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ThatCyanCat · 26/05/2025 10:26

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/05/2025 09:31

Also, where are all the “Good Law Project” cases about these issues then?

Indeed. If, as Chris so confidently states, the fund is only going to go on vexatious cases suing people for being trans or saying things terfs don't like, and will lose them all, then Jolyon should be champing at the bit to defend those cases. It would be easy wins, fabulous precedent rulings for men who want to claim their human right to access naked women and children and he'll be quids in on JKR's money and enjoy totally humiliating her and those she defends. He's all over X right now blustering about how he's not scared of her and he's the hero to her villainy. So come on, Jolyon. This should be easier than clubbing a fox.

BezMills · 26/05/2025 10:36

Standing there in his kimono. All mouth and no trousers

UrsulasHerbBag · 26/05/2025 10:37

I bet he’s desperate to get his claws on one of those cases so he can fill his coffers. He isn’t in this for anything other than the fame and likes, he bloody loves the attention and fawning. I can’t ever get past him sliding into Shon Faye’s DMs. He makes me shudder with revulsion.

yourhairiswinterfire · 26/05/2025 10:42

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/05/2025 09:20

”Writing on the social media site Bluesky, Maugham said that “for JK Rowling ‘sex-based rights’ are not the right to be paid the same as men, to live without sexual violence or coercion, to share the burden of unpaid labour, to escape the motherhood penalty or have domestic abuse taken seriously. They are about the exclusion of trans women. Mind-blowing”.

Foxy’s comment is such a disingenuous straw man.

Ooh, she's seen it.

'This is a lie, and an easily provable lie. I’ve spent the best part of three decades funding initiatives and donating to charities serving vulnerable women, including domestic violence shelters. The charitable trust I set up in 2000 focuses on alleviating social deprivation, with a focus on women and children, including female refugees. I’ve funded an initiative to help female ex-prisoners secure jobs, I helped fly professional women out of Afghanistan because they were in danger from the Taliban, I’ve publicly voiced my support for women’s reproductive rights, I founded and fund a women-only rape crisis centre and I’ve campaigned for and funded projects to help single mothers.

I myself am a survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault, as trans activists never tire of reminding me, whether to hope it happens to me again, or assert, as Maugham has, that I was left with unresolved trauma that leaves me irrational on the subject of physical risk to women.

Maugham is imploding in real time because he’s furious the Supreme Court decision put him back in his box. He was wrong on the law. He pretended it said what it doesn’t. The court reaffirmed the sex-based rights of women, but Maugham’s vanity and delusion make it impossible for him to accept (yet another) loss. So his grift continues, his lies grow bigger and more obvious, and now might be a good time for him to reread the myth of Icarus, because nobody needs clairvoyant powers to foresee how this is going to end.'

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1926929052331294950

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1926929052331294950

yourhairiswinterfire · 26/05/2025 10:43

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PonyPatter44 · 26/05/2025 10:48

Holy shit, she is getting cross. I think they may have poked the bear once too often. Good.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 26/05/2025 10:48

IANAL. I am not even a tax lawyer. But I had to do annual GDPR training for.work, and here is what I kmow.

  • An FOI request can ask for any information, but only from a public body. Neither JKR not this fund is a pubic body.
  • A SAR can be submitted to any company or organisation, but only to ask what information they hold about you personally.
  • The fund will have a data controller, and probably 1 or more processors, but JKR having set it up doesn't mean she personally is the controller or processor. I'd be astounded if she hasn't employed someone for that.
  • If JRK has had any chats with her lawyers about keeping an eye on the tweets of a certain fox botherer for anything actionable, she will have done this is a private individual, not via the fund. The solicitors may therefore hold SARable information - but as a private individual she will not.

Hat tip to @SionnachRuadh for the South Sea Bubble ref.

And for those wanting to support JRK's bank account but who can't afford to (re)buy all the books, remember authors also get a payment for any of their works borrowed from a library (with the bonus of supporting library usage statistics and therefore also library funding; and showing librarians that JKR/RG books are popular and should be stocked).

Justme56 · 26/05/2025 10:52

I do wonder if the fox had identified as a hen, whether Maugham would have acted differently. He certainly seems to think in other contexts it’s absolutely fine.

fromorbit · 26/05/2025 10:53

Turns out that the Fox-basher was on a rather nice 400,000 a year while running GLP in 2019 !

https://order-order.com/2019/02/07/jolyon-maugham-trousering-400000-year-net/

The revenue must have dropped off from those days. No wonder he is so keen to get more money in.

