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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

New Pride window in Belfast City Hall

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TheWitchWon · 23/05/2025 17:23

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1925882503417454717?t=LdPsR5-OaXqN7CJw6pFKlA&s=19

The slogan on the window

"Save Sodomy from Ulster"
It celebrates inclusivity apparently and is the Lord Mayor's proudest moment as the city's Mayor.

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1925882503417454717?s=19&t=LdPsR5-OaXqN7CJw6pFKlA

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TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 22:00

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 21:39

Could you tell me something I don’t know? What does this window actually achieve NOW? When people everywhere are struggling to pay their mortgages and bills and feed their children, but sure, go and look at a £25k stained glass window, I’m sure that’ll make the kids less hungry.

What do you think a stained glass window commemorating history can or should achieve?Confused

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 22:05

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 22:00

What do you think a stained glass window commemorating history can or should achieve?Confused

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I don’t think the money needed to be spent at all at this point when there are so many people in need. It’s quite simply an opportunity for this man to virtue signal his ‘goodness’, people in his position are always thinking about their ‘legacies’, and not about real people in real need.

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 22:07

MarieDeGournay · 23/05/2025 21:42

Perhaps, but it could have celebrated it better.

What a pity they couldn't have come up with something that celebrates the people (not all of them rate payers, surely) who campaigned for lesbian and gay rights in a piece of work that is less garish and graphically confused.

I don't find it garish, but that's personal taste I know. I think it's very clear. What's confusing you?

not all of them rate payers, surely
Who, what are you talking about?

MarieDeGournay · 23/05/2025 22:07

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 22:00

What do you think a stained glass window commemorating history can or should achieve?Confused

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A good standard of aesthetic attractiveness would be an achievement.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 22:07

MarieDeGournay · 23/05/2025 22:07

A good standard of aesthetic attractiveness would be an achievement.

This ⬆️😂

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 22:09

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 22:05

I don’t think the money needed to be spent at all at this point when there are so many people in need. It’s quite simply an opportunity for this man to virtue signal his ‘goodness’, people in his position are always thinking about their ‘legacies’, and not about real people in real need.

The mayor didn't commission it. The council did. He just unveiled it and said the same sort of stuff people doing unveiling say.😆

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 22:14

You might want to take a look at what the good rate paying people of Belfast are saying, and it’s not a ringing endorsement. He seems to have form for spending large sums on things that people don’t believe are necessary, the FOI requests are piling up!

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 22:17

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 22:09

The mayor didn't commission it. The council did. He just unveiled it and said the same sort of stuff people doing unveiling say.😆

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I don’t recall saying that he commissioned it, how is that relevant?

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 22:30

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 22:14

You might want to take a look at what the good rate paying people of Belfast are saying, and it’s not a ringing endorsement. He seems to have form for spending large sums on things that people don’t believe are necessary, the FOI requests are piling up!

Is it on Belfast Live? I checked at the start of the thread but there was nothing. Or are you seeing it somewhere else?

Going over to have a look now.🙈

SionnachRuadh · 23/05/2025 22:31

MarieDeGournay · 23/05/2025 22:07

A good standard of aesthetic attractiveness would be an achievement.

There are boys who paint muriels on the estates who, well, their work isn't popular with everyone on political grounds, but they know not to make their image too busy.

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 22:34

It’s quite simply an opportunity for this man to virtue signal his ‘goodness'

He didn't commission it. Hes not responsible for it. He unveiled it and said nice things. He's the mayor. It's his job. What do you want him to do?Confused

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 22:39

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 23/05/2025 22:14

You might want to take a look at what the good rate paying people of Belfast are saying, and it’s not a ringing endorsement. He seems to have form for spending large sums on things that people don’t believe are necessary, the FOI requests are piling up!

Ok, so it's still not on Belfast Live. I'm surprised because they print anything that'll get them clicks and comments.

Where are you seeing this?

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 22:47

SionnachRuadh · 23/05/2025 22:31

There are boys who paint muriels on the estates who, well, their work isn't popular with everyone on political grounds, but they know not to make their image too busy.

