aloud
about why women don't
understand feminism
like you do. Keith's mum
says you even pick
arguments with JK Rowling.
Oh dear.

Perfect.

murasaki · 30/05/2025 11:00

Or a shoe in for Pseud's corner.

CapitalAtRisk · 30/05/2025 11:13

ErrolTheDragon · 30/05/2025 10:17

If jkr (new book in a popular series coming out, massive new series in the pipeline, rich enough to pay her taxes and be a huge philanthropist - with an emphasis on being a philogynist - with enough left over for a yacht…) is an example of being ‘washed up’ … hell, where’s the beach she’s landed on? 😂

I think he was referencing Suzanne Moore, there.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/05/2025 11:23

CapitalAtRisk · 30/05/2025 11:13

I think he was referencing Suzanne Moore, there.

Ah, ok.
still wrong, of course.

ThatCyanCat · 30/05/2025 11:28

CapitalAtRisk · 30/05/2025 11:13

I think he was referencing Suzanne Moore, there.

She's a writer for one of the national dailies, having been hounded off another national daily for not believing men can be women, and that paper was doing so well it had to sell its Sunday edition. Oh, and the one she moved to has a readership of about three times the one she was hounded from. So yes, she may not be JKR, but if she's washed up then she's on a better beach than the one she was hounded from.

CapitalAtRisk · 30/05/2025 11:34

ThatCyanCat · 30/05/2025 11:28

She's a writer for one of the national dailies, having been hounded off another national daily for not believing men can be women, and that paper was doing so well it had to sell its Sunday edition. Oh, and the one she moved to has a readership of about three times the one she was hounded from. So yes, she may not be JKR, but if she's washed up then she's on a better beach than the one she was hounded from.

Well, yes. You and I know that. But Jolyon thinks that men can be women, but has no respect for women who actually are women, who stand up to his nonsense.

ThatCyanCat · 30/05/2025 11:40

CapitalAtRisk · 30/05/2025 11:34

Well, yes. You and I know that. But Jolyon thinks that men can be women, but has no respect for women who actually are women, who stand up to his nonsense.

Of course. I'm just noting that Moore is hardly washed up either.

Basically, he just thinks anything is lesser if it was achieved by, or reserved for, women. Which is why he has no problem giving it to men instead, when it will suddenly take on peak importance.

CassOle · 30/05/2025 11:54

I guess that Jolyon has identified SM as 'washed up', and as we know, TRAs can identify as things that are in opposition to reality, but they can also give others identities that they have not chosen.

aylis · 30/05/2025 12:07

Maugham on the one hand lecturing women about feminism, on the other having zero analysis about the conditions Suzanne Moore works in as a female critic of the concept of gender identity ie a feminist critique of gender.