While arguing with JKR the clock is ticking. When is this legal challenge against the Supreme Court/EHCR going to start exactly? Or was it a scam by some crazy chance.

Jolyon Maugham Trousering £400,000 a Year Net

Jolyon's most preposterous crowdfunded case has finally reached court, almost a full two years after the People's Maugham originally convinced over three

https://order-order.com/2019/02/07/jolyon-maugham-trousering-400000-year-net/

moggly · 26/05/2025 10:58

Jolyon's obsession with JKR has ramped up a notch today. He's started to name newspapers after her:

Some more inconvenient evidence for you to ignore, @rthonwesstreeting.bsky.social? Still, what matters a few more dead kids if you minimise negative press from The Daily Rowling.

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.org/post/3lq2np7neqk2o

Jolyon Maugham KC (@goodlawproject.org)

Some more inconvenient evidence for you to ignore, @rthonwesstreeting.bsky.social? Still, what matters a few more dead kids if you minimise negative press from The Daily Rowling. [contains quote post or other embedded content]

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.org/post/3lq2np7neqk2o

CapitalAtRisk · 26/05/2025 11:02

I wondered why JKR mentioned him wanting to be a Gandhi for transgenerism, then I found this, from an interview with him in The Times in 2023:

“I identify with the great protesters in history, people like Gandhi and Martin Luther King,” he says

Absolute pompous twat! No wonder nobody in the legal world can stand him.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/jolyon-maugham-the-fox-killing-lawyer-i-identify-with-gandhi-5l3ljp89k

Jolyon Maugham, the fox-killing lawyer: ‘I identify with Gandhi’

He’s the ‘lawfare’ barrister who almost derailed Brexit — and clubbed a fox to death in a kimono. Is he the justice warrior the country needs or an egotist doing more harm than good?

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/jolyon-maugham-the-fox-killing-lawyer-i-identify-with-gandhi-5l3ljp89k

SionnachRuadh · 26/05/2025 11:04

moggly · 26/05/2025 10:58

Jolyon's obsession with JKR has ramped up a notch today. He's started to name newspapers after her:

Some more inconvenient evidence for you to ignore, @rthonwesstreeting.bsky.social? Still, what matters a few more dead kids if you minimise negative press from The Daily Rowling.

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.org/post/3lq2np7neqk2o

Hasn't Jolyon already been ticked off for talking nonsense about kids being suicidal because they can't get their puberty blockers?

The words "thin ice" and "skating" come to mind.

PonyPatter44 · 26/05/2025 11:09

He wants JK to come after him. Look what happened to Gandhi and MLK in the end - they were martyred for the cause. He knows the TRAs and the handmaidens will send him more money than even he has ever trousered before if JKR sees him in court. Every asset he owns is probably in the hands of his wife /children / offshore corporation, so even if (when) she wins, he won't be bankrupted.

DialSquare · 26/05/2025 11:09

If trans rights have no affect on women’s rights, why have they reacted so furiously to a fund for women to help protect our rights?
JM in particular is coming across even more unhinged than I thought with his reaction to this.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/05/2025 11:16

DialSquare · 26/05/2025 11:09

If trans rights have no affect on women’s rights, why have they reacted so furiously to a fund for women to help protect our rights?
JM in particular is coming across even more unhinged than I thought with his reaction to this.

Isn’t he just??

he’s a lawyer, he should know to remove emotion from arguments and yet he seems to be reaching stratospheric levels of fury because he can’t actually touch her

abuse is the only weapon he has

TheOtherRaven · 26/05/2025 11:19

DialSquare · 26/05/2025 11:09

If trans rights have no affect on women’s rights, why have they reacted so furiously to a fund for women to help protect our rights?
JM in particular is coming across even more unhinged than I thought with his reaction to this.

Quite.

If no one is discriminating against a woman or breaking the law, there will be no case or finding in her favour regardless of how much money is thrown at it.

So this is a man chewing the scenery with rage - who was a legal professional - whose problem is that women would have the support to resist illegal discrimination and ill treatment?

Pure MRA.

moto748e · 26/05/2025 11:43

Just on that link the fox-botherer gave; sadly these days you just know that whatever you'd read in the American liberal press, the likes of Mother Jones and Rolling Stone, these days it'd be wall-to-wall gender lunacy. It's just so absulutely embedded in the anti-Trump world-view in the US, that they sometimes to me don't even seem to be capable of comprehending that left-wing liberal people can and do absolutely reject genderism.

