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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Even a 10 year old can understand it

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inkognithia · 19/05/2025 12:17

Thanks to Haribo, my daughter and I have had one of the important chats a little earlier than I'd expected.

Sucked in by the power of marketing, she wanted to buy sweets in the supermarket, but they were branded with TERF wizard school stuff, so I explained that we could buy sweets, but not those, and she obviously wanted to know why.

Thus we had a short chat in the supermarket about how there was a person who had created those characters who turned out to be a bully, and she would get money from anything sold that was to do with her work. Then in the car we had a longer chat about trans people in which I was very conscious that my way of explaining who they are might not be the best and I might be putting it badly, but it was better to have the talk now than not at all.

Her current stance is that she is not OK with bullies and has immediately accepted that we don't buy anything that gives them money, and she specifically says she is on the side of trans people because some of them are our friends. Which might not be the perfect motivation, but I'll take it.

Usefully, this also led to a shorter talk about how people should be allowed to love and marry who they like irrespective of gender, but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

Respect is so simple a 10 year old can grasp it.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/05/2025 14:19

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 19/05/2025 14:12

They missed a trick there. Should have branded it "Haribo Potter".

GrinWine

CassOle · 19/05/2025 14:20

I am not craving Haribo after reading this thread... no... not at all. 😭

To quote Charlton Heston - God damn you! God damn you all to Hell! 😡

RedToothBrush · 19/05/2025 14:21

Thatcannotberight · 19/05/2025 14:00

Before my 10 yr old DS had the Transgender PHSE lesson from Jigsaw at his school, I carefully had a little chat with him, explaining that nobody is born in the wrong body, sex is binary and immutable. Nobody can change sex whatever they do their body.
So when that lesson happened, he knew it was nonsense and wasn't brainwashed by it.

This is my plan

Fortunately DS has already started to realise that teachers are fallible for various reasons and we watched a hilarious documentary about flat earthers not so long ago, so he knows that some adults talk utter bollocks.

It is impossible to change sex. Transgender nonsense is homophobic - it fails to protect lesbians and forces them to accept dick. Transgender nonsense is sexist - it fails to protect women and girls and forces them to accept dicks and ignore their human rights to privacy and dignity away from males. It gaslights them into being second class service humans. And ironically transgender nonsense is transphobic - because the desire to obliterate the word sex in law renders any possible legal protection for transpeople null and void and puts their health and wellbeing at risk. It also sees transmen when they are useful and service the purposes of transwomen. Otherwise their specialist needs are invisible.

It's also a safeguarding disaster area as it encourages the unethical and unproven experimentation on children and young people and asks us to not ask questions about this.

Please. Go post that on Reddit.

RedToothBrush · 19/05/2025 14:22

Lemonz · 19/05/2025 14:13

Only at a dinner party.

Or if you are on camera at Eurovision.

Thatcannotberight · 19/05/2025 14:27

@RedToothBrush. He also put JKR at the top of a list of "Good People" in a yr 7 RE lesson, even though the idiot teacher told the class she'd made a series of "Transphobic Tweets ". He didn't change it either.

Greyskybluesky · 19/05/2025 14:27

MarieDeGournay · 19/05/2025 13:59

I know there's a theory that these obviously false stories are planted on MN to draw 'transphobic' responses that can then be tut-tutted over on Reddit, but I'm tending more towards the belief that they are posted to give us a good laugh, a chance to exercise our considerable wit in responding to them.

Ditto India W's tweet about the GC Movement 'buying' the Supreme Court, and all the funny responses - IW and the poster of this TERF wizard school stuff yarn are being what is called in the comedy business 'the straight man'😃

This ol' echo chamber is one of the sharpest, wittiest and funniest corners of MN.

It's very clear too that some ploppers visitors do not like being taken down with humour rather than vitriol, they don't know how to respond

Waitwhat23 · 19/05/2025 14:27

CassOle · 19/05/2025 14:20

I am not craving Haribo after reading this thread... no... not at all. 😭

To quote Charlton Heston - God damn you! God damn you all to Hell! 😡

Road Trip Summer GIF by HARIBO

I'm now cursing the fact there are no chewy sweeties in this house at all.

Oh hang on, there might be some ancient astro belts in the cupboard....ah ha!

Retiredfromthere · 19/05/2025 14:29

@inkognithia Perhaps you can answer the question 'why is she a bully, what did she do?' by reference to this article about JKR and all the good work she does with the money you don't want to give her (in case she will use it to bully people) https://www.thetimes.com/article/57517aad-3f54-4ad3-b868-881ae49f5935?shareToken=b73840425c6cf276f404f74f00533c55 (copying the share from @Igneococcus on another thread).

