India's outburst to JKR 'I will always be more of a woman than you.'

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https://x.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1924912102063345706

India not happy with JKR drawing a line. Very aggressive.

Jo, you are bitter and twisted. A modern-day Miss Havisham. Bought court. You know it - I know it. I will always be more of a woman than you. The way you and your ghastly gang pretend to be the voice of all women is disgusting. And a joke. Along with the fact your daily sick bullying of women is completely ignored by UK media. You represent the Gender Critical movement - not women. I hope your boat sinks. Go fuck yourself. Trash.

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You very rarely see Emily Bridges standing up because when you do the frail, misunderstood, little flower image tumbles to the ground with a sound exactly like a well muscled six foot tall man tripping over his girly pigtails.

https://x.com/WRNWales/status/1759972113287377015

Ah, the old Revisionist Version of History tactic. Stalin did it too.

India hasnt cottoned on that it doesn’t work so well in the internet age when your lies posts keep popping back up to remind us of what you said earlier .

Women must not:

1. have an opinion
2. express views which men don't like
3. point out a man having a mantrum
4. behave in a way that could be perceived in any way as unbecoming
5. after having been the subject of tonnes of abuse, respond in anything but polite tones.
6. be anything less than virtue signalling saints. Merely doing good deeds and supporting multiple good causes is not good enough.
7. eventually think fuck this shit I'm just going to have a laugh about this utter bullshit

God forbid a woman is a sentinent human being capable of individual thoughts.

Fucks sake. Women can't do jack shit without some dickhead lecturing them about how they are wrong.

So what's the point in even trying to live up to impossible standards?

JKRowling gives no fucks because she's reached an age where she realised this.

This is not 'punching down'. This is refusing to be punched down on anymore.

For all the 'she should just ignore him/be nicer/oh, she's a nasty witch' posters, women in the beginning of all this were kind and sought to make ourselves accommodating, undoubtedly following early female socialisation.

Where did it get us? Fucking nowhere. With women imprisoned with violent male sex offenders as just one example.

It doesn't matter how prettily the no was couched. It doesn't matter if we were sweet, and kind and simpered. It's the no that men like India hate and despise so much.

As for 'punching down' - stand up for fucks sake. You're giving Drew Barrymore vibes.

Willoughby’s claim to be ‘more of a woman’ than JKR does make sense by his own standards. He sees himself through (obviously) male eyes.

To men like him, ‘woman’ is a collection of gender stereotypes: fragile, girly, heavily made-up, emotionally incontinent, for use by men, compliant, obsessed with being pretty and ‘feminine’. It’s all superficial and all a performance.

Women’s inner lives, strengths, thoughts etc are irrelevant. We’re either sex toys or worthless old crones. It’s sad really, for him I mean.

I'm reminded of when Helen Joyce talks about how parents of 'trans' kids will go on to try to destroy the lives of those whom they see as a standing reproach to them, because the parents have sold their child a bill of goods they can't deliver on.

This bill of goods is the promise that all other people (particularly women) will henceforth accept their son as a woman. Simply by us saying that we will never accept any men in 'women only' spaces, we are the ones who have to be bullied to try to force us to deliver on their promise.

https://youtube.com/shorts/EYJMY_2iFTM?

In much the same way, the men like WillNeverBe, Bergdorf, McCloud, Kaveney and White are presenting us with a similar bill of goods. They have spent big money on facial feminisation surgery, fake breasts, hair transplants, possibly inverting their penis etc and given themselves an endocrine disorder by taking cross sex hormones - all in a vain attempt to attain the simulacrum of a woman. They seem to believe that because it has personally cost them something - whether financially, physically or as a perceived loss of power or status - that, therefore, Society owes it to them to accept them as they see themselves.

And because some people over the years have been 'kind' and have told them polite lies and welcomed them into places and spaces they should never have been in, these men insist that, therefore, all of Society owes it to them to continue to believe and enforce the lies.

Because their doctors have some surgical skill but have not emphasised the limitations of transformation, and because sexist psychiatrists and parliamentarians said that they could do a real life test without thinking about the interests of women, these men insist that, therefore, Society owes it to them to disbelieve their eyes and accept they have really changed sex/are 'somatically female'/a 'biological woman'.