Datun · 26/05/2025 11:46

SionnachRuadh · 26/05/2025 11:04

Hasn't Jolyon already been ticked off for talking nonsense about kids being suicidal because they can't get their puberty blockers?

The words "thin ice" and "skating" come to mind.

Dead kids?

Didn't Janice Turner win a lawsuit, or an apology, based on a similar accusation?

these men are utterly desperate now.

Frankly, although I think being banned from women's spaces is a lot of it, a significant portion is just being told no. By women.

Certainly Maugham has no investment in getting men into women's spaces, since his children are girls, aren't they?

The man who likened himself to Gandhi, is losing his shit by being told what to do by a woman.

Being out-classed at every turn is making him irrational.

I cannot imagine how he ever made a success of anything tbh.

zenas · 26/05/2025 11:52

I think a dignified silence on the part of JKR would have more effect now - going forward.

It won't end well if it continues on X etc. although I can understand completely that JKR responds as she sees fit, and maybe opens the eyes of others in the process.

ThatCyanCat · 26/05/2025 12:01

zenas · 26/05/2025 11:52

I think a dignified silence on the part of JKR would have more effect now - going forward.

It won't end well if it continues on X etc. although I can understand completely that JKR responds as she sees fit, and maybe opens the eyes of others in the process.

I don't know...the "dignity" of silence is overrated in my opinion, especially as it always seems to be women who are told their dignity is in silence. And anyway, even if it would be dignified, it wouldn't be anywhere near as fucking funny.

BountifulPantry · 26/05/2025 12:12

NoBinturongsHereMate · 26/05/2025 10:48

IANAL. I am not even a tax lawyer. But I had to do annual GDPR training for.work, and here is what I kmow.

  • An FOI request can ask for any information, but only from a public body. Neither JKR not this fund is a pubic body.
  • A SAR can be submitted to any company or organisation, but only to ask what information they hold about you personally.
  • The fund will have a data controller, and probably 1 or more processors, but JKR having set it up doesn't mean she personally is the controller or processor. I'd be astounded if she hasn't employed someone for that.
  • If JRK has had any chats with her lawyers about keeping an eye on the tweets of a certain fox botherer for anything actionable, she will have done this is a private individual, not via the fund. The solicitors may therefore hold SARable information - but as a private individual she will not.

Hat tip to @SionnachRuadh for the South Sea Bubble ref.

And for those wanting to support JRK's bank account but who can't afford to (re)buy all the books, remember authors also get a payment for any of their works borrowed from a library (with the bonus of supporting library usage statistics and therefore also library funding; and showing librarians that JKR/RG books are popular and should be stocked).

Edited

Any conversations JK has with her lawyers are privileged, meaning they cannot be accessed via a SAR or via disclosure in litigation.

SionnachRuadh · 26/05/2025 12:17

Frankly, although I think being banned from women's spaces is a lot of it, a significant portion is just being told no. By women.

There's definitely a thing with self-consciously right-on men, who probably think of themselves as feminist allies, where I don't think they can hear themselves doing it.

I'm thinking of a prominent male TRA of my acquaintance who knows Alice Sullivan, and I can hear the exasperation in his voice when he says "I just don't understand how Alice can take this entrenched position after I explained it to her."

Likewise I don't think Jolyon would consciously want to give the impression that he thinks of women as being intellectually lesser and a bit silly, and in need of the rational male (himself) to tell them how things are.

But his fury when a woman says no belies that.

MotherOfDottirs · 26/05/2025 12:26

Gardeninging · 23/05/2025 22:19

Good lord, it's a completely private fund, looks like she's just paying out of her own pocket 😲

It needs to be open to donations! (Not because JKR is skint, but because it's fair).

JKR has two funds she accepts donations for: Lumos and Anne Rowling Regenerative Neurology Clinic (research at University of Edinburgh). At least two other funds, Volant Small Grants and Beira’s Place don’t take donations. JKR even buys the teabags at Beira’s.
This wonderful fund to help fight back the genderborg doesn’t take donations. But if the applicants have a Crowdjustice site you can help them. She is an absolute treasure! I buy all her books; she has a new Strike story coming out in September.

murasaki · 26/05/2025 12:35

That's a good point, if we keep gardening for appropriate cases, then they might only need top ups from the fund and that allows more cases to be part funded.

murasaki · 26/05/2025 12:37

I see the gardening both as financial support albeit small, and as a visual acknowledgement to the person that I support them, it must be cheering to see so many people backing them and make them feel a bit less alone