Even a 10 year old can understand it

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Thanks to Haribo, my daughter and I have had one of the important chats a little earlier than I'd expected.

Sucked in by the power of marketing, she wanted to buy sweets in the supermarket, but they were branded with TERF wizard school stuff, so I explained that we could buy sweets, but not those, and she obviously wanted to know why.

Thus we had a short chat in the supermarket about how there was a person who had created those characters who turned out to be a bully, and she would get money from anything sold that was to do with her work. Then in the car we had a longer chat about trans people in which I was very conscious that my way of explaining who they are might not be the best and I might be putting it badly, but it was better to have the talk now than not at all.

Her current stance is that she is not OK with bullies and has immediately accepted that we don't buy anything that gives them money, and she specifically says she is on the side of trans people because some of them are our friends. Which might not be the perfect motivation, but I'll take it.

Usefully, this also led to a shorter talk about how people should be allowed to love and marry who they like irrespective of gender, but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

Respect is so simple a 10 year old can grasp it.

What is ‘terf wizard stuff’?

Children are so easily influenced, aren't they?

She means Harry Potter and JK Rowling. Why she hasn’t been able to write that down is a mystery.

Proof that children can be easily influenced isn't it.

Because it's easier to mislead with twisted words.

What are you talking about?
Nobody gives a shit who marries who or want goes on inside anyone else's bedrooms or private spaces.

But people do care about public single sex spaces being single sex.

Does your 10yo understand they have a right to privacy from the opposite sex?

I’d be disappointed that my 10 year old hadn’t asked what the “bully” had actually done and why it was bullying.

Oh I see. She’s one of those.

Don't play chess with pigeons.

You conned your daughter- well done 👏

On a technical note JK will have already been paid for the licencing. Buying or not buying disgusting jelly sweets won't effect that.

You've made a good choice though less sugar for your child.

And then did everyone stand up and clap? An imaginary talk with an imaginary daughter, you should write a book.

It's over, mate. Let it go.

You should have had the conversation on the bus so that everyone could clap. Shame.

I hope she's not held back in life by her and your lack of critical thinking.

At least she has an excuse, being 10.

Well done on not giving in to pestering about sugar. Too many children eat far far too much of it.
There seems to be a misunderstanding about marriage. Anyone of any 'gender' can love and marry anyone of any 'gender' because 'gender' is an indefinable social construct.
Also anyone of either sex can marry anyone of either sex: individuals of both sexes can marry someone of their own sex or of the opposite sex. That has been the law since 2010.
What individuals of the male sex can't do is use the legal rights given to the female sex under the Equality Act. Because obviously females need those 'extra' rights in order to take an equal place in society (in the same way as individuals without a disability cannot use the 'extra' rights given to people with a disability).
Otherwise of course you end up with males taking females' spaces, prizes, places on female shortlists etc. And males already have enough rights of their own, and further, if they are trans, can use their own 'extra' rights under the Equality Act.
So well done on one good bit of parenting (it's really hard sometimes to say no!) But maybe DD needs to know that her rights are as important as male rights and have to be protected.

Exactly. I’m concerned that some people are giving their daughters the impression that men’s feelings come before their discomfort, dignity or ability to set boundaries.

She could write one about wizards, it seems like she’s identified a gap in the market there.

I thought "one of the important chats" was going to be who's got vulvas and who's got willies.

Hope you managed to shoehorn that into your imaginary chat!

TERF wizard school stuff

Oh Lord, I can't stop laughing. You're actually ridiculous.

At least when Terfs boycott stuff, we can use our grown up words to describe the shop or service.

I’ll tell you what is also so simple even a ten year old can understand it: what a woman is.

I don't think it's good parenting to indoctrinate a pre-teen with gender identity ideology just before they're heading into the environment of secondary school where the ideology might soon be falling very badly out of fashion.

This post reminds me of this from a couple of years ago, when TRA’s inundated JKR with identical tweets-

‘JKRowling, I have a 12 year old trans daughter and she cries everytime she sees one of your transphobic posts. She is a huge fan of Harry Potter but seeing the author of her favourite book series being so bigoted is heartbreaking. Please J.K, make my daughter happy again.”

And JKR’s devastating response-
‘My one-year-old son just looked up from Twitter and said, 'Mummy, why have you made these very real children sad with your heinous yet unevidenced bigotry?'
"Then he ran upstairs and burned all his Potter books. I was so damn ashamed I almost forgot the kid was imaginary.”

Same shit, different day 😂

Oh yes I remember that. They mostly seem to have given up on that copy and paste trolling tactic now they’ve all flounced to Bluesky.

At a tangent, but it reminds me of a tweet a few years ago by a proud dad whose 2 daughters (about 6 and 8) had agreed with daddy that it was lovely that a boy (transgirl) had won the girls' running race at sports day because it was important to be kind. Daddy was so proud of their inclusive behaviour as "kids don't discriminate".

I felt so incredibly sad that daddy - the most influential male figure in these girls' lives at that point - thought it was right to tell his daughters that girls deserve second place in life. And not to realise that young kids will generally say anything for adult approval.