And because, for whatever reason, they won't accept that they personally are actually a gay/bisexual man, these men insist that, therefore, the whole of the rest of Society must redefine the meaning of the words 'gay' and 'man' and 'female' and 'lesbian' and 'real' and 'woman' in order that 0.2% of UK men don't have hurty feels. Let that penetrate.

This is why they then tend to fall into testerical rage when JKR or we or the Supreme Court insist we can still see the man they are and always will be.
All because we have the temerity to say "No" to the bill of goods we never agreed to.

I assume Willoughby sees himself as a booby blonde 21 year old from the cover of Loaded circa 1997; pouting and available.

Quite.

And it’s 100% obvious to everyone except the dick-panderers.

i remember Willoughby on WH, years ago, when he opined that women should wear tights and shave their legs otherwise it was unhygienic. Jenny Murray informed him that women’s body hair had been a feminist issue for quite some time. He didn’t seem to take any notice.

@1MnaAthCliath Nobody sees India as a woman. Not even India in their more lucid moments. That's why they are so bitter and aggressive at women (the real kind).

Feel free to go on X and tell your little piggy that women still don't want him in their spaces, no matter how much he cries and stamps his feet.

This is so true. I've literally never in my 45 years heard a woman say "I'm more of a woman than you". It's such a...well, manlike thing to say.

True. I think he’s very small compared to her but being silent gets us nowhere.

I’ve only encountered his name on mn threads anyway and pretty much no idea what he does as a job.

It’s clear a no often lends to male violence in words or actions.

Those two at it again huh.

IW is a useful idiot.

And therein lies the point.

Where here do you live? Because in the UK and much of the western democracies at least, trans people have held a disproportionate amount of political power for some years

Based on her name I’m going to guess @1MnaAthCliath (1DublinWoman) is Irish. In ireland Trans culture doesn’t seem as prevalent as it does in the UK but the trans community have even greater protections here than in the UK as our equivalent law to the equality act is based on gender and not sex. So yes they have plenty of power and protection here

The 'unhygenic' reminds me of the argument of certain cultures who practice FGM. One of the arguments was not cutting was unhygenic and women's reproductive systems would fill with puss unless they were cut. I seem to remeber one example was Kate Adie was directly told this to her face by a man.
Possibly in this program?
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04gzq5m

India “let that penetrate” Willoughby is the one aggressively punching down. His viscous behaviour towards Amanda Barrie, an older, smaller female, was stand out male aggression.

In that same show, he also harrassed Ginuwine, trying to get him to kiss him. Ginuwine was so obviously uncomfortable but India kept on at him. Genuwine had to say no several times. India also told Courtney Act (drag artist) that India was dragphobic. India was the first one voted out of the house. In today's society, he would have been booted out by producers.

And thinking about it, we should have been laughing at this nonsense from the beginning. Women saying sweetly and nicely 'er, hang on a minute' was met with screams of 'die in a grease fire, bigot bitch'.

The first 'sex is a spectrum, you're too stupid to have learned biology after Standard Grade' should have been met with laughter and 'don't be so fucking ridiculous'

The first 'trans women are the most oppressed, ever, ever, ever!!' should have been met by laughter and 'don't be so fucking ridiculous'.

The first male to say 'I'm more of a woman than you'll ever be'
should have been met by laughter and don't be so fucking ridiculous.

JKR's done that but with a touch more flair.

The whole thing sort of reminds me of the Boggart banishing charm from yes, Harry Potter.

'Riddikulus!'

India has also claimed to both trans and 'cis' (which means actual woman, as in born female) in his bio. I would say you can't make it up but...

It was listening to IW on this edition of WH that first led me to MN and thus to understanding the madness of gender ideology - so I suppose I should really be grateful to him.

Poor Jenni Murray. Hounded out of the BBC for daring not to believe the fairy tale.

Surely this constitutes defamation? Of the SC judges, that is? WIlloughby is saying they were bought. Now I appreciate that they’d need to prove loss of reputation or financial loss, but surely people cannot say things like this and go without consequences?

But I won't deny her the agency of choosing her own identity.
If you see her as a woman, her own description and choice, then Rowling's (and others) comments are punching down. TRANS people are currently very much oppressed.

@1MnaAthCliath you'd better tell India that he is punching down on the most oppressed then.

I mean, what's good for the goose...