It's not popular with everyone on artistic grounds either.😆

PandoraSocks · 23/05/2025 22:49

SionnachRuadh · 23/05/2025 22:31

There are boys who paint muriels on the estates who, well, their work isn't popular with everyone on political grounds, but they know not to make their image too busy.

"Muriels" always makes me think of Hilda Ogden.

Screamingabdabz · 23/05/2025 22:51

What a wonderful symbol of disadvantaged and vulnerable people - a white male punching the air. Brilliant. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

SirChenjins · 23/05/2025 22:53

suggestionsplease1 · 23/05/2025 22:47

At a time when LGBT people are frightened to walk the streets at night this visible show of support and solidarity is needed more than ever

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/lgbt-people-fear-walking-home-in-belfast-over-hate-attacks-6M2QLSPE45BN7IINA6AZNFMYRY/

Whereas women are hounded out of their jobs, out of single sex spaces, lose their places on sports podiums , physically assaulted, threatened with death, decapitation and rape.

Your sympathies are misdirected .

suggestionsplease1 · 23/05/2025 22:56

Screamingabdabz · 23/05/2025 22:51

What a wonderful symbol of disadvantaged and vulnerable people - a white male punching the air. Brilliant. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Interesting. Normally when it is a non-white person FWR is the first place to moan about tokenism and bewail intersectionality.

Good to see you leave no stone unturned.

suggestionsplease1 · 23/05/2025 22:59

SirChenjins · 23/05/2025 22:53

Whereas women are hounded out of their jobs, out of single sex spaces, lose their places on sports podiums , physically assaulted, threatened with death, decapitation and rape.

Your sympathies are misdirected .

It's a fucking window.
It offers a little bit of support in the world to people who are experiencing increasing discrimination and hostility.
Get over it.

SirChenjins · 23/05/2025 23:03

It’s a window that celebrates the banning of a long-established organisation that fights against homophobia and has significant elements within it that supports violence, intimidation and intolerance against the legally established rights of women.

So no, it’s not just a fucking window.

suggestionsplease1 · 23/05/2025 23:06

SirChenjins · 23/05/2025 23:03

It’s a window that celebrates the banning of a long-established organisation that fights against homophobia and has significant elements within it that supports violence, intimidation and intolerance against the legally established rights of women.

So no, it’s not just a fucking window.

Please tell, which groups are you frequenting that are preying on your vulnerable mind in such a way?

SirChenjins · 23/05/2025 23:08

Please tell, which bits of my previous posts are you claiming have never, ever happened in the whole of history ever? I shall enjoy reading your newest delusions.

TheWitchWon · 23/05/2025 23:12

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 20:17

No, we don't have slogans celebrating sodomy, what a weird way of looking at it for someone who lived through it.Confused It's a small part of a stained glass window that represents a nasty chapter in our history.

But good art provokes a response so it's doing its job.Smile

To you it's weird.
To me it's not.
I just don't think it was a necessary part of the window.
Good art might provoke a response. But so does bad art. We obviously differ in our opinions as to which this is.

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suggestionsplease1 · 23/05/2025 23:14

SirChenjins · 23/05/2025 23:08

Please tell, which bits of my previous posts are you claiming have never, ever happened in the whole of history ever? I shall enjoy reading your newest delusions.

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😂 Well, I already have enjoyed reading your delusions which you have laid out fully for us.

To equate that stained glass window which has designed to be a display of support and solidarity for LGBT people as a depiction of homophobia is a fevered delusion indeed.

SirChenjins · 23/05/2025 23:15

suggestionsplease1 · 23/05/2025 23:14

😂 Well, I already have enjoyed reading your delusions which you have laid out fully for us.

To equate that stained glass window which has designed to be a display of support and solidarity for LGBT people as a depiction of homophobia is a fevered delusion indeed.

I didn’t think you could - it’s impossible to refute the truth. You demonstrate this inability constantly on these threads.