JK Rowling: ‘Nobody who hasn’t been poor can understand what it means’

The author, ranked 168 on The Sunday Times Rich List, opens up about her childhood, life on benefits and the pitfalls of philanthropy

https://www.thetimes.com/article/57517aad-3f54-4ad3-b868-881ae49f5935?shareToken=b73840425c6cf276f404f74f00533c55

RedToothBrush · 19/05/2025 14:32

Thatcannotberight · 19/05/2025 14:27

@RedToothBrush. He also put JKR at the top of a list of "Good People" in a yr 7 RE lesson, even though the idiot teacher told the class she'd made a series of "Transphobic Tweets ". He didn't change it either.

Fab. Will put that on the list. DS loves harry potter.

Thatcannotberight · 19/05/2025 14:34

RedToothBrush · 19/05/2025 14:32

Fab. Will put that on the list. DS loves harry potter.

Can also recommend The Christmas Pig and The Ickabog , if you haven't already read them.

Needspaceforlego · 19/05/2025 14:35

Snorlaxo · 19/05/2025 14:07

I saw Harry Potter kinder eggs at the supermarket but not seen the Haribo so had a Google
Cute packaging 😃

Oh dear.my diet is going to take a pounding.
Harry & Haribo a match made in heaven!!!

I'm great at ignoring expensive chocolates and Easter eggs. But my weakness is Haribo😫

RedToothBrush · 19/05/2025 14:36

Thatcannotberight · 19/05/2025 14:34

Can also recommend The Christmas Pig and The Ickabog , if you haven't already read them.

He's got the Christmas pig. He might get round to it by Christmas as he's got shedloads to read already.

CassOle · 19/05/2025 14:38

Waitwhat23 · 19/05/2025 14:27

I'm now cursing the fact there are no chewy sweeties in this house at all.

Oh hang on, there might be some ancient astro belts in the cupboard....ah ha!

I don't think I even have an ancient pack of Fruit Pastilles hiding at the back of the cupboard. 😕The distress is real!

DialSquare · 19/05/2025 14:40

Sounds like a Catherine Tate sketch.

RedToothBrush · 19/05/2025 14:40

CassOle · 19/05/2025 14:38

I don't think I even have an ancient pack of Fruit Pastilles hiding at the back of the cupboard. 😕The distress is real!

Anyone checked if you can buy Harry Potter Haribo on one hour delivery off Amazon yet?

CassOle · 19/05/2025 14:46

RedToothBrush · 19/05/2025 14:40

Anyone checked if you can buy Harry Potter Haribo on one hour delivery off Amazon yet?

If they do a tangfastic version, I may need to buy a whole box.

TangenitalContrivences · 19/05/2025 14:47

TangenitalContrivences · 19/05/2025 12:21

Don't play chess with pigeons.

stop wasting your time they came, dropped a (crap) bomb, left.

RedToothBrush · 19/05/2025 14:51

Available on Same Day or OverNight

Even a 10 year old can understand it
Beowulfa · 19/05/2025 14:54

My mum saved herself a load of time by just saying No everytime I asked for sweets. Sometimes she even said No before I'd finished the request.

Myalternate · 19/05/2025 14:57

My children know not to tell lies.
When they get to an age that they question the existence of Santa, I won’t lie.
I never lie to my children and I won’t accept anyone else telling them to pretend something to be true when it’s not.

Believing something to be true based on desire rather than reality is not the way to cope with unrealistic expectations and will lead to inevitable disappointment.

They already know that people can’t change sex.

murasaki · 19/05/2025 14:58

Beowulfa · 19/05/2025 14:54

My mum saved herself a load of time by just saying No everytime I asked for sweets. Sometimes she even said No before I'd finished the request.

I didn't know my sister was on here, hello sis!

SilenceInside · 19/05/2025 14:59

TangenitalContrivences · 19/05/2025 14:47

stop wasting your time they came, dropped a (crap) bomb, left.

What is MN if not a tool to waste time…

SilenceInside · 19/05/2025 14:59

TangenitalContrivences · 19/05/2025 14:47

stop wasting your time they came, dropped a (crap) bomb, left.

What is MN if not a tool to waste time…

DialSquare · 19/05/2025 15:01

SilenceInside · 19/05/2025 14:59

What is MN if not a tool to waste time…

I commend your commitment to wasting time by posting twice!

RedToothBrush · 19/05/2025 15:01

DialSquare · 19/05/2025 15:01

I commend your commitment to wasting time by posting twice!

Brilliant! 😂

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