Even a 10 year old can understand it

[inkognithia]

Thanks to Haribo, my daughter and I have had one of the important chats a little earlier than I'd expected.

Sucked in by the power of marketing, she wanted to buy sweets in the supermarket, but they were branded with TERF wizard school stuff, so I explained that we could buy sweets, but not those, and she obviously wanted to know why.

Thus we had a short chat in the supermarket about how there was a person who had created those characters who turned out to be a bully, and she would get money from anything sold that was to do with her work. Then in the car we had a longer chat about trans people in which I was very conscious that my way of explaining who they are might not be the best and I might be putting it badly, but it was better to have the talk now than not at all.

Her current stance is that she is not OK with bullies and has immediately accepted that we don't buy anything that gives them money, and she specifically says she is on the side of trans people because some of them are our friends. Which might not be the perfect motivation, but I'll take it.

Usefully, this also led to a shorter talk about how people should be allowed to love and marry who they like irrespective of gender, but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

Respect is so simple a 10 year old can grasp it.

What did you tell to do if she's in a female changing area and someone gets their cock out? That she needs to accept that person is a woman and she's rude to have noticed or that he's a bad man and she should tell someone who can remove him?

Seeing a penis in a female only place is wrong and any 10 year old should be able to understand that.

I'm just remembering JKR's marshmallow tweet. I'm sure it took some of the shine off the 'I'm going to make a pyre of all my HP books and merchandise, you bigot!!!' copy and pasters.

Usefully, this also led to a shorter talk about how people should be allowed to love and marry who they like irrespective of gender, but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

so like JKR but without the gender bit though

Ooh I thought the sweets were literally called "TERF wizard school" sweets. In which case, I would agree that calling people nasty names IS bullying.

Hopefully 10 year old daughter won’t be trotting round calling people TERFs

now that would be bullying behaviour

Whoever thinks "even a 10 year old can understand" the concept of fairness hasn't met a 5 year old.

All I see is an adult trying to indocrinate, shut down critical thought and recruit her daughter to a cult that believes that humans can miraclously change sex. 10 year old kids don't tend to challenge their parents or question why they are being taught to lie or suppress if they feel uncomfortable.

Let us be clear here; you are telling your 10 year old daughter that 'respect' demands that she gets changed in a changing room with any male who might come in and not to question it, cover up or otherwise remove herself from the situation because if she does she's a bigot who will be shunned.

And you are proud of this.

Slow handclap.

You’re not mumsnetting very well AT ALL op. Even a total noob would know to make it a purchase of plain organic rice cakes whilst stressing that they were for the treat jar due to the carb content.

wont someone think of the obesity crisis? No wonder the NHS is on its knees etc etc.

Do better.

10 yr olds believe in all sorts. Some of them still believe in Santa. It’s not hard to persuade 10yr olds,

I also hope you told them haribo are ultra processed food and basically poison in a bag, and went and bought them an apple.

Cool story Bro.

Hilarious anyone thinks this is what real life interactions with children are like. They're not mini-adults. Read up on child development and/or just read about / observe real life child behaviour before posting next time.

Also children will go along with anything for sweets hence why they need to be taught not to accept sweets from strangers.

Makes me think of this

My tactic is to recount all sorts of tall tales. Now DC's first response is "is that real?". My answer would be "what do you think?"

I know there's a theory that these obviously false stories are planted on MN to draw 'transphobic' responses that can then be tut-tutted over on Reddit, but I'm tending more towards the belief that they are posted to give us a good laugh, a chance to exercise our considerable wit in responding to them.

Ditto India W's tweet about the GC Movement 'buying' the Supreme Court, and all the funny responses - IW and the poster of this TERF wizard school stuff yarn are being what is called in the comedy business 'the straight man'😃

Before my 10 yr old DS had the Transgender PHSE lesson from Jigsaw at his school, I carefully had a little chat with him, explaining that nobody is born in the wrong body, sex is binary and immutable. Nobody can change sex whatever they do their body.
So when that lesson happened, he knew it was nonsense and wasn't brainwashed by it.

Oh dear @inkognithia.

You're trying to "be kind" your daughter into agreeing with an ideology that only more impressionable Millennials and Gen Y believe in.

Her generation has already clocked that it's absolute bullshit.

If you want to ban your daughter from eating a particular flavour of Haribo because you don't want 0.00001% of the profit on a £2 bag of sweets to go to a particular person, you do you.

But boycotting someone who has donated over £250 million and counting to various charitable causes is not the flex you seem to think it is.

“And then they all lived happily ever after.

The End.”

No, because the OP is apparently refusing to safeguard her own child.

I saw Harry Potter kinder eggs at the supermarket but not seen the Haribo so had a Google
Cute packaging 😃

Well, that backfired. I bet Haribo are loving all the free publicity!

They missed a trick there. Should have branded it "Haribo Potter".

Pull the other one mate, it have got bells on.

I was under the impression POM Bears were also acceptable as a snack...?

Only at a dinner party.

Pom bears have a king and are implicitly patriarchal. I now only buy terf wizard school sweets for all my children's snacking wants.

I have shamed myself on these boards...but perhaps I can be redeemed by my huge Zoflora collection...?